pap Posted 7 December, 2012 Posted 7 December, 2012 Hmm. Then what we need is someone to adjudicate on our respective, non-conspiracy theories hutch. Where's pap? Right here. First, I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am amazed that Steve Messham claims it was mistaken identity and find it almost inconceivable that the BBC didn't triple-check that (if not more). Then I consider the fact that the mistaken identity (or more generally, the person making the allegations admits they are all a load of sh!t) revelation is literally the /only/ way that an alleged perpetrator could walk away from such allegations unblemished. As long as we're keeping our hats metallic and reflective, may as well consider a couple of other names that have been thrown into the mix. Can't really think of a bigger conduit of rumour, gossip and secrets than Max Clifford. Perfectly conceivable that he knows enough to blow the lid off things, but it doesn't matter now; his name is in the mud. My suspicion is that this is all a bit of public bloodletting to disguise the greater ongoing injury to society.
JackanorySFC Posted 7 December, 2012 Posted 7 December, 2012 And I must admit that I'm not usually given to conspiracy theories... but I think a global media empire that has taken a very public hammering recently over "hacking" has seen an opportunity to create an alternative national scandal to attack a rival media empire and divert attention. I know there have been one or two serious allegations, but generally I don't think that the fact that grown men were having sex with 17 year old girls 40-odd years ago is news. Afraid not, unfortunately News Int/ Corp aren't all powerful. The fact people think so massively overestimates their power/ reach. If they were to engineer whatever it is you are suggesting there are some incredibly talented jounos at the Guardian, DT, Indy (not to mention the BBC) etc that would absolutely love to expose such manipulation and wouldn't hesitate to do so. There are also plenty of whistleblowers now at NI that don't want a repeat of the NotW scandal - trust me it hurt at the time. We are lucky enough to have more national newspapers per capita than any other nation on earth, we have a thirst for news and people have a choice, they can buy what they want. I wouldn't worry too much about them, I worked there for 9 years and didn't see a single ritual sacrifice in that time at all....
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 7 December, 2012 Posted 7 December, 2012 Right here. First, I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am amazed that Steve Messham claims it was mistaken identity and find it almost inconceivable that the BBC didn't triple-check that (if not more). Then I consider the fact that the mistaken identity (or more generally, the person making the allegations admits they are all a load of sh!t) revelation is literally the /only/ way that an alleged perpetrator could walk away from such allegations unblemished. As long as we're keeping our hats metallic and reflective, may as well consider a couple of other names that have been thrown into the mix. Can't really think of a bigger conduit of rumour, gossip and secrets than Max Clifford. Perfectly conceivable that he knows enough to blow the lid off things, but it doesn't matter now; his name is in the mud. My suspicion is that this is all a bit of public bloodletting to disguise the greater ongoing injury to society. I see Max every week without fail, although I guess that will change this week! If anyone can get his name out of the mud though, it's him.
dubai_phil Posted 9 December, 2012 Posted 9 December, 2012 More to come by the looks of it Police are investigating claims against 25 celebrities of alleged sex offences in connection with the Jimmy Savile inquiry. At least six of the high-profile figures are expected to be arrested this month and in the new year. The 25, reportedly mostly television and radio entertainers, are named in a list of tip-offs to Operation Yewtree - the police inquiry set up after late Top Of The Pops presenter Savile was exposed as a serial abuser. A source with knowledge of the inquiry told the Sunday Times: 'They all end to be white men of the Savile generation'. In some cases victims will not be identified or press charges. But in at least a dozen cases, police are reported to believe there is enough evidence for the celebrities to be detained. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245375/Jimmy-Savile-police-Detectives-investigate-sex-offence-claims-25-celebrities-expect-arrest-weeks.html#ixzz2EYVyutLH Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Hatch Posted 10 December, 2012 Posted 10 December, 2012 any rumours on todays arrest, is it another household name?
andysstuff Posted 10 December, 2012 Posted 10 December, 2012 any rumours on todays arrest, is it another household name? Brummie singer of a rather famous Xmas No 1 was the rumour on Twitter
gaz Posted 11 December, 2012 Posted 11 December, 2012 Two separate people have now said to me its Dirty Den. Edit - see above, that makes three.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 December, 2012 Posted 11 December, 2012 Brummie singer of a rather famous Xmas No 1 was the rumour on Twitter Johnny Mathis??!
tpbury Posted 11 December, 2012 Posted 11 December, 2012 Brummie singer of a rather famous Xmas No 1 was the rumour on Twitter This is a sound bloke, but I am sure he would have ****ged girls 30/40/50 years ago. Have to define 'girl'. Have to understand the change of women's 'emancipation' in the 60's compared to recalcitrant blokes' attitudes. The 60's are often presented as a massive social change, my opinion is that perhaps 20% of the youth were acting 'differently'to before. If you were 16 in 1963, you would be 65 now - I'm sure there are plenty of 65 year old swingers and deviants, but most of the 65 year olds I see are exactly like regular 'old biddies'
Viking Warrior Posted 12 December, 2012 Posted 12 December, 2012 Meanwhile, police have set up Operation Fairbank to investigate allegations by Labour MP Tom Watson of a paedophile ring in high places. Mr Watson said in October that police should investigate claims of a "powerful paedophile ring" linked to a previous prime minister's "senior adviser" and Parliament.
