St Marco Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 , we didnt look bad value for a point and could have nicked it. To be fair i think that is looking at it a bit unfairly. Other then De Ridders goal i don't remember us even forcing their keeper to make a save? Davis on the other hand made quite a few hence why he got man of the match. Before Ridder came on we just punted it up field and hoped for the best. They must of had at least 15 corners? Personally i felt we were very lucky to get a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Very good point gained - how come we played out best football with only 10 men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Yep. We were awful. Are all our away games like this ? Sooner or later out home form will crack; keep up this sub-standard b*ll*cks away from SMS and we can forget promotion. Alps, we had a bad day at the office but we are still 3 points clear at the top of the league. I hate to be the one to break this to you but there will be occasions this season (and every season following it) where we won't play sublime, dazzling football for 90 minutes and opposition teams will dominate periods of games. Everything that we have achieved so far this season, and I mean everything, is due to the positive, winning mentality that Adkins has instilled into our players, yet you still take every possible opportunity to preach your depressing, negative drivel about how utterly sh*te we are and how our form will suffer and we will fail to get promoted. Seriously mate, why do you do it to yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Awful performance, but a great result. I cannot believe we managed to grind something out of that, so that's a big big positive for me. Other than that pretty forgetful, easily our worst game of the season - yet we still didn't lose at one of the toughest grounds. At least we can look back on this one as a good point...but any more performances of that level and we'll start slip sliding away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 To be fair i think that is looking at it a bit unfairly. Other then De Ridders goal i don't remember us even forcing their keeper to make a save? Davis on the other hand made quite a few hence why he got man of the match. Before Ridder came on we just punted it up field and hoped for the best. They must of had at least 15 corners? Personally i felt we were very lucky to get a point. Their keeper made a save from Martins header, and one of their defenders made an outstanding block when Fox was through on goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 To be fair i think that is looking at it a bit unfairly. Other then De Ridders goal i don't remember us even forcing their keeper to make a save? Davis on the other hand made quite a few hence why he got man of the match. Before Ridder came on we just punted it up field and hoped for the best. They must of had at least 15 corners? Personally i felt we were very lucky to get a point. Martin and Chaplow forced decent saves out of their keeper, but in general I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Passing was awful, incredibly lucky to have nicked a point. Great goal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Hammond got 2 yellows so misses palace away in cup when chance are he was going to be rested anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Well below par but still managed to get a point - overall we can't be too unhappy with the outcome. And as I've said before, an occasional kick up the arse like that is sometimes a good thing. Reading did well but we brought most of the pressure on to ourselves with some very poor passing, especially underhit touches and lay offs, just like the one that tempted Hammond into his sending off. I felt a bit sorry for him and you couldn't argue with the decision but both his bookings came from him simply trying to battle hard and win possession back after teammates had lost the ball. We know we can play better than that. The effort was there and I didn't think there was any complacency, we simply played bad football and too many passes failed to connect. On the plus side, I thought we defended pretty well and given that our defending hasn't been the best at times this season, and we lost Fonte at half time. Martin did well coming on into a tough game, and the whole side battled hard... we would've made it much easier for ourselves had our passing been even vaguely close to how we've seen in most games. The team need to be hard on themselves and recognise how underpar they were, but not dwell on it too long. We know we can be better and we just need to get back to what we're capable of. A good assessment and one I mostly agree with. Hammond was stupid going for that tackle once he had been booked he was just asking for trouble, not helped by his team mates though as you quite rightly say. I was very disappointed with a few players tonight. I thought Hammond and Cork lost the midfield battle and did not win hardly any 5050 balls. I thought Fox had a very poor game and was at fault for the goal, is he really better than Harding or even Mills come to think of it! Then there is Guly, not interested at all and if the game had gone differently he would have been subbed, but what a lovely flick for De Ridder's goal. More than happy with a point though despite the negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Their keeper made a save from Martins header, and one of their defenders made an outstanding block when Fox was through on goal. Yeah but that header was tame, and i don't remember Chaplow getting a shot in on goal thought he blasted it wide? And the block was not a shot, he got the ball before he had a chance to shoot. Which is great defending not good keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Oh dear 3 games without Hammond whatever shall we do ! 