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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3884760/Saints-bid-to-land-Maynard-on-cheap.html

 

[h=2]SOUTHAMPTON are to make a cut-price bid for Bristol City striker Nicky Maynard.[/h] Leicester had a £5million bid snubbed for Maynard but he is a free agent this summer.

Saints boss Nigel Adkins said: "We have funds to strengthen."

 

 

As rumours "backed up" by quotes go, that is utterly pathetic.

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Bristol City proper naused up the situation with Maynard. Even with him around they are bottom of the league but could have cashed him in for £5m with only a year left to go. Now they stand to go down with him and lose him for nothing or very little as well.

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We have not stopped in our attempts to get Maynard,at all.

It was ongoing through the summer and remains so for the January transfer window.

 

How do you know this?

Source?

 

And, whilst you're here:

1. Are you still apprehensive?

2. Do you still think Akins and his staff will underestimate the opposition?

3. Do you still think Adkins is tactically inept and will be proven to be so by 'more experienced' managers such as Allardyce, McClaren, Sven, etc?

4. Do you still think the likes of Lambert, Lallana, Guly, Richardson, et al, aren't good enough for the Championship?

 

Just asking genuine questions.

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How do you know this?

Source?

 

And, whilst you're here:

1. Are you still apprehensive?

2. Do you still think Akins and his staff will underestimate the opposition?

3. Do you still think Adkins is tactically inept and will be proven to be so by 'more experienced' managers such as Allardyce, McClaren, Sven, etc?

4. Do you still think the likes of Lambert, Lallana, Guly, Richardson, et al, aren't good enough for the Championship?

 

Just asking genuine questions.

 

think there due to the recent pain there has been a real reluctance to realise how good we are and how well we are doing. I still look at the league table with pleasant surprise.

 

Quite a few were not realistic in how good our players are, think it was dell days who thought I was mad to suggest we maybe above West Ham and Leicester signings were worse than our player.

 

How many leicester players could get in out team?

 

Forget the recent history we are on the up!

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I'd be surprised if we spent too much on Maynard. NC and NA will be thinking about January signings as potential PL players of next season, and I'm not convinced he's shown enough PL quality at Bristol City

 

If we try to buy Hoovield from Celtic, I wouldn't be surprised if Nigel tries a double swoop to include Gary Hooper. Hooper made his name at Scunny under NA, and seems to have lost his way this season

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How do you know this?

Source?

 

And, whilst you're here:

1. Are you still apprehensive?

2. Do you still think Akins and his staff will underestimate the opposition?

3. Do you still think Adkins is tactically inept and will be proven to be so by 'more experienced' managers such as Allardyce, McClaren, Sven, etc?

4. Do you still think the likes of Lambert, Lallana, Guly, Richardson, et al, aren't good enough for the Championship?

 

Just asking genuine questions.

 

 

At the time....Yes i was aprehensive,i was yet to be convinced that Adkins,some of the players where capable of stepping up to the NPC as not all had decent experience at that level.

You would have to be daft not to think that more experienced managers would have an edge over Adkins,never said he was inept,just lacking in proof that he can manage a big club at this level and all that comes with it.Again this was all pre season,but you know that.

I'm not sure many would have foreseen the position we are in now.

My level of expectation was low,which makes the position we are in even more enjoyable,i much prefer taking points from the oposition than from trying to score them from fellow posters.

Easy when you have the gift of hindsight eh.

Back on topic,some on here have recieved PMs reference my thoughts on the Maynard situation...you have red my previous post,now you have my thoughts also,albeit without the 'flesh on the bones' details.

Probably my last of 3 posts,i have no desire to become a full member anymore,much more fun to stand back and watch the bickering as opposed to be embroiled in it.

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At the time....Yes i was aprehensive,i was yet to be convinced that Adkins,some of the players where capable of stepping up to the NPC as not all had decent experience at that level.

You would have to be daft not to think that more experienced managers would have an edge over Adkins,never said he was inept,just lacking in proof that he can manage a big club at this level and all that comes with it.Again this was all pre season,but you know that.

I'm not sure many would have foreseen the position we are in now.

