Wurzel Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Why are all the references to a SMS record? It's more than the record at The Dell as well so it's actually a CLUB home attendance record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamwic Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Whatever the number, the ground was very quiet for long periods. If the atmosphere was as tense there as it was listening to radio commentary then I'm not surprised. There was plenty of noise in this house after the final whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Whatever the number, the ground was very quiet for long periods. If the atmosphere was as tense there as it was listening to radio commentary then I'm not surprised. There was plenty of noise in this house after the final whistle. It definitely was extremely tense.. Was almost in a trance wishing the clock down for the last 20 mins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Um... Didnt the announcer say "the biggest attendance of the season" rather than a new record??? Sure thats what I heard.... No, he said "new record". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Whatever the number, the ground was very quiet for long periods. If the atmosphere was as tense there as it was listening to radio commentary then I'm not surprised. There was plenty of noise in this house after the final whistle. Always an absolutely bulls**t excuse for people not getting behind the side, it was "too tense", laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 No, he said "new record". Sure I heard "...of the season" in the somewhere. Maybe he said it was a record for season and club history... Or I have some wax to dig out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 19 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2011 I had it on the radio and they were talking about it at the time. The public announcement said "Today's attendance is 31,150...which is a stadium record." People then started tweeting in that they'd actually missed the record by one. Then towards the end of the game commentators said "Club spokesman Jordan Sibley has just informed us that the attendance is actually 31,152 so it is a new record by one." Definitely a fix, not that I mind. I'm sure it was done for publicity, and here we are talking about it. Also, people may not leave it until the day to buy tickets now that we're selling out again. Incidentally I'm pretty sure they've announced the attentance shortly into the second half for a while now. From what I heard it gave the whole crowd a boost and the atmosphere jumped again (not just from WHU fans, tho I was at the mercy of Solent's mic positioning). I think it would have been a real downer to say "Attendance is 32,150...which is one short of a record!" and I'm sure WHU fans still wouldn't have let it go. Also, as some people were asking, the England Macedonia game got 32,095, about 50 short of the record. http://www.englandfootballonline.com/seas2000-10/2002-03/M0798Mkd2002.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 The 8000 who will be back for premier league games thought they'd come along to see if they can still find SMS. One bloke asked me if I could point him towards the 'northen end'. FFS The fair weather fans come out of the shadows when the team does well. I recall the heady days of our first promotion to Div. 1 (1966). After being battered every week by class opposition, the gate drifted down whilst the die-hard fans stood in the wind and rain every match. As soon as we picked up a bit of form - back they came with their Saints scarves, screaming at every player - even though they couldn't identify who they were - and had to look at the programme every five minutes. Still nice to get a good gate (record or not )..but I wonder how often we'll get that figure again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 I had it on the radio and they were talking about it at the time. The public announcement said "Today's attendance is 31,150...which is a stadium record." People then started tweeting in that they'd actually missed the record by one. Then towards the end of the game commentators said "Club spokesman Jordan Sibley has just informed us that the attendance is actually 31,152 so it is a new record by one." Definitely a fix, not that I mind. I'm sure it was done for publicity, and here we are talking about it. Also, people may not leave it until the day to buy tickets now that we're selling out again. Incidentally I'm pretty sure they've announced the attentance shortly into the second half for a while now. From what I heard it gave the whole crowd a boost and the atmosphere jumped again (not just from WHU fans, tho I was at the mercy of Solent's mic positioning). I think it would have been a real downer to say "Attendance is 32,150...which is one short of a record!" and I'm sure WHU fans still wouldn't have let it go. Also, as some people were asking, the England Macedonia game got 32,095, about 50 short of the record. http://www.englandfootballonline.com/seas2000-10/2002-03/M0798Mkd2002.html Knew there was a word beginning with S in there ;-) Don't mind the attendance announcement but the announcement about the north car park being closed couldnt have come at a worse time as there were minutes left and the pressure was really high and then that announcement came on at the risk of putting the players off... Always gets my back up when I'm trying to enjoy the game. Think the crowd should boo him out everytime like during the pitch invasion announcement last season lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 (Cant be bothered to read the whole thread to see if it's been said, but...) Didn't we set a stadium record for MLT's testimonial as there was no segregation? Edit: Just looked it up. It was 31,904. Can't believe there were tickets left for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 19 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2011 (Cant be bothered to read the whole thread to see if it's been said, but...) Didn't we set a stadium record for MLT's testimonial as there was no segregation? Edit: Just looked it up. It was 31,904. Can't believe there were tickets left for that 31,904. Not a record. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/1985402.