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Full team please.

 

Davis, Richardson, Fonte, Jos, Fox, Guly, Deano, Cork, Chaplow, Lambert, Connolly. Subs: Bart, Martin, Morgan, Lallana, De Ridder.

 

THIS is the game that matters - a six point gap or seperated by goal difference - that is a MASSIVE incentive to win this match. Fingers crossed Lallana is ready to have a cameo in this one.

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Heavy defeat due. This will be the beginning of the slide everyone, remember 17th or thereabouts s where where will finish.

 

You're getting pretty embarrassing. I'm cringing for you as it's so obvious as to what you're trying to do. You're not good at it.

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indeed

kelvin

richardson

fonte

jos

fox

hammond

morgan

chappers

lallana

guly

lambert

connolly

 

all rested for this one.....should be fresh and fit for the game

 

sooner or later we are going to drop points/lose at home..hope it is not this one

 

12 players ??? I think we can win with the same amount as them ;)

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Who drops out of Chaplow, Hammond, Morgan and Cork in that case? If we had 7 spaces then it would already be happening IMO, but impossible with just 5.

 

Agree that it's somewhat of a dilema.....but....If we're gonna give youngsters a chance in League Cup games then there ought to be a reward at the end of it otheriwse why bother? Either Ward-Prowse is good enough to compete for a first team place or he's not, regardless of who's in the queue before him.

 

To flip the question on it's head.....who would we be leaving out of the match-day squad if Chamberlain had stayed in the summer....? It's all relative....

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Agree that it's somewhat of a dilema.....but....If we're gonna give youngsters a chance in League Cup games then there ought to be a reward at the end of it otheriwse why bother? Either Ward-Prowse is good enough to compete for a first team place or he's not, regardless of who's in the queue before him.

 

To flip the question on it's head.....who would we be leaving out of the match-day squad if Chamberlain had stayed in the summer....? It's all relative....

 

Bit of a difference there. Chamberlain is good enough to start in the Prem, let alone the NPC. Ward-Prowse may well be good enough to compete for a first team place, but he didn't do enough to oust one of the four CMs who have been very good so far this season.

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Bit of a difference there. Chamberlain is good enough to start in the Prem, let alone the NPC. Ward-Prowse may well be good enough to compete for a first team place, but he didn't do enough to oust one of the four CMs who have been very good so far this season.

 

Yes, I know there's a difference between Chamberlain's current level and that of Wrad-Prowse. But you would still have to choose someone to leave out if Chamberlain was still here. I know Ward-Prowse is probably not quite up to the skill levels of those that curently occupy the 1st team midfield berths but either he's good enough to compete for a place or he isn't.

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------------------DAVIS------------------

FRAZER-----FONTE-----HOOIVELD-----FOX

GULY----HAMMOND-----CORK-----LALLANA (if fit)

----------LAMBERT-----CONNOLLY--------

 

Subs: Bart, Martin, Schneiderlin, Chaplow, De Ridder

 

Throw AL straight in if he's fit imo, he's key to our attacking style and we need a good first 45 minutes in this game to build up confidence and get SMS rocking. Get him off on the hour for De Ridder if he's struggling. I think this is a key game for us, a few frustrating results could lead us into a downward spiral like Leeds had in 09/10. We can't peak too early! If Barnard is fit I would love to see him on the bench, but it's hard to leave any of the midfield and attacking options we've got on the bench out at the moment. It sounded like Schneiderlin had a great game tonight, Chaplow has been our best player over the last few weeks and De Ridder is a fantastic impact player.

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My guess would be no CB on the bench (otherwise why play "stopper" Cork there last night?) due to the 5 limit, with Cork dropping back if one gets injured. That makes room on the bench for either Connolly or Barnard (whichever one doesn't start) along with Bart, Morgan, Chaplow (or Lallana if Chaplow starts) and de Ridder.

 

I'd like to se us start with:

 

Davis

Richardson

Fonte

Hooiveld

Fox

Guly

Cork

Hammond

Lallana

Lambert

Barnard

 

with

 

Bart

Morgan

Chaplow

de Ridder

Connolly

 

on the bench, and make the tactical changes after 60 as usual. A lot of options on that bench.

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As I've said before, Boro have been playing the 3-5-2 system this season.

 

That system plays well against sides that play a fixed 4-4-2 system (each player playing in their own little box).

It's strengths are the 3 centre halves, in that 2 will man mark the 2 forwards and the 3 in central midfield outnumbering the 2 from a 4-4-2 system.

It's weaknesses are the area behind the fullbacks, the 4-4-2 side should be looking to make runs behind the fullbacks so that the 3-5-2 becomes 5-3-2.

 

I expect Nigel will know how to break it down, he may well play a "diamond" in midfield or even a "Xmas Tree" (4-3-2-1) at some stage in the game.

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saw Boro play against palace when they won 1-0. They are a limited team - totally the opposite to Saints. Solid at the back and a very negative midfield (lots of sideways passing - like watching M. Emnes up front has a lot of energy and is always in the game. Our greatest problem will be struggling to break them down, and them nicking a goal or two!!!!

