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Guly - Reading goal maker yesterday


Tony F
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Lots of us have commented about Guly's "intermittent" form - especially away from home.

 

I certainly felt that he did not look like he was pulling his weight yesterday, too many passes went atray etc.

 

But that touch he provided, to put Stve DR through from the throw-in, was sublime.

 

Gotta give credit where it's due.

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No complaints at all.

Not as young as some in the team, and although picked for all League matches has been subbed 10 times.

OBVIOUSLY, he's not a 95 minute player every week, and NA knows this, but with 3 league goals (+1 cup) and more than a few assists, those " Brazilian" touches like yesterdays set-up for SDR - makes him worth his place in my book.

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Lots of expert's slagged him off after the swindon game and can't admit they were wrong so leap on any error or poor game as evidence. Ignoring the goals and assists he's got for us this season and last, he can be hit and miss but produces match winning moments of class, that not many players at this level can replicate.

 

Remember it well.

 

He was the only player who knew where to be in order to score a goal, trouble was that the team were out of sorts that day and didn;t realise that they could have gained a simple win by just getting the ball to Guly repeatedly.

 

I don't profess to know anything about football tactics like some on here, but it was staring us in the face that day. Guly is a diamond, I don't expect him to play every week but I would dearly miss him if he ever left. He may not be a Matt LeTiss but he can win you a game with one single flick of the ball, yesterday it was The Riddler who benefited but any outfield player must dream of having a ball delivered to them with such panache as he showed yesterday.

Sunday's word of the day - panache

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Guly is a diamond, I don't expect him to play every week but I would dearly miss him if he ever left.

 

I think that's about right, at least as far as I'm concerned. Yet he has started every single league game this season.

 

I do wonder if, away from home, we're not maximising our results by ignoring de Ridder from the start. At home we're likely to have more posession, which obviously suits Guly's game much better. Away from home we need to play on the counter a little more, but yesterday's team had no pacy outlet, someone who looked like they were going to sprint beyond the last man.

 

I've thought this season that, with Lallana and Guly on both wings, while both are clearly good players they are a little similar in style. De Ridder gives something much more different, he's fast, direct and will look to attack players on his own or can get in behind with a ball over the top. With Lallana/Chaplow and Guly, I just don't see that we have that option. As a consequence yesterday Reading were able to play a very high line with us and squeeze play into our own half.

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2 Chaplow's would be the finishing touch for me, one either side of midfield; switching sides, over-lapping and spitting balls to any player with enough of a football brain to be in a great position to astound and demolish the opposition with skill and panache.

 

Now, where could we possibly find a player of that ilk I wonder???

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Lots of expert's slagged him off after the swindon game and can't admit they were wrong so leap on any error or poor game as evidence. Ignoring the goals and assists he's got for us this season and last, he can be hit and miss but produces match winning moments of class, that not many players at this level can replicate.

 

Agreed, not even close to one of his best games but he played in SDR and was better than a few. He was easily better than Connoly but got far more criticism on here.

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Nowhere near his best yesterday but never worth the amount of abuse being dished out towards him from the numpties stood behind me which went on from start to finish of the game. Thing is you could easily pick on any player and then start ragging off when they misplace a pass or fail to control the ball properly and have ample opportunities to do it. They'd probably even claim his assist for the goal was lucky or something, wish I'd asked them about it.

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Lot of people suggested he may be one of those classic Brazilian players who goes missing away from home before he had even signed. Seems that may have been a good prediction! I've seen him be brilliant and other times be the worst player on the park. You never know what you are going to get!

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I'd rather analyse the full performance. Yes good assist, but his constant poor passing put us under pressure and IMO he got Hammond sent off. Happened several times, poor passes, players trying to recover the ball and conceding fouls. Guly played another poor ball and Hammond dived in to win it back.

 

But from that moment with 10 guly put a shift in and was great. Figure that one out!

