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For those who don't know MLT said

 

"Wally downes in 11th hour out of court settlement with Nicola cortese, surprise surprise"

 

Wonder if those people who bashed Cortese the other day will now say the same about Matt? Yeah didn't think so....

 

My personal opinion is that with every remark like this the more i think MLT just needs to go away now. It doesn't do anyone any good having a public feud. It is petty and stupid. Stop using the media/social networking to snipe. Great player but needs to grow up.

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Are we SURE that that really IS MLT's twitter account? I read on another board that it might be a fake. The entries on it just seem a little too contraversial to be MLT. 'He's' just got some abuse for posting the Downes thing and has responded 'I only report facts not lies' which sounds a bit more like the sort of response you would get from a internet forum regular than MLT.

 

I'm not convinced it's him.

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Are we SURE that that really IS MLT's twitter account? I read on another board that it might be a fake. The entries on it just seem a little too contraversial to be MLT. 'He's' just got some abuse for posting the Downes thing and has responded 'I only report facts not lies' which sounds a bit more like the sort of response you would get from a internet forum regular than MLT.

 

I'm not convinced it's him.

 

It's his. His son, Mitch, confirmed.

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The club made several offers to Wally for an out of court settlement, it then went right up to the day with Wally refusing each one, right up to the point of the hearing at which point the club raised the offer which was then accepted by Mr Downes.

 

what ever it was about the sacking the club clearly did not want it to come out.

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Didn't Rupert Lowe also spend a lot of money to keep ex employees quiet?

 

I'm sure he probably did, i doubt Wally Downes leaving is that big an issue, but as it ties in with Pardew perhaps the details behind that and the confidentiality agreement Pardew signed would be put as risk by a hearing going through a public court.

 

Wally would have signed an agreement in exchange for the cash, so guess we'll never find out what happened, until one day they write a book many years from now.

 

fairly irrelevant in the context of the current season, but interesting for those who take an interest in the "behind the scenes" politics at the club.

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Confirmed via another unconfirmed twitter aco**** you mean?

 

If you type in Mitchell Le Tissier twitter into google you get a different account to the one linked to that MLT one...

 

www.twitter.com/mitch91

 

That's his old account. He hasn't used it since July 2010. This is his new one: http://twitter.com/#!/MitchLeTiss42

 

I can't confirm that that's Mitch's actual account, but you would have to be incredibly sad to create a fake account based on Matt's son. It sure does look like it's his...

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For those who don't know MLT said

 

"Wally downes in 11th hour out of court settlement with Nicola cortese, surprise surprise"

 

 

i think MLT just needs to go away now. It.

 

as someone who grew up wishing i could be Le Tissier i hope he never ever goes away from the club, he is and always will be a legend.

his opinions may or may not be right, but he is entitled to air them, and if they unsettle other people you should ask why rather than censor him.

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every time I hear another bitter and pathetic soundbite from Le Tiss it takes a tiny little bit of shine off my hero. Unfortunately this string of events pops into my mind when I think of Matt now which is awful really as previously he could do no wrong in my eyes.

 

Its such a shame, as they both care about the club, but they are both seriously damaging their own reputations for little point really.

 

Cortese dosent have the same worship from me, but my admiration for him also wanes a little with every snipe.

 

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It is on twitter that Wally Downes in the 11th hour agrees an out of court settlement with Nicola Cortese? Anyone shed any light on this? I guess it is to do with his sacking when AP left?

 

Can only be the settlement of his contract, can't it???

 

I've heard that some are paid up in full immediately, others just run and keep getting paid on a monthly basis (sure I can remember one manager saying, "Spurs are paying me each month to play golf"), others stop when the person gets another job and others are settled through offers and counter offers.

 

Can only assume Wally wasn't happy with our initial offer(s) and was pushing for more even though he got a job at West Ham????

 

As for Matty sticking his oar in, not necessary and only continuing this needless squabble (with a caveat re the above assuming that it is him on Twitter).

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as someone who grew up wishing i could be Le Tissier i hope he never ever goes away from the club, he is and always will be a legend.

his opinions may or may not be right, but he is entitled to air them, and if they unsettle other people you should ask why rather than censor him.

 

I agree he was a legend and we all loved him !

Also it's not an opinion but fact !

 

But what possible purpose does it serve to tweet such a snide remark - It demeans him !

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That's his old account. He hasn't used it since July 2010. This is his new one: http://twitter.com/#!/MitchLeTiss42

 

I can't confirm that that's Mitch's actual account, but you would have to be incredibly sad to create a fake account based on Matt's son. It sure does look like it's his...

 

Why would a person set up a second twitter account in their name if they already had one? Makes no sense.