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Reckon it'll be

 

KD

 

Frazier Jose Jos Fox

 

Guly Chaplow Deano Lallana

 

DC Lambert

 

Think Morgan had a very good game last night; and is knocking at the door. And who, after the first few games, would have thought that Cork would be nothing less than an automatic starter. IF Adam doesn't start, can see Morgan getting the nod over Cork. If Jose doesn't start, wouldnt mind giving Cork a go over Martin.

 

Dont buy the line that because Schteve started last night, he was going to start Saturday. He's got plenty in the tank and can easily cope with a run of games. He won't start because he was poor.

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Can't see Lallana being fit enough to make the starting 11, would be good to have him on the bench in the 2nd half to bring on to get him some match sharpness back and then start him next Tuesday against posh.

 

Davis

Richardson - Fonte (if fit, if not Martin) - Hooiveld - Fox

Guly - Hammond -Schneiderlin - Chaplow

Lambert - Connolly

 

Subs: Bart, Martin, Cork, De Ridder, Lallana

 

The 5 subs rule is very annoying, as I'd also have Harding and Barnard on the bench if it was still 7.

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I wonder if Nige has used Lallana's injury to also rest him as by his usual high standards his form had in my opinion dipped slightly in the couple of games before he got injured. Hopefully come saturday he will be fit and fresh and ready to be unleashed. I Guly will start ahead of SDR. Guly seems to be far more effective at SMS for some reason where as SDR is much more effective coming off the bench.

 

I also think he may play Martin and Hooiveld as Fonte will be "injured". Fonte could do with a rest and adkins may want to ensure he does not become complacent as his form has been indifferent this season.

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I wonder if Nige has used Lallana's injury to also rest him as by his usual high standards his form had in my opinion dipped slightly in the couple of games before he got injured. Hopefully come saturday he will be fit and fresh and ready to be unleashed. I Guly will start ahead of SDR. Guly seems to be far more effective at SMS for some reason where as SDR is much more effective coming off the bench.

 

I also think he may play Martin and Hooiveld as Fonte will be "injured". Fonte could do with a rest and adkins may want to ensure he does not become complacent as his form has been indifferent this season.

 

I doubt it, i think you're trying to make a story out of something which clearly isn't there.

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saw Boro play against palace when they won 1-0. They are a limited team - totally the opposite to Saints. Solid at the back and a very negative midfield (lots of sideways passing - like watching M. Emnes up front has a lot of energy and is always in the game. Our greatest problem will be struggling to break them down, and them nicking a goal or two!!!!

 

Boro score very few goals and concede even fewer,we'll need something extra at the sharp end to overcome them.

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Not trying to make up a story just giving an alternative view, after all it is a forum.

 

Definition of a forum = A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

 

Thanks for that, you're still wrong.

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I think if Lallana was only being rested, he'd already have been back, at least on the bench. Also, we'd have probably done it before this run of tough games we're going through, instead of when we need him most.

 

With only 5 spots on the bench, I wouldn't put a sub keeper on there, at least for league games.

 

Teams can go entire seasons without using one, and the lack of one would negatively affect one game every few seasons, while not necessarily costing anything (BWP super rush goalie keeping a clean sheet while he was on springs to mind). Meanwhile, the extra option off the bench could potentially positively affect several games a season, especially with Adkins' record of making game changing subs.

 

This would leave us in effect with only 1 less sub than we had last year, with the slight risk of a goalkeeper injury losing us a game.

 

Obviously it'd be different in cup games, where knockout rules apply and you only get one chance, or if the keeper is prone to injury, but I believe having an outfield player on the bench instead of a sub keeper would win more points than it'd lose over a season of league games. (Especially as some of those points could come a few seasons later from being able to have given a youth player the chance to get a few appearances)

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This game must be won !

 

After a relentless pro saints propaganda campaign the length and intensity of which would have made even Dr Goebbels blush, I've finally managed to persuade the MUFC supporting parents of my much loved Godson to allow me to take the little chap to his first ever football match on Saturday. Such has been the success of my shameless efforts that this gullible five year old is now convinced that Ricky Lambert is the worlds finest striker (his status nears that of a demi-God) and that SFC is without doubt the biggest, best and most successful football club in existence.

 

So I hope you can all understand that this result is of particular importance to me - indeed, anything less than a convincing victory and there be hell to pay!

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saw Boro play against palace when they won 1-0. They are a limited team - totally the opposite to Saints. Solid at the back and a very negative midfield (lots of sideways passing - like watching M. Emnes up front has a lot of energy and is always in the game. Our greatest problem will be struggling to break them down, and them nicking a goal or two!!!!

 

I think (can't be rsed to look it up now) Boro have the best away record in the league and excluding last weeks cock up at Forest had only let in 1 goal in 5 games ... this will be a battle of attrition and patience will be a major factor both on and off the pitch.

 

Having said that 4-0 would be nice!!!

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