 

It's pretty harsh to blame Guly for Hammond's sending off. Yes he played a loose pass but there was no need for Hammond to go in for it like that when already on a yellow. Hammond got himself sent off, Guly didn't do it for him.

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Yes, he had a bit of a stinker, but in general his link play is wonderful and he does more defensive covering than people give him credit for, a part of his game that he has improved on from last year.

 

Does seem more suited to home games where we are on the offensive more, but his eye for a pass is something that is needed to create chances especially with Lala out.

 

Oh ..... and his song is one most people seem to be able to manage quite well!!

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I was a doubter when he first joined - but then he gave me the thumbs up at the Total garage on the edge of the M3. That's when his form improved, and he's become a key player in our side. I mus admit he's nearly indispensible, he's class, he reads the game so well, has a great touch, and an eye for goal too - his biggest problem is that he's gangly and looks like he's not trying enough, even though he does.

 

Great touch yesterday, and should've scored Tuesday night too.

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He's a good player but he's not exceptional. Why do we need to have extremes of opinion? FWIW I'd be playing him alongside Lambert at the moment as DC needs a rest.

 

I agree. He is the only real option for a proven goalscorer with Barnard out (indefinitely) and Connolly not on his best form yet maybe DC should play deeper (as stand-in for Lallana) and play Guly as an out-and-out, old fashioned centre forward, that really would put the cat amongst the pigeons.

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I think you have to ask yourself in these situations whether we trust NA's judgement or not?

 

For me, I love Guly being in the side as he has the ability to unlock defences as he showed with the pass for SDR's goal. Yes, he gives the ball away sometimes but no more so than many other players. For example, Jack Cork is a very good player but gave away possession as much as Guly in my opinion versus Reading and also when he came on against West Ham yet gets little criticism.

 

I get frustrated when things are not going well and misplaced passes happen, but the number of times Guly has opened up play with deft touches, quality passes threaded through tight areas pinpoint for chances and goals etc plus the fact that he has the ability to score goals and has a bit of pace is more than enough for me to think he deserves his place in the side ahead of either Connolly or SDR at the moment. I still believe his best position is playing up off Lambert where he can cause the mayhem in the final third and giving the ball away in a tight area by trying something does not have as much of an adverse impact if it goes wrong.

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I'm the only one (very likely) who thinks he plays better in the middle with Lambert rather than out on the right? Guly is sometimes brillant, sometimes awful but he seems to pop up with something special when it's needed....

I always seem to think he is slightly more effective up top with Lambert, I'm not sure why, but last season I seem to remember he had a spell of a few games up there and he did well, was this when he had his 'purple patch' of scoring goals??

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I think NA is waiting for SDR to pick up his form then he will play him on the wing and allow guly to play upfront, also hes giving DC a chance to keep his scoring form up but he was poor yday so maybe now next league game he may start on the bench, for me DC and RL will only work when there is 2 pacey trickey wingers playing with them as they lack the pace but have amazing goal scoring ability and hold up play for this league.

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when considering the ..TWELVE players who have already netted for us this season.

Admitedly, we expect Ricky to be top man, Lallana has scored 5, whilst Guly and Connolly have 4 each (De Ridder3).

 

Surely not so bad for someone who effectively plays a midfield role, and like yesterday, he has made a number of assists too.

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It's pretty harsh to blame Guly for Hammond's sending off. Yes he played a loose pass but there was no need for Hammond to go in for it like that when already on a yellow. Hammond got himself sent off, Guly didn't do it for him.

 

It was a poor pass to no one, all be it from a tight area. Not great stuff.

 

The question is how much trouble would we have been in if Hammond had not dived in. IMO there would have been a massive gap in midfield and Hammond had got his first for the exact same reason - counter attack down the middle. Whether Hammond could have changed direction and stayed with the Reading player is debatable. I think he had to go for the tackle, so Guly must take some blame.

 

I didn't think his all round game was too bad. Cork and DC were miles worse.

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