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Um... Didnt the announcer say "the biggest attendance of the season" rather than a new record??? Sure thats what I heard.... No, he said "new record". Yep,definitely said "new record." You deaf tw*t Liquid:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Sure I heard "...of the season" in the somewhere. Maybe he said it was a record for season and club history... Or I have some wax to dig out... He defnitely said 'record' , nothing to do with 'season', and he also definitely said 32,150, which isn't a record! But that had miraculously become 32,152 later, which is a record by 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springhill Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Anyone remember the attendance at Mick Channons testimonial held a few days after the 76 cup final. I thought it was 30k+as people were standing on the touchline and invading the corners of the pitch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Anyone remember the attendance at Mick Channons testimonial held a few days after the 76 cup final. I thought it was 30k+as people were standing on the touchline and invading the corners of the pitch!!! I think officially around 29500. Realistically if you add me and my mates who got in through an exit gate pulled off it's rollers (after queuing from 4pm and STILL being locked out), the constant stream getting in by climbing a lampost and clambering OVER the Milton Wall, the 2s and 3s squeezing into one turnstile to speed things up, times it by 4 for the 3 sides I couldn't see, was probably around 35000+, increasing by about 10% as soon as the exit gates opened near the end of the game Health & safety my arse, we all survived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Has anyone ever actually seen a tent dance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Maybe the 'two' got cut off by our awful PA system? Edit: or not, as they were still saying stuff about how good it was after... Hm, ah well, in any case still a bloody good turnout for a cold tuesday night. The figure ending in a 0 was broadcast in 20 foot tall digits on the scoreboards. This is a massive piece of PR bullsh*t and I for one will continue to recognise the Arsenal game as the record attendance. There were two rows of empty seats at the front of the disabled area for starters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 was the game database only? if not probably a good few irons in home stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 was the game database only? if not probably a good few irons in home stands. It was, but they'd already sold out a while before that and there were still one or two on their forum who were in the home stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissisgod Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Mystery solved re the attendance adjustment. Have just spoken to a mate of mine who travelled down from London yesterday for the game, because of train delays he did not arrive at the game until 55 mins gone, him and his mate were eventually let in after a certain amount of door banging alerted the stewards, they were the additional 2 that helped us break the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 The 8000 who will be back for premier league games thought they'd come along to see if they can still find SMS. One bloke asked me if I could point him towards the 'northen end'. FFS I agree, If you weren't there (at least in spirit) when we were bottom of L1 on minus 10 points then you're just not a proper Saints fan in my view - indeed we should have a tee shirt printed to that effect. Johnny Come Lately's who can only be arsed to turn up now that we're doing well are barely one step up the football gene pool from the hordes of irredeemably 'plastic' MUFC/Chelsea/Liverpool/Citi fans that infest our streets. Looking back, some on here deserve medal for all the crapola SFC has put them through in the last 5 years - but seeing where we are now it was all worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 The figure ending in a 0 was broadcast in 20 foot tall digits on the scoreboards. This is a massive piece of PR bullsh*t and I for one will continue to recognise the Arsenal game as the record attendance. There were two rows of empty seats at the front of the disabled area for starters... Just because there were a few empty seats doesn't mean they weren't sold. Not everyone with a season ticket comes to every game, particularly those with young children on school nights. The club announced it was a sell out long before kick off, why would they stop potential customers trying to buy a ticket by doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Just because there were a few empty seats doesn't mean they weren't sold. Not everyone with a season ticket comes to every game, particularly those with young children on school nights. The club announced it was a sell out long before kick off, why would they stop potential customers trying to buy a ticket by doing that? i think the point he is making was even as a "sell out" the crowd was not a record, yet after the initial annoucement the club ensured the attendance was a PR boosting record by adding a couple of extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 This is all getting a bit silly. It was a sell out, as near as damn it, and let's hope there are lots more of them as the season progresses. Our average home gate is not too bad and will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelat17 Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Mystery solved re the attendance adjustment. Have just spoken to a mate of mine who travelled down from London yesterday for the game, because of train delays he did not arrive at the game until 55 mins gone, him and his mate were eventually let in after a certain amount of door banging alerted the stewards, they were the additional 2 that helped us break the record. Gutted to have missed the goal, but happy they got into break the record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 If a certain local cab firm had had heir way the magic figure would have been 5 shy, including 2 wheelchairs. No names no pack drill but should they decide not to get in touch and offer some form of recompense to the group for cancelling the Hedge End pick-ups at very short notice, then the agreement for all home Saints matches will be up for grabs to any cabbies out there. In fact there is a good chance that it will include the Eastleigh chapter on a few occasions. Get your bids in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Mystery solved re the attendance adjustment. Have just spoken to a mate of mine who travelled down from London yesterday for the game, because of train delays he did not arrive at the game until 55 mins gone, him and his mate were eventually let in after a certain amount of door banging alerted the stewards, they were the additional 2 that helped us break the record. That could explain why the announcement was 32150, since that would have been recorded at half time and would have been the figure in front of the announcer. Someone probably realised the extra two coming in meant a record attendance and let the announcer know, and he would have read out the figure he had in front of him. Would also explain the strange timing of the announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 That could explain why the announcement was 32150, since that would have been recorded at half time and would have been the figure in front of the announcer. Someone probably realised the extra two coming in meant a record attendance and let the announcer know, and he would have read out the figure he had in front of him. Would also explain the strange timing of the