My level of expectation was low,which makes the position we are in even more enjoyable,i much prefer taking points from the oposition than from trying to score them from fellow posters.

Easy when you have the gift of hindsight eh.

Back on topic,some on here have recieved PMs reference my thoughts on the Maynard situation...you have red my previous post,now you have my thoughts also,albeit without the 'flesh on the bones' details.

Probably my last of 3 posts,i have no desire to become a full member anymore,much more fun to stand back and watch the bickering as opposed to be embroiled in it.

 

Just imagine what we could have achieved in Adkins hadn't lost the dressing room.

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If we are top or 2nd come Jan, we will be able to attract players that we werent able to in August, especially if players see that we are bolstering our squad for a final push towards the prem.

 

If BC are still down there in Jan, I can see them cashing in on NM so they can buy 2 or 3 decent players to try and keep them up.

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Hm. £20k pw in Southampton or £22k to live in Wigan. He'd need the extra £2k pw just to keep warm and get his keyed car resprayed.

 

There's some lovely countryside in Lancashire within easy driving distance of Wigan, and you'd get a lot more house for your money there than you would in Hampshire. Or if you are a stereotypical footballer you could live in central Manchester or its Cheshire suburbs, and mix it in the high life with the big boys from United and City.

 

All nearly always, it will be the wages that really matter in any transfer bid, much more than the fee.

 

Our best chance of signing a really good, established, player this January is that, if we are still top or thereabouts, we may negotiate a contract that guarantees a wage rise if/when we go up.

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At the time....Yes i was aprehensive,i was yet to be convinced that Adkins,some of the players where capable of stepping up to the NPC as not all had decent experience at that level.

You would have to be daft not to think that more experienced managers would have an edge over Adkins,never said he was inept,just lacking in proof that he can manage a big club at this level and all that comes with it.Again this was all pre season,but you know that.

I'm not sure many would have foreseen the position we are in now.

My level of expectation was low,which makes the position we are in even more enjoyable,i much prefer taking points from the oposition than from trying to score them from fellow posters.

Easy when you have the gift of hindsight eh.

Back on topic,some on here have recieved PMs reference my thoughts on the Maynard situation...you have red my previous post,now you have my thoughts also,albeit without the 'flesh on the bones' details.

Probably my last of 3 posts,i have no desire to become a full member anymore,much more fun to stand back and watch the bickering as opposed to be embroiled in it.

 

Thank you for answering without insults and name calling; I'll ignore the sarcasm.

 

I didn't think registered users could send PMs. Anyway, it seems its just your opinion and no source or ITKness then.

 

To be honest I will be surprised if we do sign Maynard in Jan.

 

I think it more likely that we will go for JRod or Sharpe again.

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Just imagine what we could have achieved in Adkins hadn't lost the dressing room.

 

Thank you for answering without insults and name calling; I'll ignore the sarcasm.

 

I didn't think registered users could send PMs. Anyway, it seems its just your opinion and no source or ITKness then.

To be honest I will be surprised if we do sign Maynard in Jan.

 

I think it more likely that we will go for JRod or Sharpe again.

 

He never lost the dressing room,never stated so.

It did seem however very early in his tenure the players could not replicate what he was trying to implement and the style he often aluded to in his interviews,thankfully that has now changed it seems.Hence the players did not seem 'able to play for him'.

 

 

 

I sent the PM's prior to becoming a mere registered user.

HTH.

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He never lost the dressing room,never stated so.

It did seem however very early in his tenure the players could not replicate what he was trying to implement and the style he often aluded to in his interviews,thankfully that has now changed it seems.Hence the players did not seem 'able to play for him'.

 

 

 

I sent the PM's prior to becoming a mere registered user.

HTH.

 

you have plenty of times..plenty of times you claim the players don't play for adkins, can't play for adkins, things are not right...despite a storming end to the season...after a draw you were always in full voice saying how poor adkins was/is

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some had their heart set on a big name manager, rather than a good one. Then it becomes hard to admit you were wrong.

 

take good manager over big name any day.

 

imho already better manager than WGS.

