CWD Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 What are our opinions chaps? Especially looking forward to those who saw him play tonight. Honestly, having seen him play a few full games now, he just isn't very good IMO, and it sounded like another toothless performance from him this evening.
Colinjb Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 He was brought in as back up, and remains so.
beatlesaint Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 What are our opinions chaps? Especially looking forward to those who saw him play tonight. Honestly, having seen him play a few full games now, he just isn't very good IMO, and it sounded like another toothless performance from him this evening. Having seen him play every time he has turned out at St Marys with the exception of the 2 goal heroics against MK Dons last season he hasnt exactly set the world alight, Played as a striker he looks pretty poor, played as a winger he looks average. Would probably have been ok had we stayed in Div. 1 but just not up to The Championship IMHO. Could be a good one to loan out for a month or two to someone like Bournemouth and see how he gets on with a run of games under his belt.
CWD Posted 25 October, 2011 Author Posted 25 October, 2011 He was brought in as back up, and remains so. If that is the case then I'd be very disappointed. No player should be brought in unless they are going to improve the squad and put pressure on the first team. I was under the impression that he was signed to provide the pace that we lacked in the side. I wasn't one of the people who wrote him off before he had kicked a ball in anger, but I feel now that he has had the chance to impress and has not done so.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 You could say his goals turning around the MK Dons game justified his fee alone!
smithy Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 He was ok for us last year, we need better now.
S-Clarke Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 I think we've had our moneys worth from him, the goals v MK Dons. I think he'll drift away now, I don't think he's taken his chances at all when he's had them this year. Certainly no where near good enough for a decent championship team.
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 You could say his goals turning around the MK Dons game justified his fee alone! These are my feelings to. He was worth a punt, but maybe not another one.
TopGun Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 He was brought in as back up, and remains so. Spot on. Expect to see him in the first FA Cup game if we draw a tiddler. After that, I'm sure he will be released in the summer. Nige has offered him a chance and that's about it.
Badger Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 You could say his goals turning around the MK Dons game justified his fee alone! Ditto. But beyond that, he is just a back up and now we can forget about the Carling Cup I expect his first team appearances will be a thing of the past.
Colinjb Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 He is awful. Yet even if he never gets near the first team again he will always be a cult figure due to that game v the Franchise. Tommy Forecast must be wishing he had managed a similar chance....
Saint Garrett Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Thought it was odd when we signed him permanently and stuck him on a 3 year contract. Adds something different but isn't good enough from what I have seen.
Colinjb Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Thought it was odd when we signed him permanently and stuck him on a 3 year contract. Adds something different but isn't good enough from what I have seen. He was a bolt from the blue. At least he managed to make a contribution though. It would be interesting to know how much his contract was worth.... and compare that the financial benefit from promotion last year. (Yes, a simplistic way to find his worth, but emotionally that is what he gave us.)
channonball Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Thanks for mk, but sadly I'd prefer to never see him again in the first team. The kids completely outshone him tonight.
Saint_Jimbo83 Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Needs more playing time for a league 1 side. He's not good enough.
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Name a better fifth choice striker in this league, and i'll agree he should be sold.
channonball Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Why? Better off having kids as options 5 & 6. He scored his goals but unfortunately he isn't good enough for this level. We all know he will drift down the leagues and will be playing non league in 3 or 4 years at best.
JRM Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 He really was dreadful tonight and I'm afraid I hope we don't see him in a saints shirt again. For the first 60 mins we might as well have been playing with no one up front tonight. Young Reeves didn't get a look in at all.
SuperMikey Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Name a better fifth choice striker in this league, and i'll agree he should be sold. Freddie Sears
CWD Posted 25 October, 2011 Author Posted 25 October, 2011 Name a better fifth choice striker in this league, and i'll agree he should be sold. Ben Reeves and Jake Sinclair?
Saint_lambden Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Wasn't there tonight but I think he needs someone to play off i.e Lambert/Guly like at Swindon. Very clumsy player though, kinda like Darren Bent without the goals.