announcement. no it doesn't at all, the attendance is actually tickets sold not the number of people through the gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Whatever the number, the ground was very quiet for long periods. If the atmosphere was as tense there as it was listening to radio commentary then I'm not surprised. There was plenty of noise in this house after the final whistle. Solent lost their "effects" mic for a while early in the 2nd half, thats why it was somewhat quiet on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 That could explain why the announcement was 32150, since that would have been recorded at half time and would have been the figure in front of the announcer. Someone probably realised the extra two coming in meant a record attendance and let the announcer know, and he would have read out the figure he had in front of him. Would also explain the strange timing of the announcement. I was hoping the original poster was joking and I hope you are as well, if not how the f**k were you given the responsibility of moderator on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 But I was always under the impression (from what people have said on here) that the attendance was based on tickets sold, rather than turnstile clicks, so why would two latecomers make any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 Heh, my dry deadpan sense of humour coming back to bite me online yet again And yeah, it's been based on tickets sold for ages. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083630/The-truth-modern-day-attendances-How-clubs-count-missing-fans.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelat17 Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 But I was always under the impression (from what people have said on here) that the attendance was based on tickets sold, rather than turnstile clicks, so why would two latecomers make any difference? The two latecomers could have been two members of club staff (megastore/ticket office) or who were outside the ground who didnt have tickets, but were then told to 'get your arses' in the ground so we can claim its a record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 The figure ending in a 0 was broadcast in 20 foot tall digits on the scoreboards. This is a massive piece of PR bullsh*t and I for one will continue to recognise the Arsenal game as the record attendance. There were two rows of empty seats at the front of the disabled area for starters... It's definitely something you shouldn't really get worked up about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcuk fan Posted 19 October, 2011 Share Posted 19 October, 2011 no it doesn't at all, the attendance is actually tickets sold not the number of people through the gates. But is it though ??? several posters have asked the question is it tickets sold or bums on seats ? http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2487147,00.html The 4th line .... one occupied seat .... I would read this to mean bums on seats, not tickets sold ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 October, 2011 Share Posted 20 October, 2011 Yep,definitely said "new record." You deaf tw*t Liquid:) Did they count the mascot, ball boys and the stewards, too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jeweller Posted 20 October, 2011 Share Posted 20 October, 2011 Did they count the mascot, ball boys and the stewards, too ? Also the 22 players subs and officials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 October, 2011 Share Posted 20 October, 2011 Just because there were a few empty seats doesn't mean they weren't sold. Not everyone with a season ticket comes to every game, particularly those with young children on school nights. The club announced it was a sell out long before kick off, why would they stop potential customers trying to buy a ticket by doing that? Absolutely, I couldn't make it on tuesday, but my seat was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFSFC Posted 20 October, 2011 Share Posted 20 October, 2011 Five pages who cares... I for one like the fact our record is in the championship. Let's hope those in the boxes buy again as well as the normal punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 It's definitely something you shouldn't really get worked up about... It's something I haven't even thought about since the last time I was on this thread, but 32,150 it is. None of this "recount" nonsense, attendance figures are empirically verifiable from tickets counted (they chuck the ST stubs away, but they keep the cardboard by-match tickets from what I've seen at the turnstiles) and used for tax purposes, they should not be down to some marketing bloke making them up to create an artificial record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 When you factor in the empty seats on Tuesday night (ST holders not there/ST kids not there/stuck in traffic/last minute drop outs) the reality is there was probaly more bums on seats for the Walsall game last year - not an empty seat to be seen that day. At the end of the day who really cares? It's all a bit meaningless where they count 'tickets sold' over 'turnstile clicks'; as those of us who were there will know, the biggest crowd ever at a Southampton home game was for Mick Channon's testimonial, end of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 The biggest crowd ever at a Southampton home game was for Mick Channon's testimonial, end of! * And i was there a great emotional night had by all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 21 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 October, 2011 The biggest crowd ever at a Southampton home game was for Mick Channon's testimonial, end of! * And i was there a great emotional night had by all.... You and 60,000 others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 Does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 Doesn't help that Middlesbrough is in one of the poorest areas of the country, hardest-hit by the recession. Their away numbers are quite impressive, though. No, no let's be fair. That stadium is probably the nicest part of Teeside! So there's no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 You and 60,000 others! There was certainly around 10,000 (including me) locked out that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 21 October, 2011 Share Posted 21 October, 2011 Does it really matter? Exactly. We only have the clubs word that it was 32152, just as we only have the clubs word that Arsenal was 32150. Any attendance ever quoted may be right may be wrong, the only "official" figure is the one the club "officially announces" (which would be what they announce in a written record, not what a stadium announcer may or may not have misquoted/been misinformed) So NO, it doesn't matter, just like every other game the attendance is what the club says it was. (unless of course anyone can prove different) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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