 

When we get to a Cup Final for a competition involving the top two divisions and finish above 10th in the Prem a couple of times I'll take that view seriously. Until then Adkins is still unproven in the top division.

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At the time....Yes i was aprehensive,i was yet to be convinced that Adkins,some of the players where capable of stepping up to the NPC as not all had decent experience at that level.

You would have to be daft not to think that more experienced managers would have an edge over Adkins,never said he was inept,just lacking in proof that he can manage a big club at this level and all that comes with it.Again this was all pre season,but you know that.

I'm not sure many would have foreseen the position we are in now.

My level of expectation was low,which makes the position we are in even more enjoyable,i much prefer taking points from the oposition than from trying to score them from fellow posters.

Easy when you have the gift of hindsight eh.

Back on topic,some on here have recieved PMs reference my thoughts on the Maynard situation...you have red my previous post,now you have my thoughts also,albeit without the 'flesh on the bones' details.

Probably my last of 3 posts,i have no desire to become a full member anymore,much more fun to stand back and watch the bickering as opposed to be embroiled in it.

 

I think you're no longer a member because you were wrong and it's hard to take. You still seem plenty keen on bickering actively.

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Doing a good job isn't all about what you achieve in the top flight. Strachan didn't have to take over a team in League 1. He did well, but 8th, while good, isn't something to get hugely excited about. By that, I mean in most seasons the points difference of 8th-12th is negligible. Cup final was good, but there's no doubt we had a nice run to the final then he bottled it. I really wanted us to go for it that day but we just tried to contain Arsenal.

 

I enjoyed last season more than 2003 anyway, and I guarantee I'd enjoy promotion again more than anything we've done before. Back to back promotions would mean he'd turned the club around completely. Strachan made us better and left us in the same league, but I think he ran out of ideas and signings like McCann weren't going to help.

 

How much you enjoy as season doesn't have any bearing on the relative merits of the managers or their achievements. Anyway, finishing 8th in the Prem on a limited budget is harder than getting promoted from League One when you're outspending everyone.

 

Of course there's a recent Saints comparison to be made as well... if Pardew gets Newcastle into the top 4 this season it will be astonishing, if they finish top 8 it will be a huge success - and he's also already got a team to a Cup Final and narrowly lost to an overwhelming favourite too...

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Cup final was good, but there's no doubt we had a nice run to the final then he bottled it. I really wanted us to go for it that day but we just tried to contain Arsenal.

 

I think the 6-1 raping the week before may have influenced the decision as did Fernandes collecting French national team autographs in the first half!!

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I thought we all knew why Maynard never joined in the summer and why he's not going to join in Jan unless he and his agent get real but judging by the responses in this thread I guess not.

 

I would suggest we hold off getting his name on the back of our shirts for a while yet.

 

Maynard can name his price and a team will pay it in the summer. It arguably makes more sense to sign him on a free, pay him £40,000pw and sell him for £4m in two years time (effectively getting a free player for two years) than to sign someone for £1m pay him £10,000pw and sell him for £1m (cost £1m).

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Thank you for answering without insults and name calling; I'll ignore the sarcasm.

 

I didn't think registered users could send PMs. Anyway, it seems its just your opinion and no source or ITKness then.

 

To be honest I will be surprised if we do sign Maynard in Jan.

 

I think it more likely that we will go for JRod or Sharpe again.

 

I'd be surprised if we went for him. Reading between the lines it seemed as though he wasn't the right character to fit into the squad. That's not based on anything other than both sides backtracking pretty quickly having met.

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I'd be surprised if we spent too much on Maynard. NC and NA will be thinking about January signings as potential PL players of next season, and I'm not convinced he's shown enough PL quality at Bristol City

 

If we try to buy Hoovield from Celtic, I wouldn't be surprised if Nigel tries a double swoop to include Gary Hooper. Hooper made his name at Scunny under NA, and seems to have lost his way this season

 

That seems quite possible but although Hooper is a good goalscorer he probably wouldn't satisfy the other issue we seem to be looking for, and Maynard's main attribute,pace.So much depends if we are looking for a traditional striker or one with pace.

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