 

And that MLT account seems mainly to contain arguments with Saints fans which I would think it highly unlikely that Matt would get involved with. It's also funny that has never sent a tweet to any of the Sky crew (Stelling has a twitter account)

 

I think it's a FAKE.

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Can only be the settlement of his contract, can't it???

Depends if he negotiated a fixed-term contract - you rarely see news articles on club websites heralding the contract extension of a member of backroom staff, so it may be that he was employed on a full-time salaried basis (like most employees in most other industries) rather than a fixed-term contract.

 

My assumption is that Downes brought a claim for wrongful dismissal and the club has ultimately settled out-of-court. I believe a number of former SFC employees went down the same route last year and the club eventually offered them all a suitable settlement, coincidentally also the day before the hearing.

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For those who don't know MLT said

 

"Wally downes in 11th hour out of court settlement with Nicola cortese, surprise surprise"

 

Wonder if those people who bashed Cortese the other day will now say the same about Matt? Yeah didn't think so....

 

My personal opinion is that with every remark like this the more i think MLT just needs to go away now. It doesn't do anyone any good having a public feud. It is petty and stupid. Stop using the media/social networking to snipe. Great player but needs to grow up.

 

Sorry whats MLT done wrong here? I assume his tweet is a fact (if it's a lie I'll stand corrected). OK the surprise surprise bit was a little snide but I've read far worse said about NC on here than that.

 

I've tried to stay away from the whole MLT/Nc thing up to now but i'm not sure MLT tweeting a fact about the club that will no doubt be common knowledge soon is reason for him to go away.

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as someone who grew up wishing i could be Le Tissier i hope he never ever goes away from the club, he is and always will be a legend.

his opinions may or may not be right, but he is entitled to air them, and if they unsettle other people you should ask why rather than censor him.

 

Sorry but i totally disagree. Le Tiss was a legend footballer. But being a legend does not give you the right to spout off to the media every 5 minutes and expect people to agree with you simply because you played football.

How is it that only MLT is the vocal legend? What about all the other ones i.e 76 team? Don't hear them taking pops everytime they speak to the media do you? What i meant by going away is that he should realise things have changed now, the club has moved on. It sucks that he can't get a free ticket but is it really worth the fallout? I am pretty sure most sane people would much rather we had a club then give 1 guy a free ticket no matter what he did in the past. MLT needs to shut up now and stop taking pot shots. It just seems he can't let it go, the question you have to ask is why? If he cares so much about it then he would go about it the right way. The way he is doing it is not the right way at all.

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Why would a person set up a second twitter account in their name if they already had one? Makes no sense.

 

And that MLT account seems mainly to contain arguments with Saints fans which I would think it highly unlikely that Matt would get involved with. It's also funny that has never sent a tweet to any of the Sky crew (Stelling has a twitter account)

 

I think it's a FAKE.

 

if your right I wonder if some will leave off MLT?

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Sorry but i totally disagree. Le Tiss was a legend footballer. But being a legend does not give you the right to spout off to the media every 5 minutes and expect people to agree with you simply because you played football.

How is it that only MLT is the vocal legend? What about all the other ones i.e 76 team? Don't hear them taking pops everytime they speak to the media do you? What i meant by going away is that he should realise things have changed now, the club has moved on. It sucks that he can't get a free ticket but is it really worth the fallout? I am pretty sure most sane people would much rather we had a club then give 1 guy a free ticket no matter what he did in the past. MLT needs to shut up now and stop taking pot shots. It just seems he can't let it go, the question you have to ask is why? If he cares so much about it then he would go about it the right way. The way he is doing it is not the right way at all.

 

It was the Liebherrs representative that dug all this up. Yet people like you forget that. And people like you also discard our club legend at the drop of a hat.

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That certainly is Le Tissier's Twitter account.

 

He's talked about the match he's going to be covering on a Saturday before, as well as it being confirmed by his fellow SSN presenters on Twitter. Also, do you really think no one would have mentioned they were following him on twitter, or talked to him about something he'd tweeted at SSN? It'd have come out that it was a fake account pretty quickly a long time ago by Ed Chamberlain or another presenter saying something about it (and stopping following him).

 

That said, this is just a personal dispute being played out in public. Le Tissier, for what he's done in the past, will always be a legend to the fans. Le Tissier, despite not liking Cortese, is still a fan and will always want Saints to win. Cortese will be chairman for the forseeable future, and also wants Saints to win, and is the one in a position to do something about it.

 

Saints don't really come into it here, except for both parties being so heavily linked with the club. Both still are completely behind the club itself, it's just something they have to sort out between themselves.

