Bridge Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Does anyone know why Jose Fonte came off at half time? I thought he looked off the pace yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 ....because he was off the pace???!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 tight hamstring. just a pre-cautio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 this was after his caution not pre it! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 I thought it was probably a precaution as he was on a yellow card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Jordan Sibleys tweet yesterday said it was a precaution because of a tight hamstring, was booked and was dropping too deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 IMO at times he completely switches off, loses a yard and ends up in a pickle. Seems to happen a little to frequently at the moment too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge Posted 23 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 23 October, 2011 ....because he was off the pace???!!!! Do you add ****-headed comments to get your post counts up? W*nker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 IMO at times he completely switches off, loses a yard and ends up in a pickle. Seems to happen a little to frequently at the moment too. Here we go!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 OOh er missus you must still have a hangover from last night! Just it was bloody obvious if you were at the game or watched it! Touchy touchy I don't need to keep my post count up and don't need to call my fellow Saints fan w*nkers too thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Here we go!! He does, not saying he's a bad defender am I, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Originally Posted by alexander IMO at times he completely switches off, loses a yard and ends up in a pickle. Seems to happen a little to frequently at the moment too. Here we go!! Go back to last season and this has been a common feature, with the odd blip per game. It's just that last season it was buried under problems with the rest of the defenders. I thought at the time he was doing too much and trying to cover for others. But he just gets himself out of position now and again and panic sets in to rectify the problem. He still puts in good performances even with that little foible, but because the rest of defence have tightened up it has become more noticeable. I would not drop him and believe he has a lot to add to the team, but you have to be blind not to see what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 I guess the one thing that Fonte, and to an extent Hooiveld lack which all of the other players at the back and in midfield have is competition for their place. I think bringing in some competition could only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 I thought it was probably a precaution as he was on a yellow card. Nigel Adkins' interview with the BBC explains it all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15319677.stm Fonte was feeling his hamstring, hee didn't feel he could sprint and so was dropping too deep, only felt like he was at 70%, no point in him pulling a hamstring and being out for 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Fonte only had to appear on the team sheet last season to beat most strikers this season he is up against better players who aren't as frightened & can capitalise on a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintIT Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Sometimes after however many years I don't think fans comprehend the concept of form. Players do well for ages, show what they can do, then as soon as they have a bad spell, they're not good enough. It's not just Saints fans, you hear it every week, especially with managers. It works both ways too. you hear Wolves and Bolton fans saying they're rubbish and going down, yet it's October and bad runs come any time. You hear idiot Geordies wondering if they can make the top 4, but it's early days and lower mid table is still fine for them. More crazy, you hear Forest fans that didn't want Cotterill say he's great after 2 games and has turned it round. Why is it you can't write off a manager after 2 games, but apparently you can say they're good? Sometimes it's the change that gets a reaction, but it doesn't make it a good long term change. It can even just be a bad run of fixtures that screws it up for a while. But with Fonte, he's getting used to a new partnership, playing in a very attacking team and is coming up against some very good strikers. He won't be as consistent as L1 where he could boss every defender, but it doesn't make him anything less than a huge asset to the team. Same way good top flight teams get turned over and have good defenders embarrassed sometimes. Judge him in May, and I'm sure once again Jose will have had a good season. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfinks Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Sometimes after however many years I don't think fans comprehend the concept of form. Players do well for ages, show what they can do, then as soon as they have a bad spell, they're not good enough. It's not just Saints fans, you hear it every week, especially with managers. It works both ways too. you hear Wolves and Bolton fans saying they're rubbish and going down, yet it's October and bad runs come any time. You hear idiot Geordies wondering if they can make the top 4, but it's early days and lower mid table is still fine for them. More crazy, you hear Forest fans that didn't want Cotterill say he's great after 2 games and has turned it round. Why is it you can't write off a manager after 2 games, but apparently you can say they're good? Sometimes it's the change that gets a reaction, but it doesn't make it a good long term change. It can even just be a bad run of fixtures that screws it up for a while. But with Fonte, he's getting used to a new partnership, playing in a very attacking team and is coming up against some very good strikers. He won't be as consistent as L1 where he could boss every defender, but it doesn't make him anything less than a huge asset to the team. Same way good top flight teams get turned over and have good defenders embarrassed sometimes. Judge him in May, and I'm sure once again Jose will have had a good season. Well said that man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Sometimes after however many years I don't think fans comprehend the concept of form. Players do well for ages, show what they can do, then as soon as they have a bad