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Freddie Sears Very overrated, i'd put him on the same level as Forte in all honesty. Had a full season in this league with Palace and did nothing.
LostBoys Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 I do not like writing players off but he needs games and is not going to get them with us and so needs to be loaned out.
SuperMikey Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 Very overrated, i'd put him on the same level as Forte in all honesty. Had a full season in this league with Palace and did nothing. I think he was decent enough for West Ham when he was playing in the Prem, every player has a bad season every now and then. Wouldn't mind signing him tbh. Certainly better than Forte, got more in his locker.
The Cat Posted 25 October, 2011 Posted 25 October, 2011 He was dreadful tonight. Is he even a striker though? I thought he was mainly a winger. Whatever he is though he ain't very good at much except running quite fast.
AussieDog Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 I think DeRidder has taken his place as an impact player with pace (although I was hoping DeRidder might have been good enough for a starting place, but the jury is still out for that, as far as I am concerned). I will be very surprised if Forte doesn't go out on loan shortly.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 I do not like writing players off but he needs games and is not going to get them with us and so needs to be loaned out. This.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Got back go the pub after the game last night and started chatting to a couple of Palace fans. To my astonishment one of them's first comment was that he thought Forte looked a threat up front. I paused for thought, considering perhaps that I was putting a negative slant on his performance due to preconceptions about his (in)ability. However, after a moment's thought, I concluded that the Palace fan was an idiot who knew nothing about football and wasn't watching the game properly. Forte was, unfortunately, abysmal, and I don't think it was a case of him needing match practice. I honestly think if Barnard or Lambert had started in his place, we would have won the game.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 As long as he's got a hole in his arse he will never be a footballer. Good at running and muscling people, but the ball bounces off him, awful control and shooting was appalling. Sell/Loan him out.
Gemmel Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 I watched Forte in the match against Preston. He had a poor game, but it did highlight the difference of playing a striker with pace and how we can change our shape and the different options that would give us and it is the one big thing we are missing. Reading is the only team that has worked us out this season, as others follow, we will need to change things around and I just don't think forte is the man for that
mancsaint Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 From what I saw last night he has nothing to offer, no first touch, no passing ability and turned like a 250,000t tanker.
fanimal Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Missed our best chance with a clear header in the 2nd half, didnt even get it on target. to be fair to the lad he looked rusty, needs games and he worked very hard on his own up front as we played 4-5-1 most of the time hence the dominance not 4-4-1-1 or even 442 or 433 . As it was a cup game with confidence and 2.5K following we should have played 433 and just gone for it imo!
jayrivers Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 He was dreadful tonight. Is he even a striker though? I thought he was mainly a winger. Whatever he is though he ain't very good at much except running quite fast. After seeing him at Palace I thought that we should have pushed him out on the wing and put De Ridder up front. Forte was playing in the Lambert position, but lacked the touch and wasn't very good at challenging. So the balls that Lambert would be able to hold up and play onto the other striker were missing. At least De Ridder has a solid touch and skill so could of held up the ball and played people in.
Bucks Saint Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Never again for us. Not a championship player, never mind in a promotion chasing team. League 1 may even be a stretch
MerceSaint28 Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 My only fault with Adkins was giving him a 3 year deal...Forte is never going to be good enough if we have aspirations to get to the Premier League... i think he is a League 1 player...or at best lower champ player. I watched him last night and he was poor...we are obviously looking for a striker and im sure come January we will get one, so would not be surprised to see him loaned out.