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Wally Downes is probably laughing all the way to the bank, i wonder if it is the policy of most other football clubs to come to agreements with departing personnel not to release details of the circumstances of departure, and why the club would not want such details being in the public domain and therefore prepared to pay to keep it that way.

The Pardew saga does still have some questions marks over it.

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Sorry but i totally disagree. Le Tiss was a legend footballer. But being a legend does not give you the right to spout off to the media every 5 minutes and expect people to agree with you simply because you played football.

How is it that only MLT is the vocal legend? What about all the other ones i.e 76 team? Don't hear them taking pops everytime they speak to the media do you? What i meant by going away is that he should realise things have changed now, the club has moved on. It sucks that he can't get a free ticket but is it really worth the fallout? I am pretty sure most sane people would much rather we had a club then give 1 guy a free ticket no matter what he did in the past. MLT needs to shut up now and stop taking pot shots. It just seems he can't let it go, the question you have to ask is why? If he cares so much about it then he would go about it the right way. The way he is doing it is not the right way at all.

 

Bit he never asked for a free ticket !!

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Matt is a legend end of, and will always be loved 99.9% of the fans. If it wasn't for Cortese we may not have a club to talk about. THey both need to realise what the other has done for SFC and drop this silly feud, all its doing is dividing the fanbase again. Boys, if you have someone reading this forum, go out, have a beer, be friends.

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Are we SURE that that really IS MLT's twitter account? I read on another board that it might be a fake. The entries on it just seem a little too contraversial to be MLT. 'He's' just got some abuse for posting the Downes thing and has responded 'I only report facts not lies' which sounds a bit more like the sort of response you would get from a internet forum regular than MLT.

 

I'm not convinced it's him.

 

How difficult is it to 'take over' a twitter account? Just seems a bit strange that Matty stops using twitter, then suddenly starts again but just posts controversial stuff. I'm far from convinced its him.

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It was the Liebherrs representative that dug all this up. Yet people like you forget that. And people like you also discard our club legend at the drop of a hat.

 

What a load of ********. It isn't about being a legend or discarding him at a drop of a hat....It takes two to tango and Matt clearly wants to Tango with Cortese. Neither should be saying anything at all about the other.

Matt has spoken to the media countless times over the past year or so about Cortese. Has Cortese come out and actually insulted MLT in that time? I don't think so. What he said to the media the other day was not even an insult he simply said that there was a falling out. We all know that.

 

Matt took it as an insult, Jeff had his rant and that should of been it. Snide remarks on social networking/media are not going to fix things, they are going to make it worse.

My point is that no matter how much of a legend Le Tiss is he must be extremely thick in the head if he thinks slagging off the chairman of the club in the media is going to suddenly mean he gets free tickets. I

 

Matt seems to be taking every chance he get's to take digs. He sounds very bitter. Just because he scored 3 billion goals for us doesn't give him the right to basically throw a strop if he doesn't get what he wants then try and talk to the media/social networks.

 

It doesn't matter who started it it should only matter who ends it. After what Jeff said Cortese has not replied. Matt is continuing it. As i said above what purpose does that serve? What good can come from it?

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But is it really an insult? You'd have to be pretty thin skinned to get upset by that tweet ;)

 

Of course it is. Your or i would not be offended by it one bit but it is just another dig which keeps the feud bubbling. Just enough to remind you that they have issues.

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How difficult is it to 'take over' a twitter account? Just seems a bit strange that Matty stops using twitter, then suddenly starts again but just posts controversial stuff. I'm far from convinced its him.

 

It's one password, so depends entirely on the strength of the password being used. If he's used 'saintsfc' or 'password' then it's entirely possible someone could guess it.

 

Like I already said though, I can't believe no one at SSN would have talked to him about tweets he's made, especially so considering the subject, and that would mean that any tweets that weren't him would be revealed pretty quick.

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Of course it is. Your or i would not be offended by it one bit but it is just another dig which keeps the feud bubbling. Just enough to remind you that they have issues.

 

So that tweet is an insult, but Cortese's dig on Saturday wasn't.

 

Weren't you the one at the start of this thread asking for parity in repsonse. Practice what you preach.

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So that tweet is an insult, but Cortese's dig on Saturday wasn't.

 

Weren't you the one at the start of this thread asking for parity in repsonse. Practice what you preach.

 

I am practicing what i preach. Go read what i said. I said neither guys should be saying anything at all about each other as it serves no purpose at all. It is very selfish on both their parts. Saints fans do not want to read that kinda stuff. I am not taking sides i said Cortese was stupid for giving an interview and MLT is stupid for getting Jeff to have a pop and for taking a tiny dig on his twitter. Firmly in the middle where all fans should be imo.

