CB Fry Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Hats off to two ex-employees (nothing more than ex-employees, of course) plying their trade at either end of the professional game. Alan Pardew: pretty astonishing start at the Toon, up to third and unbeaten with a team he's had to rebuild with not much money. Pretty darn good stuff. And the only person with any genuine honesty about Carlos Tevez - as the rest of the media soft-soaped about "gosh I've never ever heard that happen before" he was right in there and said "it happens more than you think". Paul Sturrock: despite a bit of a flop at Argyle (never go back) he shows he definitely has something in the bottom two divisions as Southend, who are completely skint, are at the top of the league just like his old club. I liked him a lot at Saints in his short time, and I am always pleased when he does well when in his element in the 3rd/4th tier - he's got two clubs promoted since Saints and he's on track for another. So well done Luggy and Pards for a start to the season almost as comparable as our Nige and the absolutely stunning Saints. Almost, but not quite - they're good, and we are a PHENOMENON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Agreed. Both doing exceptionally well. On a non-Saints associated management theme, I was told last night should Brizzle City lose to Blackpool, Keith Millen would be sacked. Good job they put up a brave fight and only lost 5 - 0 to Blackpool today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 I am a Luggy fan so its great to see him do well, as for Pards Im enjoying the slight confusion it makes with the NC can do no wrong brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Yeah well done alan, very very good manager, even the blinkered minority must see this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 I am a Luggy fan so its great to see him do well, as for Pards Im enjoying the slight confusion it makes with the NC can do no wrong brigade. Why, we're top of the bloody league and scoring goals for fun it was clearly the right choice, as much as anything Pardew had lost as much interest in the job (meaning theres no way we'd be where we are now) as NC had lost in Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Why, we're top of the bloody league and scoring goals for fun it was clearly the right choice, as much as anything Pardew had lost as much interest in the job (meaning theres no way we'd be where we are now) as NC had lost in Pardew. You know this how? We won our last game under him 4-0 - I doubt you're saying Adkins has lost interest in his job this evening after today's 4-0 win. This is old spent argument anyway. The point is there are two good managers who used to work for Saints now performing well in their natural habitats - Pardew was as ill-suited to League one as Luggy didn't quite fit the Premier League. Both are now on home turf and doing very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Why, we're top of the bloody league and scoring goals for fun it was clearly the right choice, as much as anything Pardew had lost as much interest in the job (meaning theres no way we'd be where we are now) as NC had lost in Pardew. Really?? you know this how?? there was no evidence of this whatsoever.... jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Really?? you know this how?? there was no evidence of this whatsoever.... jesus. when he gives interviews the whole way through just giving the words "yes" and "no" pretty much can say he was ****ed off with something either way, we are top of the league..whether pards would have got us here...we will never know good luck to both of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 You know this how? We won our last game under him 4-0 - I doubt you're saying Adkins has lost interest in his job this evening after today's 4-0 win. This is old spent argument anyway. The point is there are two good managers who used to work for Saints now performing well in their natural habitats - Pardew was as ill-suited to League one as Luggy didn't quite fit the Premier League. Both are now on home turf and doing very well. This is very true and boring. I have no doubt AP would have gotten us promoted but I cant help but see him as an old school manager and IMO things are changing, especially at our football club. The 4-0 doesn't mask the s**t start to the season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Always thought Pards was a good manager , i'm pleased for him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Red Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 It's a tough one. I don't really rate Pardew as a manager. Bought in some great players I admit, but not sure about his tactics. Really frustrated me with his subbing! That said, amazed by the toons current league position considering their squad. Inclined to agree with the 'flash in the pan' theory, can't see them making top 10 by the end of the season. Nigel is my hero anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Funny how Pardew who some slated on here as being poor tactically has managed to take a team who have sold their best players to the top 6 of the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Back in the day I was delighted when we got Luggy in. Probably because me dad supported Plymouth and I took the p*** out of it. But knowing what he had done during his time there was brilliant. But he has always done well at the lower leagues and bit of luck he can get Southend promoted this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 Newcastle were f*cking lucky today though, Wolves were on the end of some terrible refereeing decisions - including the ref giving a free-kick outside the area for a foul which happened a few yards inside the box, and a perfectly legitimate goal being ruled out because the lino (who had the sun in his eyes) thought the ball had gone out when Jarvis flicked it across the goal from a cross. Pards was a good manager for us, just a shame he was a bit of a stroppy c*nt at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Always rated Pardew, I was furious when he was sacked. Glad its worked out best for both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 I am a Luggy fan so its great to see him do well, as for Pards Im enjoying the slight confusion it makes with the NC can do no wrong brigade. "Luggy fan" lol ! Clearly the lower leagues can accept disfunctional types of behavior from their managers. As for Pardew he could win the Champions League with the Black and White cry-babies and then go on and win the World Cup for England and would still choose Adkins over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Always rated Pardew, I was furious when he was sacked. Glad its worked out best for both parties. This it worked out well for everyone in the end (well maybe not Houghton). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Pards is doing another fantastic job at a club that was in the doldrums,sounds familiar does'nt it. I sincerely hope he continues his success. He worked marvels during his time at Saints,and set the foundations for his successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 I am a Luggy fan so its great to see him do well, as for Pards Im enjoying the slight confusion it makes with the NC can do no wrong brigade. amazing how quickly a thread as tenuous as this to being currently saints related can be turned into a bash NC exercise, do some of you actually want sfc to succeed??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Hats off to two ex-employees (nothing more than ex-employees, of course) plying their trade at either end of the professional game. Alan Pardew: pretty astonishing start at the Toon, up to third and unbeaten with a team he's had to rebuild with not much money. Pretty darn good stuff. And the only person with any genuine honesty about Carlos Tevez - as the rest of the media soft-soaped about "gosh I've never ever heard that happen before" he was right in there and said "it happens more than you think". Paul Sturrock: despite a bit of a flop at Argyle (never go back) he shows he definitely has something in the bottom two divisions as Southend, who are completely skint, are at the top of the league just like his old club. I liked him a lot at Saints in his short time, and I am always pleased when he does well when in his element in the 3rd/4th tier - he's got two clubs promoted since Saints and he's on track for another. So well done Luggy and Pards for a start to the season almost as comparable as our Nige and the absolutely stunning Saints. Almost, but not quite - they're good, and we are a PHENOMENON. I totally agree with you on this one. Pardew's done a superb job at Newcastle and Sturrock was a manager whose record here was better than a lot of people think. If only he and Lowe had seen eye to eye at that time but we don't want to get into that debate again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 amazing how quickly a thread as tenuous as this to being currently saints related can be turned into a bash NC exercise, do some of you actually want sfc to succeed??? Think you are being very selective on the replies, and also misreading. The post does not bash NC, it bashes the "NC can do no wrong brigade", i.e. a very small number of posters who other even smaller in number posters mistakenly believe the CEO is above reproach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Clearly the lower leagues can accept disfunctional types of behavior from their managers. If he was as bad as some make out, then, without going over too much old ground, you do have to wonder about our managerial selection policy around that time and the choices we were making. When you consider that Wigley followed Sturrock!!!! (and who followed Wigley???) then my oh my, it was a torrid time for managerial choices at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 If he was as bad as some make out, then, without going over too much old ground, you do have to wonder about our managerial selection policy around that time and the choices we were making. When you consider that Wigley followed Sturrock!!!! (and who followed Wigley???) then my oh my, it was a torrid time for managerial choices at SMS. I remember when WGS left..we are all expecting a bigish name....the anticipation was quite something when wigley was announced I thought it actually was a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 I am a Luggy fan so its great to see him do well, as for Pards Im enjoying the slight confusion it makes with the NC can do no wrong brigade. sturrocks type of football would never succeed in the prem...he even failed in the NPC. he is a good lower league manager that plays effective football.. the end of the season he came in was a honeymoon period.. it was a known thing here in plymouth (from his family in the local paper) that he was out of his depth with the level of expectation and media attention in the prem he was way out of his league.. fair bloody play to him now though, he is a legend in these parts and has had a lot of personal problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 I am sure Adkins is thankful for the platform that Pardew left him. Good luck to both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 I am sure Adkins is thankful for the platform that Pardew left him. Good luck to both of them. yes, he said as such on in his latest beeb interview and said it was his job to take a good squad to the next level (and boy has he done that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 yes, he said as such on in his latest beeb interview and said it was his job to take a good squad to the next level (and boy has he done that) I thought that was a very nice part of the interview when Adkins praised Pardew for the squad he inherited. Very magnanimous IMHO and a change from those who would try and take all the glory themselves. He comes across as a decent fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 If he was as bad as some make out, then, without going over too much old ground, you do have to wonder about our managerial selection policy around that time and the choices we were making. When you consider that Wigley followed Sturrock!!!! (and who followed Wigley???) then my oh my, it was a torrid time for managerial choices at SMS. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 Luggy is a great manager in the lower leagues. The trouble is in the higher leagues his somewhat old school approach does not cut it with the premier players and their big egos. For this as much as anything his appointment ahead of Hoddle was a disaster at SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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