Thedelldays Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15138661 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Crikey. A man being raped seems so much worse than when it's a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Crikey. A man being raped seems so much worse than when it's a woman. Most women wouldn't agree with that statement, I bet. Rape is dreadful - full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Most women wouldn't agree with that statement, I bet. Rape is dreadful - full stop. No, I'm sure they wouldn't and there's no sensible reason why they should. It just has a strikingly outlandish feel to it. Also, physiologically, a rape on a man is likely to be necessarily somewhat unpleasant. Rape against anyone is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 What on earth is going on? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15142258 (No smart-alec answers please - it's a rhetorical question really) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 it's probably immigrants these people have no morals and like doing that sort of thing. In fact the greeks are even proud of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 it's probably immigrants these people have no morals and like doing that sort of thing. In fact the greeks are even proud of it. I think this says more about you TBH Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Oh come on BTF you can't tell me there's not a history of it in europe, this is a place that brought us the Marquis de Sade and the greek peado's of course they're still going to be like that now. Don't be so naive and liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Oh come on BTF you can't tell me there's not a history of it in europe, this is a place that brought us the Marquis de Sade and the greek peado's of course they're still going to be like that now. Don't be so naive and liberal. 1. the Marquis de Sade lived in the 1700s 2. Greek paedophilia (note the correct spelling) was, apparently although this is dubious, prevalent hundreds of years ago. Society in general has moved on. Ancient Greek paedophilia has nothing to do with these two cases where adults have been raped. You might just as well say that the English have a predisposition towards sending children up chimneys. You should be ashamed of yourself for such xenophobic (mis)stereotyping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 What on earth is going on? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15142258 (No smart-alec answers please - it's a rhetorical question really) Why the hell with all the sex attacks in our cities parks do women STILL choose to walk through them alone in the early hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Why the hell with all the sex attacks in our cities parks do women STILL choose to walk through them alone in the early hours? The same could be said of men. I would have thought, in a civilised society that anyone should feel able to walk safely through a park alone, day or night. Rather than criticise the victims, it would be better to have a pop at the perpetrators, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Seems to be the season for sexual assaults in Southampton, the latest it looks like they actually have caught someone. What is it about this country and city that women are not safe to walk thru the park. Some saddo who can't get what he needs in a relationship feels the need to violate women in such a way that will probably scar them for life, From some of the comments on here god forbid you ever get the call early in the morning from the Police saying your daugther/wife/sister has been assaulted and needs you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Seems to be the season for sexual assaults in Southampton, the latest it looks like they actually have caught someone. What is it about this country and city that women are not safe to walk thru the park. Some saddo who can't get what he needs in a relationship feels the need to violate women in such a way that will probably scar them for life, From some of the comments on here god forbid you ever get the call early in the morning from the Police saying your daugther/wife/sister has been assaulted and needs you. This. But the received wisdom is that men who rape do it to exert power and not (necessarily) for sexual gratification. I think I'm right in saying that the majority of male rapes are carried out by heterosexual men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 The same could be said of men. I would have thought, in a civilised society that anyone should feel able to walk safely through a park alone, day or night. Rather than criticise the victims, it would be better to have a pop at the perpetrators, don't you think? You do seem to live in a very naive and ideological bubble rickety old bridge don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 The same could be said of men. I would have thought, in a civilised society that anyone should feel able to walk safely through a park alone, day or night. Rather than criticise the victims, it would be better to have a pop at the perpetrators, don't you think? While I agree, this statement reeks of the same bile as the slutwalk. Yes, in a perfect world everyone would be 100% safe all the time, there's also be no war, disease, famine or Justin Bieber. People should take necessary precautions is I think the point bpsaint is trying to make. No-one is blaming the victim but the fact is she put herself needlessly at risk. I don't go doing cartwheels next to cliffs if I can avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 You do seem to live in a very naive and ideological bubble rickety old bridge don't you. No, not at all. I wouldn't walk in a park on my own late at night but that doesn't mean it's right that I should even have to give it a second thought. A man has been raped in Southampton this weekend. Would you say that no man should walk alone at night also? Double standards you see - the attitude of many men is 'well, she was asking for it'. Err no she wasn't. Nor was the man this weekend but I suppose I could say 'well, what did he expect, being out on his own. Asking for it, in my opinion'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Its this hot weather getting me all hot and bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 The same could be said of men. I would have thought, in a civilised society that anyone should feel able to walk safely through a park alone, day or night. Rather than criticise the victims, it would be better to have a pop at the perpetrators, don't you think? I agree, the people that do this are scum, and I'm not saying she was asking for it etc. Unfortunately unlike suggested in your post it's not a completely civilised society and parks aren't always safe at night, and the fact that I seem to read about the same sort of attacks every year in the echo suggest women could be a bit more savvy with their own safety. Like farawaysaint says about doing cartwheels near cliffs I wouldn't go jogging on a motorway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 What the article fails to mention is that he was wearing lycra cycling shorts and a vest. He was asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 This is how rapists should be treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Has anyone else heard this? It's completely wrong, yet (in my opinion) also very funny. What was Wyngarde thinking? Yeah, I know I'll cash in on being Jason King by releasing a completely bizarre album featuring a song about rape. Mental. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDfnkm3WN9k&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL11F9087C3B0A8F19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 This is how rapists should be treated. Now you will have some saying "what about his human rights he shouldn't have been allowed to be murdered in prison". I agree he shouldn't have been murdered by fellow inmates he should have been hanged by the authorities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Just seen this:- http://m.nbcnewyork.com/nbcnewyork/pm_107752/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=tEo7MfW4 Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Now you will have some saying "what about his human rights he shouldn't have been allowed to be murdered in prison". I agree he shouldn't have been murdered by fellow inmates he should have been hanged by the authorities rapists and paedos deserve everything they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 rapists and paedos deserve everything they get. What? Pervy sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Was it really rape, or sexual assault? Unless the legal definition has changed, it has to be intercourse (vaginal or anal) to qualify as rape. Probably a skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 October, 2011 Share Posted 3 October, 2011 This is how rapists should be treated. We should not give them all medals. Sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 October, 2011 Share Posted 3 October, 2011 We should not give them all medals. Sick. One of them who did it was convicted of breaking into a nursing home and murdering two frail pensioners. He, like the fiend that was killed, should have hanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 3 October, 2011 Share Posted 3 October, 2011 Was it really rape, or sexual assault? Unless the legal definition has changed, it has to be intercourse (vaginal or anal) to qualify as rape. Probably a skate. 1) No it doesn't 2) Men have arses too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 Here's an e-fit of the alleged perpetrator of the male rape http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15160201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 Here's an e-fit of the alleged perpetrator of the male rape http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15160201 Seems he went to the same hair clinic as Wayne Rooney, surely that's a massive clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 (edited) 1) No it doesn't Sorry, I believe I am actually correct. "The Sexual Offences Act 2003 (the Act) came into force on the 1 May 2004. It repealed almost all of the existing statute law in relation to sexual offences. The purpose of the Act is to strengthen and modernise the law on sexual offences, whilst improving preventative measures and the protection of individuals from sexual offenders. Under section 1(1) SOA 2003 a defendant, A, is guilty of rape if: _ A intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of B (the complainant) with his penis; _ B does not consent to the penetration; and, _ A does not reasonably believe that B consents." source: http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Definitionofrape2.php And it has to be penetration by a penis. So woman can not ever commit 'rape'. Unless they have a penis. Which they don't. But a woman can be convicted of the crime of 'rape' if she willingly helped a man do the act of penetration, such as if she held down the victim. And if a man jumps a woman and shoves a banana up her vagina then it is not rape, it would be 'assault by penetration'. Rape is ONLY penetration with a penis of the vagina, anus or mouth. Edited 4 October, 2011 by 1976_Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhere In Northam Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 (edited) it's probably immigrants these people have no morals and like doing that sort of thing. In fact the greeks are even proud of it. nonsensical post, think i will put it down as un-informed as opposed to . . . . Edited 4 October, 2011 by Somewhere In Northam personal attack i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 Sorry, I believe I am actually correct. No, you aren't. You said it requires vaginal or anal intercourse. Penetration of the mouth (by a penis) is also s1 rape, as you subsequently appear to have discovered by google/wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 (edited) No, you aren't. You said it requires vaginal or anal intercourse. Penetration of the mouth (by a penis) is also s1 rape, as you subsequently appear to have discovered by google/wiki don't be silly. You were obviously not aware of the legal definition of rape. The fact that I failed to include 'the mouth' too is irrelevant. It is clear that you assumed, prior to my educating you, that rape was any kind of sexual attack. And when I pointed out to you that you were wrong you are now sulking. And no, I didn't need to look it up on Google or wikipedia. I know these things. I merely provided you with a conclusive source so that you could bring yourself up to speed with the legal position. It really does pay to know what you are talking about before making a sweeping statement in such a way that you did. Edited 4 October, 2011 by 1976_Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 don't be silly. You were obviously not aware of the legal definition of rape. The fact that I failed to include 'the mouth' too is irrelevant. It is clear that you assumed, prior to my educating you, that rape was any kind of sexual attack. And when I pointed out to you that you were wrong you are now sulking. And no, I didn't need to look it up on Google or wikipedia. I know these things. I merely provided you with a conclusive source so that you could bring yourself up to speed with the legal position. It really does pay to know what you are talking about before making a sweeping statement in such a way that you did. Wow. Thanks for educating me. I guess those Law quals, years of experience, and having actually worked with one of the draftsmen on the study papers for the Sexual Offences Act, were all blown out of the water by your forum post. I'll make sure I say 50 hail mary's next time I'm at the Bailey. If you quote the legal definition of something, but leave out a fundamental element of it, it's pretty much the opposite of 'irrelevant'. Whatever. Simply reading the posts in order demonstrates that you're talking nonsense. If it hurts your ego too much to admit it, don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 don't be silly. You were obviously not aware of the legal definition of rape. The fact that I failed to include 'the mouth' too is irrelevant. It is clear that you assumed, prior to my educating you, that rape was any kind of sexual attack. And when I pointed out to you that you were wrong you are now sulking. And no, I didn't need to look it up on Google or wikipedia. I know these things. I merely provided you with a conclusive source so that you could bring yourself up to speed with the legal position. It really does pay to know what you are talking about before making a sweeping statement in such a way that you did. It is clear that you were wrong. Stop compounding your idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 1976_Child pwned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 4 October, 2011 Share Posted 4 October, 2011 1976_Child swfr aped no offence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 Wow. Thanks for educating me. I guess those Law quals, years of experience, and having actually worked with one of the draftsmen on the study papers for the Sexual Offences Act, were all blown out of the water by your forum post. I'll make sure I say 50 hail mary's next time I'm at the Bailey. If you quote the legal definition of something, but leave out a fundamental element of it, it's pretty much the opposite of 'irrelevant'. Whatever. Simply reading the posts in order demonstrates that you're talking nonsense. If it hurts your ego too much to admit it, don't worry about it. He isn't very bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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