 

Cortese's "dig" on saturday if you read it might not have been a dig. It was an interview with a paper. If you take that quote out of the interview he says something like "yes there is an issue with Matt and Lawrie". Confirming it in my eyes is not an insult. Just like if i asked you is your name Um Pahars and you said "yes my name is Um pahars". An acknowledgement of something is not necessary an insult.

 

Where as with his twitter there is no interview, his own words posted on his own account.

 

As i said before it is very petty. If Cortese comes out tommorow on his twitter if he has one and said something like "Heard Matt wanted free drinks at the golf event, surprise surprise" then i would say the same-thing. Both guys should not be talking about the other at all. No snide digs no nothing. Keep it to yourself or friendship circle. Putting it in the public domain is wrong.

 

At somepoint one of them has to be the bigger man and rise up and ignore it. Isn't that what you tell your kids when they call each other names and things? It is childish and should stop.

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That's his old account. He hasn't used it since July 2010. This is his new one: http://twitter.com/#!/MitchLeTiss42

 

I can't confirm that that's Mitch's actual account, but you would have to be incredibly sad to create a fake account based on Matt's son. It sure does look like it's his...

 

Sad people? On the internet? Nah, can't see it ever happening myself...

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I am practicing what i preach. Go read what i said. I said neither guys should be saying anything at all about each other as it serves no purpose at all. It is very selfish on both their parts. Saints fans do not want to read that kinda stuff. I am not taking sides i said Cortese was stupid for giving an interview and MLT is stupid for getting Jeff to have a pop and for taking a tiny dig on his twitter. Firmly in the middle where all fans should be imo.

 

Cortese's "dig" on saturday if you read it might not have been a dig. It was an interview with a paper. If you take that quote out of the interview he says something like "yes there is an issue with Matt and Lawrie". Confirming it in my eyes is not an insult. Just like if i asked you is your name Um Pahars and you said "yes my name is Um pahars". An acknowledgement of something is not necessary an insult.

 

Where as with his twitter there is no interview, his own words posted on his own account.

 

As i said before it is very petty. If Cortese comes out tommorow on his twitter if he has one and said something like "Heard Matt wanted free drinks at the golf event, surprise surprise" then i would say the same-thing. Both guys should not be talking about the other at all. No snide digs no nothing. Keep it to yourself or friendship circle. Putting it in the public domain is wrong.

 

At somepoint one of them has to be the bigger man and rise up and ignore it. Isn't that what you tell your kids when they call each other names and things? It is childish and should stop.

 

Difference being that would be a rumour/hearsay and the Wally Downes thing is a fact. It's not like MLT has made anything up.

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So that tweet is an insult, but Cortese's dig on Saturday wasn't.

 

Weren't you the one at the start of this thread asking for parity in repsonse. Practice what you preach.

 

All of this is handbags being played out in the media or twitter. It doesn't matter how offensive the comment is, it is the fact that they're making them that is the problem. They should either sort it out or STFU.

 

Cortese has a principle 'i.e. if I pay for my ticket, so should everyone else' - and personally (being an 'ordinary' fan) it's one I agree with. If you apply the spirit of that principle to other things (i.e. no favours be that freebies, preferential ordering etc.) then Matt and LM have fallen foul of it and that (in the past) has rankled them and they've been to the press (quite what they expected to achieve through that I don't know).

 

Unless we expect that principle to be changed (which, given NC's single mindedness on other issues, ain't going to happen), the best for ALL concerned is to keep quiet / no comment.

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I read Matty was out of order, end of, whilst Cortese was out of order, BUT......

 

Well that isn't how i meant it to sound. Both are wrong and both should get the same amount of criticism for it. Doesn't matter which one is right or wrong or who has done what for the club etc. They should be keeping it to themselves no matter what they say. Making it public just seems like they want people to try and take sides. I myself as a fan who goes to most games don't want to take sides, i want us all on the same side. To do that one of them has to stand up and say "you know what, this is childish and petty, i can't be bothered with it anymore". If one doesn't talk about it then neither will the other. By saying stuff like Matt has even though it is not much just keeps the feud bubbling as i said before.

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God, who cares. People need to get a life.

 

Exactly.

 

Cortese doesn't need to be popular. He runs the club his own way and, so far, he's done good job. We're top of the league and playing decent footy in front of bigger crowds than some Premiership teams. If he's annoyed a few sensitive souls, that's tough.

 

MLT is entitled to his opinion. Just accept that they don't see eye to eye, it doesn't matter.

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it is standard to pay off contracts.

The club decided it was worth paying off staff to get a new manager in.

That new manager delivered, justifying the expenditure.

The End

 

 

No need for anyone to retweet it unless they wanted to score cheap points.

So I hope it's a fake.

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