2 yellows should only be one match - hopefully the Palarse cup match - so it could be worse, or are you implying he's crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Yeah but that header was tame, he should of scored that. And the block was not a shot, he got the ball before he had a chance to shoot. Which is great defending not good keeping. Point is we still had the chances to win. We wouldn't have deserved it, but they were still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Worst performance this season, but we still managed to get a point. De Ridder must start while Lallana is out, we need that spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 I need to start gambling. Predicted a 1 - 1 draw and lo and behold... No, you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 To be fair i think that is looking at it a bit unfairly. Other then De Ridders goal i don't remember us even forcing their keeper to make a save? Davis on the other hand made quite a few hence why he got man of the match. Before Ridder came on we just punted it up field and hoped for the best. They must of had at least 15 corners? Personally i felt we were very lucky to get a point. Off the top of my head I can think of Martin's header and a shot from Chaplow that he saved well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 To be fair i think that is looking at it a bit unfairly. Other then De Ridders goal i don't remember us even forcing their keeper to make a save? Davis on the other hand made quite a few hence why he got man of the match. Before Ridder came on we just punted it up field and hoped for the best. They must of had at least 15 corners? Personally i felt we were very lucky to get a point. Like I said before, I only saw the last 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 actually for all Readings huff and puff...we created more better clear cut chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Point is we still had the chances to win. We wouldn't have deserved it, but they were still there. No the point was their keeper didn't do much. If you look at it like that you could say those couple of blocks by Jos were chances then. If anything Chaplow should of shot before the player got in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Sign of a good team, to play well, be one down and one man down, and still come back and get a point. We cannot play well every week, and to get a point when we play like that, is great. Bring on Boro!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Worst performance this season, but we still managed to get a point. De Ridder must start while Lallana is out, we need that spark. And according to some of the fans on Radio Berkshire, it was Reading's BEST performance of the season.....So, an excellent result away from home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Wrong message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Was it Guly's **** poor pass that led to Hammond getting sent off ? I believe it was. I get the impression that Guly is a bit of a home player to be honest. Was it not guly who set up de ridders goal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 No the point was their keeper didn't do much. If you look at it like that you could say those couple of blocks by Jos were chances then. If anything Chaplow should of shot before the player got in front of him. We seemed a little bit off the pace all over the pitch, but reading were buzzing!! 1-1 draw good result. De Ridder was fantastic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 actually for all Readings huff and puff...we created more better clear cut chances. To be fair according to the stats they had 10 shots on target to our 5 so I'm not sure thats accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 actually for all Readings huff and puff...we created more better clear cut chances. Probably the more clear cut chances, but they really should have won that based upon the possession and the amount of corners they had, their lack of clear cut chances was down to our defending though - we were terrifically organized from corners. But at the other end we couldn't keep the ball for toffee, and there was nothing out there until De Ridder came on. For me it's now time for De Ridder to start, you can argue he's a great sub...but he's a threat whenever he's on the pitch. Guly has had his place in the team on merit thus far...but on tonight showing he should be looking over his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Don't think we should be too harsh on ourselves, we did ok in the 2nd half and could easily have won it. to be fair Reading made it hard for us, but they were always going to. Need Lallana back, but otherwise very happy tonight. Bring on the beers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Guly was off his game tonight, gave the ball away a lot, but he stuck in there and set up the goal. He gives his all, but none of our players were given much time, apart from on the goal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Was it not guly who set up de ridders goal?? Yes it was but how does that make either my question or make my second comment wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 NA sees SDR all the time in training. He probably has doubts about his stamina to run the way he does for a full game and prefers to bring on his fresh legs against the tired ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 (edited) That was a very lazy first hour - the triangles were not being set because the movement was so lacking. Guly was poor - lots of ball watching, and then he sold Hammond short which ended up with his second yellow and the resultant red. I'd have taken Guly off - before he threaded that superb pass through for SDR, but what a finish! And - top job, Kelvin. Chaplow was everywhere and my MoM for us. Let's not forget - one on the road, three at home will win just about any division. Edited 22 October, 2011 by CanadaSaint Forgot to mention Chappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Win your home games, get points away from home. Certainly did that today, definitely take a point from that, esp being 10 men and 1 nil down. Well done De Ridder at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 @Dalek. You reckon Middlesbrough are possible champions and we are about 17th best. Surely, you'd settle for a plucky defeat at St Mary's? Draw at best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Possibly the worst i have seen us play under Adkins but good teams get results when they don't play well and we did that today. I really hope he cuts out the hoof ball because for the most if it we just punted it up to Rickie. De Ridder saved our ass. Think he deserves to start. A good point but have to say we were very lucky. Also Guly needs to be dropped now. He isn't doing well out on the wing at all imo. It was not that bad, Cardiff was worse. Reading played to stifle us and it worked, yet we still played a lot of football, but without pace or penetration. Guly and Chaplow were finding themselves in positions where they could not turn and advance and got picked off. We need a pacey centre froward to solve this problem and Ricky could still be out there now lying that deep without pace. I hear what everyone is saying about De Ridder, but I felt he had more of an impact coming on as he did than maybe if he had been blunted in that first half. We are going to have more of this until Lallana gets back, but it's still two points a game. Fonte is getting as regular as clockwork with his one a game, that was lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint cozza Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Watched it in a pub in Coventry (at uni up here) with some fellow saints. Not the best game, Cork looked off the pace and not up for it at all. But great goal by De Ridder, Kelvin was MOTM by a mile that save to tip over the bar in the first half was a top drawer. Still top of the league tho regardless of sundays games. COYRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Yes it was but how does that make either my question or make my second comment wrong ? Doesn't make you wrong, just think he can be forgiven for the p1ss poor pass by setting up the goal and making up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dad Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Happy with 1 point. Reading team looked far better than their current league position. Yet again KD saved us. The game reminded me of a couple of seasons ago when KD consistently won player of the month. In those days it was sad when the goalkeeper was winning player of the month! We had no attack. It should be midfield/forwards winning that award. Anyway, he is a true Saint! He has saved us again. Highlight was NA bringing on SDR as a late impact sub. Certainly did the job. Yet again Richard Chaplow impressed me. Fit as a butchers dog and NEVER gives up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 NA summed it up perfectly after the game,great to see a manager who tells it as it is,as opposed to telling it how he expected it to be. I thought that Kelvin was magnificent and the tip over from Leigertwood was world class,and Chaplow covered virtually every blade of grass on the pitch and was also magnificent . Delighted that De Ridder had such a positive impact. As poor as we were,until we went down to ten men,you have to give Reading credit,because alongside Forest they are the best side[by their performance that I have seen this season]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 what the hell is going on with fonte...? bit off form at the mo it seems almost one complete howler per game at the min Hooiveld is easily the best CB at the mo...again, did not do a great deal wrong today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayling Saint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Would have taken a draw before the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Really hope we can get Barny back soon, will be fantastic to have a proper striker on the bench again, or starting. Great point considering the circumstances. Morgan is defo ahead of Cork atm in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Positive has to be how dangerous SDR looks, love his confidence. He is a massive boost to the squad, I have been wanting him to start for a while but surly has to start now, he an lallana with lambert and Gully up front! I would. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Oh dear 3 games without Hammond whatever shall we do ! You don't do much to alter the stereotype of women and football do you; first Hammond's a journeyman and now he's going to get a 3 match ban for two yellows, hmmmmmm. Anyway, back to the game; we weren't at the races but nicked an excellent away point; sign of a good team if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Gotta say I can't believe Guly is still getting so much stick on here, he wasn't great but others were much worse. Lambert's link-up and hold-up play was non-existent and I won't even talk about energy and movement. Cork and Hammond weren't in the game and that's where I believe we so nearly lost all the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Ok. What s making such a difference ? More to the point, what s the solution ? Firstly just want to say happy with a lucky point, and delighted to be top. Due to being abroad I have not seen Saints too many times this season, but it appears we had a bad day at the office! However we did not do ourselves any favours - tactically Reading pi**ed all over us - their energy and closing down was amazing all over the pitch. They exploited the gaps left by our full backs pushing forward to perfection. They quite simply sussed our style of play and we did not really have a plan B (I know we tried the long ball to RL - but only about twice). This all changed after the sending off (lucky it wasn't two) - the team kicked up a gear, and I am sure if there was more time we would have won it even with 10 men. So this says we more than had the wherewithal to comfortably beat Reading, and we were just not up for it as much as they were - mix of complacency, wrong tactics and lack of work rate in view. Sure we missed AL, but we won without him on Tuesday because we were up for it. We better learn to deal with these tactics as most home teams will deploy them - I am sure we can, and Nig is hopefully sorting it as we speak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 We were ****ing awful until we had 1 sent off then suddenly woke up.Guly and Hammond were ********! How De Ridder isn't starting matches I'll never know. Complete different performance than Tuesday. Away form needs sorting desperately! Just hope Fonte and Lallana aren't out for too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 fair play to reading as they did a job on us and pressured us in to mistakes and losing possession. we struggled in face of having players in our faces and not enoughplqayers stepped up to the plate. With the exception of Chaplow the midfield was anonymous and Connoly didnt offer much. defence did alright in the face of quite an onslaught. Good atmosphere and great last 15 minutes. Would have taken a point before the game so happy(ish), but we need to bounce back, get Lallana back and think hard about strengthening in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Like most folks a very hard earned point think we missed a trick with Gorkss as he looked real class and made some brilliant tackles and had Lambert in his pocket to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Plus thought Martin looked good as well as Hooivied looking like our best CB, nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Worst display of the season. Shocking isn't the word. Quite how we come away with anything I'd beyond me. Need to wake up sharpish if our away form is going to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 22 October, 2011 Share Posted 22 October, 2011 Positive has to be how dangerous SDR looks, love his confidence. He is a massive boost to the squad, I have been wanting him to start for a while but surly has to start now, COYS I would have thought that he will start in the cup at Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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