spell, they're not good enough. It's not just Saints fans, you hear it every week, especially with managers. It works both ways too. you hear Wolves and Bolton fans saying they're rubbish and going down, yet it's October and bad runs come any time. You hear idiot Geordies wondering if they can make the top 4, but it's early days and lower mid table is still fine for them. More crazy, you hear Forest fans that didn't want Cotterill say he's great after 2 games and has turned it round. Why is it you can't write off a manager after 2 games, but apparently you can say they're good? Sometimes it's the change that gets a reaction, but it doesn't make it a good long term change. It can even just be a bad run of fixtures that screws it up for a while. But with Fonte, he's getting used to a new partnership, playing in a very attacking team and is coming up against some very good strikers. He won't be as consistent as L1 where he could boss every defender, but it doesn't make him anything less than a huge asset to the team. Same way good top flight teams get turned over and have good defenders embarrassed sometimes. Judge him in May, and I'm sure once again Jose will have had a good season. Yep. I thought we were bottom of the table and going down reading the post match threads yesterday. Good teams lose games....and sometimes they even draw them with 10 men when not bang on form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 23 October, 2011 Share Posted 23 October, 2011 Ironically, a good injury timing wise. Let's hone this squad into a macine. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Bart is the key, We have a very good deputy in the most important position on the pitch. We'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 why is he now being pronounced Font by commentators and not Fontay. Would be interested to hear how David Pleat pronounced it - Jossee Font-eye maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 That's actually how it should be pronounced, not how it's is normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 Same as jonno quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 Sometimes after however many years I don't think fans comprehend the concept of form. Players do well for ages, show what they can do, then as soon as they have a bad spell, they're not good enough. It's not just Saints fans, you hear it every week, especially with managers. It works both ways too. you hear Wolves and Bolton fans saying they're rubbish and going down, yet it's October and bad runs come any time. You hear idiot Geordies wondering if they can make the top 4, but it's early days and lower mid table is still fine for them. More crazy, you hear Forest fans that didn't want Cotterill say he's great after 2 games and has turned it round. Why is it you can't write off a manager after 2 games, but apparently you can say they're good? Sometimes it's the change that gets a reaction, but it doesn't make it a good long term change. It can even just be a bad run of fixtures that screws it up for a while. But with Fonte, he's getting used to a new partnership, playing in a very attacking team and is coming up against some very good strikers. He won't be as consistent as L1 where he could boss every defender, but it doesn't make him anything less than a huge asset to the team. Same way good top flight teams get turned over and have good defenders embarrassed sometimes. Judge him in May, and I'm sure once again Jose will have had a good season. Right, so just to confirm fans can't highlight that a player's form has dropped until we've got to the end of the season? How does that work? I think Fonte has struggled a bit all season and out of current back 4, I'd say he's currently our weakest link. Even with Hooiveld here, we do still need further cover at centre back, as only having 3 fit centre backs isn't enough for a team playing the number of games we currently are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 Hows about giving those players who have been immense for us and our highly performing manager the respect and letting them sort these minor problems out before jumping on their backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 Hows about giving those players who have been immense for us and our highly performing manager the respect and letting them sort these minor problems out before jumping on their backs. Who's jumped on Fonte's back? He's had nothing but top support from our fans this season despite a few fairly average performances. The whole point of this forum is to discuss things like a drop in form of a key player, so stop being such a wet blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints 6 Derby 4 Posted 24 October, 2011 Share Posted 24 October, 2011 Having seen the thread on Steven Davies' injury (http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?33313-Steven-Davies-injury-against-us-last-week), it would be perfectly understandable if it had disturbed JF somewhat. It would explain a) his loss of form and, b) why he has taken to challenging for high balls with his hand in the air rather than with his elbows extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 October, 2011 Share Posted 25 October, 2011 Having seen the thread on Steven Davies' injury (http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?33313-Steven-Davies-injury-against-us-last-week), it would be perfectly understandable if it had disturbed JF somewhat. It would explain a) his loss of form and, b) why he has taken to challenging for high balls with his hand in the air rather than with his elbows extended. It wouldn't really, considering he's been playing the same for pretty much all of the season and not just after the Derby game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 25 October, 2011 Share Posted 25 October, 2011 Nigel said it was a tight hamstring so we should believe him, he is not a lying barsteward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 25 October, 2011 Share Posted 25 October, 2011 why is he now being pronounced Font by commentators and not Fontay. Would be interested to hear how David Pleat pronounced it - Jossee Font-eye maybe? Frankly who gives a toss! Anyone who takes any notice of TV commentators is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 October, 2011 Share Posted 25 October, 2011 why is he now being pronounced Font by commentators and not Fontay. Would be interested to hear how David Pleat pronounced it - Jossee Font-eye maybe? "Josathan Forte Font". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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