View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286 Stuart Hall admits the charges!! FFS! Hopefully they will get onto the nonce politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 It's a knock out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286 Stuart Hall admits the charges!! FFS, as young as 9, what the hell is up with people? Beyond disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286 Stuart Hall admits the charges!! Is he playing his joker on this case ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upwind Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I don't fookin believe it............... Hall was/is a legend. A highly intelligent and articulate man - he'll probably be sent down for the remainder of his time on the planet............what a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286 Stuart Hall admits the charges!! How could this be? Our experts are telling us that it's impossible to prove abuse cases from years ago and that people shouldn't be coming forward about it now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 According to one news source Stuart Hall , he admitted it when he was arrested. I do agree with the likes of Bill Roache , clifford ext they should have the right to annonymity until they are found guilty. Lets look closer to home. Look at the allegations made against Dave Jones. He was cleared and several of his accusers admitted the claims were fabricated in an attempt to get compensation. What was so disgusting about this case the press were informed by the police before he was arrested and informed of the charges. I see the sun are now reporting he has been a naughty boy with a netball player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Is he playing his joker on this case ? Sounds closer to the truth than you may think. Do I detect a bit of 'plea bargaining' going on to avoid a rape charge....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Sounds closer to the truth than you may think. Do I detect a bit of 'plea bargaining' going on to avoid a rape charge....? Could be that. Could also be an old man being bullied by the police / CPS to accept a lower charge and suspended sentence otherwise be dragged through the courts for years and face prison for the rest of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 (edited) Could be that. Could also be an old man being bullied by the police / CPS to accept a lower charge and suspended sentence otherwise be dragged through the courts for years and face prison for the rest of life. So the guy admits to abusing a 9 year old girl and it's the police's fault for bullying into admitting it to get off on another offence? I don't suspect that there are many charges out there as severe as raping and abusing young girls. Edited 2 May, 2013 by Dig Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Had you asked me a couple of years ago I would have said that he was a broadcasting legend, now he's just a sad old sex offender. Betrayed his public. Disgusted. And I hope we don't hear the old, 'I didn't do anything wrong, but it's easier to plead guilty to avoid a trial' nonesense. NO ONE would confess to fiddling with a nine-year-old just to avoid a trial, if innocent you'd fight that charge to your dying day. As for his family, is it possible to drag them any deeper through a sewer of shame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 So the guy admits to abusing a 9 year old girl and it's the police's fault for bullying into admitting it to get off on another offence? I don't suspect that there are many charges out their as severe as raping and abusing young girls. Wow simple sentences appear to difficult for you to follow. Clear as I can make it. 1. Child abuse is abhorrent and if he did it then he deserves the full wrath of the law 2. Number 1 above notwithstanding people do sometimes admit to crimes they haven't done under a plea bargain because the simple prospect of being charged with something more serious and being locked up on remand for months or years is too much of a risk to take. How did I do, grasp it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 (edited) Wow simple sentences appear to difficult for you to follow. Clear as I can make it. 1. Child abuse is abhorrent and if he did it then he deserves the full wrath of the law 2. Number 1 above notwithstanding people do sometimes admit to crimes they haven't done under a plea bargain because the simple prospect of being charged with something more serious and being locked up on remand for months or years is too much of a risk to take. How did I do, grasp it? 1. He did do it Timothy, he admitted it. 2. Explain to me what other more serious crimes could you be blackmailed with above molesting a 9 year old girl? Please answer the question and also explain why you feel the need to play down his confession to serious and disgusting crimes based on a loose argument about people being forced into admitting crimes they didn't do. Simple enough for you to grasp you patronising ****? Edited 2 May, 2013 by Dig Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Wow simple sentences appear to difficult for you to follow. Clear as I can make it. 1. Child abuse is abhorrent and if he did it then he deserves the full wrath of the law 2. Number 1 above notwithstanding people do sometimes admit to crimes they haven't done under a plea bargain because the simple prospect of being charged with something more serious and being locked up on remand for months or years is too much of a risk to take. How did I do, grasp it? I think it was more the prospect of bullying. To me it sounds like a plea bargain to drop the rape charges, and as such the prison he goes to will be low security compared to the high security he'd endure if on rape charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 1. He did do it Timothy, he admitted it. 2. Explain to me what other more serious crimes could you be blackmailed with above molesting a 9 year old girl? Rape is a far more serious charge than indecent assault. hth. Im not defending Hall in anyway. What he almost certainly did is repellant and he deserves to be fully punished. I am deeply uneasy about prosecuting crimes now which took place in the 1960s or 1970s however. FWIW I found an unconscious man in Above Bar in 1980, called an ambulance and called the police. Next day I was arrested with my mate for GBH and attempted murder. After locking us up for 5 