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SuperMikey
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Picture the scene:

 

I'm queueing for Oceana, absoutely gagging for a p!ss. I'm in the queue, right next to Oceana's sister bar, Woo Woo (they do c*cktails and the like). There's one of those rope barriers blocking the entrance to Woo Woo. I talk to a guy who's standing on the barrier, asking if I can go in quickly for a p!ss before I go into Oceana. He says he doesn't work there, and he's waiting for a mate. I say okay, look around for anyone that looks like they work there, and then duck under the barrier quickly. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a bloke in a dark suit appears and takes my name and the number on my ID card. He says i've been yellow carded for trying to get into a club without paying. I tell him politely that i've paid for a ticket to get into Oceana and show him my ticket, and that I was only trying to get into Woo Woo to go for a quick p!ss. He says that i've been yellow carded as a result (halway to a f*cking ASBO) and that I have to go home and have 0% chance of getting into Oceana tonight. I protest and say that he can follow me into the toilets if he likes, but he takes my name down in his little notepad, and tells me to go home. The guy said "Do you think you could get in without paying to go into Woo Woo?" to which I said "I have been into this place dozens of times without paying, they never charge on the door. I was only going to go to the toilet quickly, somebody can shadow me if they want". He was having none of that, and sent me on my way. I paid £4 (not too much for some of you, but more for others - including me) for a ticket to get into Oceana.

 

I am f*cking furious about this. They should have somebody on the barrier or at the very least some sign to say NO ENTRY to tell people that. I know that jumping the barrier is a bad idea, but I was desperate and only needed to go for a wee. If somebody had been there, I would have explained my situation to them. Nobody was there, and I assumed that I could go in quickly for a p!ss and jump out again without any incident occurring. There is no way I am accepting a Yellow Card for this, and I will take this all the way if I need to. Just trying to nip in somewhere for a p!ss should not mean that I get 50% of a f*cking ASBO.

 

Any advice? I will call the Citizens Advice Bureau if anything more comes of this. I'm not having this blemishing my record. I am f*cking raging right now - if you couldn't already tell.

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The bloke was obviously power tripping as well - one of my friends had forgotten her ID so I was waiting by the door with her while she sorted out what she was going to do and he came over and said "I don't know what you're still doing here, you're not getting in". I explained to him that I was waiting with my friend while she sorted out her ID and he told me to go home. What a c*nt. Never had a bad word to say against bouncers before, but this guy was a piece of sh!t. If you're ever at Oceana and you see a guy that looks like a fat version of Plan B with spikey hair, tell him he's a c*nt from me.

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This is fantastic life lesson for you Mikey. You cant go around demanding everything your way all the time. I know you are a pampered who at home had stamped his feet and sulked and mummy and daddy gave in to their precious little soilder not want to upset him but the real world doesn't work like that. I think the guy who yellow carded you has done a fantastic job. If everyone went around jumping barriers there would be anarchy. Round of applause to the fat plan B lookalike (not that you're bitter) for doing his job to the best of his ability. You will thank him one day for not bowing to your every whim.

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Anti-social behaviour is taken very seriously and Cheshire East works closely with the police to tackle such disturbances. This issue is a priority and we are committed to reducing the level of anti-social behaviour and improving the quality of life across the area for all residents and businesses.

A co-ordinated response is provided to tackle the bad behaviour of individuals, which includes educating offenders and making sure that they know what anti-social behaviour is and how it affects other people.

Young Person Notification forms are used to steer young people away from disorder and crime. A 'Yellow Card' is completed by wardens and officers when they seize alcohol from groups of under age drinkers or disperse young people who are causing a nuisance. Cheshire East Anti-Social Behaviour Unit then sends a “We think you ought to know” letter to parents. If the same name comes up on a second occasion the parents are sent a 'Final' letter. After that, a Police Officer will visit the family or the case will go to a multi-agency panel to decide on a plan of action.

However, if this fails, enforcement action is taken which may include Acceptable Behaviour Contracts (ABCs) and more seriously Anti-Social Behaviour Orders (ASBOs).

ABCs are voluntary written agreements between a person who has been involved with anti-social behaviour and one or more of the enforcement agencies whose role it is to prevent such behaviour. ABCs are most commonly used for young people but may also be used for adults. They offer support to individuals and give them the opportunity to change their behaviour.

ASBO's were introduced under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998. They are community based orders that involve local people in the collection of evidence and the enforcement of breaches. The orders place serious restrictions on the lives and individuals for a minimum of two years. Breaching an ASBO is a criminal offence and carries a maximum prison sentence of five years

 

 

LOL..... Never heard of this before. I would have thought anyone dishing out yellow cards in Southampton would get a quick slap

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Gobby teens falling out with bouncers. Whatever next. You should have discreetly flashed your bracelets to show him what a hardcore raver you are.