Turkish Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 He is class. He has the best goal scoring record of any of our players. With his lightening pace and incredible strength he is always going to be a threat at any level. He just needs time and a bit of confidence. The guy is an incredible talent and with a bit of belief he could be world class.
stevegrant Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 You could say his goals turning around the MK Dons game justified his fee alone! Definitely. Not good enough to get in the squad now, but those two goals alone mean he's been money well spent. It was the turnaround in that game that gave the team the belief that we could keep up with and overtake Huddersfield last season.
buctootim Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 I thought in the BBC interview Adkins hinted he would ship Forte out in the January window.
um pahars Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 One of the repercussions of being successful in the lower leagues in that squad players you pick up at a lower level are quickly out of their depth when you are successful!! An ok buy at the time, two very important goals and worth trying out last night, but relegate him to sixth choice and loan or sell in January.
VectisSaint Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Name a better fifth choice striker in this league, and i'll agree he should be sold. Tell me who the 5th choice strikers are in each Championship team and I will then reply with a list of 23 5th choice strikers who are better than Forte. He is not and never will be a striker who is competent enough to play above League 1 or 2, it doesn't matter if he is 5th choice or not, he is not really capable of stepping in if needed, would be better off making Doble or Reeves 5th choice because at least they have the capabilit yof improving and one day being Pl or NPC level capable.
Window Cleaner Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 No-one would actually give us money for him and we'd probably have to pay most of his salary in the event of any loan. This must have been some sort of pay-off arrangement with S****horpe,perhaps they get to pay less tax or something that way.
Super_Uwe Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Got back go the pub after the game last night and started chatting to a couple of Palace fans. To my astonishment one of them's first comment was that he thought Forte looked a threat up front. I paused for thought' date=' considering perhaps that I was putting a negative slant on his performance due to preconceptions about his (in)ability. However, after a moment's thought, I concluded that the Palace fan was an idiot who knew nothing about football and wasn't watching the game properly. Forte was, unfortunately, abysmal, and I don't think it was a case of him needing match practice. I honestly think if Barnard or Lambert had started in his place, we would have won the game.[/quote'] Funnily enough I was listening to Five Live last night, and when they cut to Selhurst Park the reporter said that Forte looked the most dangerous player on the park (in the first half anyway). Not being at the game I can't add much more than that, but interesting to know how different peoples views can be sometimes.
Window Cleaner Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Tell me who the 5th choice strikers are in each Championship team and I will then reply with a list of 23 5th choice strikers who are better than Forte. He is not and never will be a striker who is competent enough to play above League 1 or 2, it doesn't matter if he is 5th choice or not, he is not really capable of stepping in if needed, would be better off making Doble or Reeves 5th choice because at least they have the capabilit yof improving and one day being Pl or NPC level capable. Do we actually have a 4th choice striker though?? Rickie,Barney,Connolly.....where's the 4th, if we had one surely he should be shouldering his part of the workload in league games. Guly is playing in midfield most of the time and De Ridder seems to be a direct replacement for him at sub time.
Chez Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 He's not as bad as some like to make out, but I don't understand why we signed him on a 3 year deal. He was a Scunny reject. They were rock bottom of the league and he couldn't get near the first team. Very strange signing. Why didn't we just loan him?
JonnyLove Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 He's not as bad as some like to make out, but I don't understand why we signed him on a 3 year deal. He was a Scunny reject. They were rock bottom of the league and he couldn't get near the first team. Very strange signing. Why didn't we just loan him? Possibly because scunny didn't want to send him on loan.
Saint_clark Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Do we actually have a 4th choice striker though?? Rickie,Barney,Connolly.....where's the 4th, if we had one surely he should be shouldering his part of the workload in league games. Guly is playing in midfield most of the time and De Ridder seems to be a direct replacement for him at sub time. Guly is fourth choice, as in if two of the first three are needed he will play up front and the midfield will shift around.
This Charming Man Posted 26 October, 2011 Posted 26 October, 2011 Forte is a truly terrible footballer. You just need to watch him for 10 minutes and you can see he's not up to it. His control is poor His positional sense is terrible Offside half the time Can't finish to save his life I genuinely believe he did more harm than good last night. We would've been better off with 10 men. The sooner we get rid, the better.
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