days and trying to frame us by trying to get our prints onto the guys wallet, telling me my mate had confessed and blamed me (and telling him the same thing) etc we were eventually let go if we agreed to be prosecuted for theft - a fig leaf for them to justify our wrongful arrest. I agreed because the alternative was at least six months in Winchester prison on remand before the uncertain outcome of a trial. You are exceptionally naive if you think that doesn't still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 2. Explain to me what other more serious crimes could you be blackmailed with above molesting a 9 year old girl? molesting 8 year old girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Making another forum member watch an American girldrama actually called 'girls'. That is just sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 molesting 8 year old girl. True, maybe that's what they are trying to pin on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 would you sooner be caught molesting 8 year old girl or 14 year old boy? Which is more bad? Amazing bout all these old pervs tho! BBC in 70s was clearly one big massive pedo ring! Edit: Like pst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 1975 tv times has now been renamed the sex offenders register as it will save money on printing a new version and the only change being the year of printing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I think it was more the prospect of bullying. To me it sounds like a plea bargain to drop the rape charges, and as such the prison he goes to will be low security compared to the high security he'd endure if on rape charges. Security in the sense of escape risk, maybe, but he'll need even higher security for his own safety in prison as someone who has molested a 9 year old girl, than he would need as a rapist. Hardly a lesser crime in those terms. Look out now for pleas that he is too old and frail to go to prison at all. There's no hint in his lawyer's statements of being bullied into admitting a crime or similar. Not getting at you, DPS, but I find it hard to understand why some on here appear to want to still believe he is innocent in spite of his admission to several serious offences, not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 How could this be? Our experts are telling us that it's impossible to prove abuse cases from years ago and that people shouldn't be coming forward about it now.... A totally different scenario to the other one. For a start he has admitted it and secondly it was several girls who did not know each other over a twenty year period. Ken Barlow has been accused of rape from one female 47 years ago. I would be interested to see how they can charge him on that basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 listening to his match summaries drove me crazy, what he will be like in a witness box , lord knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 He was brilliant at what he did which makes what he has done even more tragic. How horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 listening to his match summaries drove me crazy, what he will be like in a witness box , lord knows maybe there is something in his technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 He was brilliant at what he did which makes what he has done even more tragic. How horrible. Sorry to be pedantic (actually, thats a lie, I'm not sorry...), but how does that make it anymore tragic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Sorry to be pedantic (actually, thats a lie, I'm not sorry...), but how does that make it anymore tragic? Because he has thrown all of that away and the pleasure he brought so many will now forever be tainted by what he has done. Plus he will now quite rightly no longer be able to commentate on games when I thought he was excellent and as someone else said earlier a legend. Even intelligent people can be complete evil idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Sorry to be pedantic (actually, thats a lie, I'm not sorry...), but how does that make it anymore tragic? Also well done for trying to make it look like I was defending his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Also well done for trying to make it look like I was defending his actions. I absolutely was not trying to do that at all... Apologies (and I actually mean it this time) if that is how my post came across. I merely was interested to know how the quality of his work made any difference to how bad his actions were. Would it be less tragic if it was a no hoper? I (personally) think not. Anyways, thats my 3 posts for the day used up. If only I could scrape a fiver together, then I'd be in for some top notch debating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I absolutely was not trying to do that at all... Apologies (and I actually mean it this time) if that is how my post came across. I merely was interested to know how the quality of his work made any difference to how bad his actions were. Would it be less tragic if it was a no hoper? I (personally) think not. Anyways, thats my 3 posts for the day used up. If only I could scrape a fiver together, then I'd be in for some top notch debating... I said it is more tragic because not only are his actions abhorrent but it is a loss of a decent commentator (entirely self inflicted of course) and taints all of his previous work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 i've never like stuart hall, his match reports is like shakespeare - they sounds well enough but don't actually mean anything. I bet his dirty talk is hilarious tho! "A millenia has passed since venerable druids toiled to construct the ancient temples of stonehenge, and verily now the world has an eigth wonder, such a fantastic erection of rock and stone as is carried in my pants like a serpent drawn to ancient Eve's. And thou shalt feel the fury of gods as i come across you like the sun striding through the carpathian mountains. Feel the thunder of my biblical erections explode in your nethers! Do Prado misses open goal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Are you condoning peodophillia there Bearsy? I think you are. And Shakespeare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 on contrary i think pedos is quite bad. There should be law against it! on other hand i done a 15 years old when i was 15 years old. I also feel quite bad for pedos in that it's pretty unlucky to be a pedo, i mean you can't really help what gives you boner. It's like you & sumo wrestlers, you'd probably prefer it if they didn't give you boner but what you gonna do? They shouldn't be molesting tho, they should just look at pictures on internet. Or kill self. Edit - it was mate of mine who done 15 years olds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 No jokes, 2 people from my year group have done time for peodo stuff and another for boning a 15 year old. That last one doesn't count so much as he was 17 at the time and didn't do time, just got in loads of trouble. 