gaz Posted 21 December, 2012 Posted 21 December, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/21/fred-talbot-home-raided-claims-sexual-abuse_n_2343147.html?icid=maing-grid7|uk|dl1|sec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D142676
Nadia Sllim Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/21/fred-talbot-home-raided-claims-sexual-abuse_n_2343147.html?icid=maing-grid7|uk|dl1|sec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D142676 This is a bloke who talks about the son (sorry sun) going down and little spurts!
carljack Posted 22 December, 2012 Posted 22 December, 2012 Susan boyle went on Jim,ll fix it when she was 15yrs old and she swears Jimmy never touched her!
dubai_phil Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254837/Former-childrens-TV-presenter-arrested-Savile-sex-probe-detectives-spends-Christmas-psychiatric-clinic.html hmmm
Crab Lungs Posted 30 December, 2012 Posted 30 December, 2012 Two separate people have now said to me its Dirty Den. Edit - see above, that makes three. nothing seedy to see here;
hypochondriac Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Related to this? http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/australian-star-gutted-by-sex-claims-friends-say/story-e6freon6-1226528150895
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Susan boyle went on Jim,ll fix it when she was 15yrs old and she swears Jimmy never touched her! Let's face it, who'd want to fix her.
hypochondriac Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Hmm. In his 80s, Australian entertainer and old children's tv presenter. Lives in West London.
bridge too far Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Hmm. In his 80s, Australian entertainer and old children's tv presenter. Lives in West London. Lives west OF London - Bray / Taplow area IIRC
scotty Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Hmm. In his 80s, Australian entertainer and old children's tv presenter. Lives in West London. I hope the police don't accuse him of doing two little boys, back in the day.
Lets B Avenue Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 I hope the police don't accuse him of doing two little boys, back in the day. Can you see who it is yet?
scotty Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Can you see who it is yet? Easily identifiable by his extra leg.....
Berkshire Saint Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Lives west OF London - Bray / Taplow area IIRC Bray. Knocked on his door when I worked for the Census last year!
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2012 Posted 31 December, 2012 Bray. Knocked on his door when I worked for the Census last year! did you call on the Vicar as well ?
trousers Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 BBC News (UK) @BBCNews Arrests made in London & Hampshire by police investigating alleged sex offences in wake of Jimmy #Savile scandal http://bbc.in/133St3F Two men in their 50s have been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences, the Metropolitan Police have said. Officers from Operation Yewtree - set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal - arrested one man, aged 53, at an address in Hampshire. The second man, aged 59, was arrested in west London at and taken into custody at a London police station.
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I see a name is trending on Twitter right now Apparently Celebrity Big Brother are going to be a man down At least if he gets bailed the rozzers wouldn't have a hard job keeping tabs on him
hypochondriac Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Apparently Celebrity Big Brother are going to be a man down At least if he gets bailed the rozzers wouldn't have a hard job keeping tabs on him Where do we see what is trending?
bridge too far Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Where do we see what is trending? I can see the reference to the '59 year old Londonder' but I wonder who the Hampshire 53 year old 'celebrity' is
Window Cleaner Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Ray Lewis.? american football player, calling it a day at the end of this season
trousers Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 @TheSunNewspaper: Veteran comic Jim Davidson has been arrested by cops probing the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal http://t.co/T9Ur8y7e
manji Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Read further down theres a local "celebrity" involved as well.
St Chalet Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Read further down theres a local "celebrity" involved as well. Hmm I think I know who it might be.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Hmm I think I know who it might be. So, tell us
alehouseboys Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 So, tell us I would think many may have worked it out by now, his age, associations with JD...but as it's 'manji' that has broken the silence it shouldn't be too hard for others to work out who is suggested.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 Ah right, thought he was supposed to be a bit of a good bloke.
St Chalet Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 All, please don't name names or drop hints of people on this forum. if you want to commit potential libel please do it elsewhere.
manji Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I would think many may have worked it out by now, his age, associations with JD...but as it's 'manji' that has broken the silence it shouldn't be too hard for others to work out who is suggested. I didnt break it. Its on the Daily Echo site.
View From The Top Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I didnt break it. Its on the Daily Echo site. What is??
Hatch Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 I would think many may have worked it out by now, his age, associations with JD...but as it's 'manji' that has broken the silence it shouldn't be too hard for others to work out who is suggested. too hard for me though. Who is it?
bridge too far Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 But JD is the hampshire man surely. Yes, yes he is but he's the 59 year old referred to in the reports. However, a 53 year old Hampshire man has ALSO been arrested.
Kingsland Nick Posted 2 January, 2013 Posted 2 January, 2013 All, please don't name names or drop hints of people on this forum. if you want to commit potential libel please do it elsewhere. A bit late - a post linking him to the Savile scandal has been on this forum since 15 October.
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