2 are certified peodos though. Statistically speaking though, that is high isn't it? That's about 1 in 50. I actually saw one of them at a saints match recently. I don't want to incite any hate mobs but he was selling something saints related outside/on the way to the ground. He wasn't a fiddler though, he had loads of child porn on his computer. This ain't liable either mods, it was in the news and everything. I won't post anything but can pm news links if you think you might get in trouble. You are allowed to say someone is a peodo if they are actually a peodo - even the judge said he was a peodo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 1 in 50 ffs! I had no idea it was so common! That means there is 177.5 pedos posting on here, prob most in motoring forum. i think you should out this pedo tho tokyos. if i had a son i wouldn't want to take my son to saints game and find street vendor measuring him up for saints underpants or whatever. Just post news link yo, i don't see any problem with posting news link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 i've been doing googles but there is fucking hundreds of southampton pedos! Is like needle in haystack! Some of them is real bad ones like this one dude who was keeping a harem of kidnapped under 10s in his southampton flat + force feeding them amphetamines and viagras! in other news i now have "southampton child porn" in my internet search histories yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 i've been doing googles but there is fucking hundreds of southampton pedos! Is like needle in haystack! Some of them is real bad ones like this one dude who was keeping a harem of kidnapped under 10s in his southampton flat + force feeding them amphetamines and viagras! in other news i now have "southampton child porn" in my internet search histories yo!bearsy you are by far the most amusing poster on the Internet, I don't understand why Lenny Henry is on the tv all the time when your real talent is wasted on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 someone help - i think Oldnick is trying to groom me yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 someone help - i think Oldnick is trying to groom me yo! You're not my type, I like a c### but it has to be part of a beautiful lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I'll pm you some info later bear. I don't want some VFTT or whoever starting a lynch mob. I guess the police know what they are doing with letting him out and stuff. I actually hated him at school, not cause he was a peodo as at the time most of us fancied under age girls but cause he was a bit of a knob. He was a geek but had this kind of MLG way about him, he was a bit smug and thought he was better than everyone. He was well into religion as well. He used to have a season ticket - bet he posts on here somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 You're not my type, I like a c### but it has to be part of a beautiful lady Lady boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I'll pm you some info later bear. I don't want some VFTT or whoever starting a lynch mob. I guess the police know what they are doing with letting him out and stuff. I actually hated him at school, not cause he was a peodo as at the time most of us fancied under age girls but cause he was a bit of a knob. He was a geek but had this kind of MLG way about him, he was a bit smug and thought he was better than everyone. He was well into religion as well. He used to have a season ticket - bet he posts on here somewhere. I think he has even posted on this very thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Lol - strangely his initials are SB. My origional nemesis on here is SB... I ain't saying anything but 2+2 has never lied before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Lady boy? Having battled with OldNick at SMS I kinda get the feeling he'd only be a post-op man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 Lady boy? Yes what do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 Having battled with OldNick at SMS I kinda get the feeling he'd only be a post-op manim not sure if that is a good or bad thing!! I would like to make clear that the beautiful woman would have to been born with the said utensil and not had it as an App later in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 interesting debate going on. Are there not different levels of abuse?. The most abhorrent is young boys and girls under 12 or what ever. Clearly those who are predators on young kids need to be strung up. What about the young 16 year old who ****s hs 15 year old girlfriend, The police put them on the sex register and they are labeled Peados. What about those children who were abused by parents and so traumatised they dont know any difference. Bit like children who get smacked when they are young for soiling themselves, and then when the parent suffers dementia and soils themselves they get beaten by the child. Asthey repilcate they behaviour they experiences. All I know is the likes of glitter, hall and saville should have been executed. They are real evil people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 May, 2013 Share Posted 6 May, 2013 73 year old man arrested for child sex abuse. Papers saying it is Jimmy Tarbuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 May, 2013 Share Posted 7 May, 2013 73 year old man arrested for child sex abuse. Papers saying it is Jimmy Tarbuck. At this rate UK Gold will have nothing to broadcast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 8 May, 2013 Share Posted 8 May, 2013 73 year old man arrested for child sex abuse. Papers saying it is Jimmy Tarbuck. I think it could be a real household name, not the world's un-funniest scouse comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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