 

Not wearing my bracelets anymore Dune, had to take them off for work. Surely we've been through this?

 

What would have happened if you refused to give him your name??

 

Don't know, but he was obviously power tripping as his notepad already had 7 or 8 names in it by 11pm so i'm sure he could have done anything.

 

You should have gone to wee-wee before you left the house. Next time remember to or you'll be sent to the naughty step.

 

I had 3 or 4 before I left the house, but I had drunk 3l in an hour and then had a long-ish cab ride and queued for 10 minutes before getting over the barrier.

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This is fantastic life lesson for you Mikey. You cant go around demanding everything your way all the time. I know you are a pampered who at home had stamped his feet and sulked and mummy and daddy gave in to their precious little soilder not want to upset him but the real world doesn't work like that. I think the guy who yellow carded you has done a fantastic job. If everyone went around jumping barriers there would be anarchy. Round of applause to the fat plan B lookalike (not that you're bitter) for doing his job to the best of his ability. You will thank him one day for not bowing to your every whim.

 

Great post, but in the time it took you to write, couldn't you have done something worthwhile? Saved a few war orphans, read a book, helped your elderly neighbour out etc.

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Don't know, but he was obviously power tripping as his notepad already had 7 or 8 names in it by 11pm so i'm sure he could have done anything.

 

I just would never have given him my name, simple as that. I can't work out what right he has to compel you to give him your name (even the police under a S60 don't have the right to take your name).

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Not wearing my bracelets anymore Dune, had to take them off for work. Surely we've been through this?

 

This is the first i've heard of it. Making you remove your bracelets is right up there with racism and homophobia. If you were a muslim and were ordered to remove your head attire the said employers would be taken to the cleaners for blatant discrimination. I would suggest you write to the BBC and ask if you can put your grievance to the next question time panel.

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I just would never have given him my name, simple as that. I can't work out what right he has to compel you to give him your name (even the police under a S60 don't have the right to take your name).

 

I should have refused tbh, but at that point I didn't care - I just wanted to go for a p!ss... He thought he was head of the f*cking FBI though, jumped up little c*nt.

 

This is the first i've heard of it. Making you remove your bracelets is right up there with racism and homophobia. If you were a muslim and were ordered to remove your head attire the said employers would be taken to the cleaners for blatant discrimination. I would suggest you write to the BBC and ask if you can put your grievance to the next question time panel.

 

Fight the power man, fight the power. This is a blatant violation of my human rights and i'm not going to stand for it. I will go to Parliament with this if you come with me and hold my hand Dune, keep me strong.

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Fight the power man, fight the power. This is a blatant violation of my human rights and i'm not going to stand for it. I will go to Parliament with this if you come with me and hold my hand Dune, keep me strong.

 

I'm guessing you are working in a fast food establishment. This could be difficult. Have you suggested inserting a metal strip to your rubber bracelets or just wearing the blue ones?

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I wouldn't worry about yellow cards. It is in no way half way to ASBO unless they decide you are a special case. I've had them before, and people I know have had more than one.

 

Cheers mate, didn't know too much about what it was and the bloke was acting like it was a big deal. I'll let that one go then.

 

I'm guessing you are working in a fast food establishment. This could be difficult. Have you suggested inserting a metal strip to your rubber bracelets or just wearing the blue ones?

 

None of my bracelets were rubber, they were all fabric and they all had metal strips on them already. I work in a restaurant, not a fast food place though. You have to guess which one now.

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To be honest, it was only ever underage drinking for me and my friends. I imagine if we were actually harassing people they might have gone through to actual punishment.

 

This not the sort of behaviour one would expect of a budding Liberal Democrat and wannabe question time audience member. Very very disapointed.

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Wait, was it a police officer who gave you a yellow card/slip?! Pretty sure bouncers have no authority in ASBO area.

 

No, it was the bouncer on the door. He said something about reporting me for a yellow card, he didn't give me one. Scare tactics, but it still p!ssed me off to no end!

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I hang my head in shame - but that's the only place that people were going last night. All of my mates ended up there, I had to go home on my todd.

 

Why didn't they follow you out in protest? Sound like ****s to be fair, considering they were already in that gash hole that is Oceana.

 

If you want, you can come to Brixton Academy for Toolroom Knights with me tomorrow. Will be a great night.

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A "yellow card" in Southampton just means you are halfway to a 12 month ban from any establishments that are part of the scheme. Nothing to do with an ASBO or whatever.

 

He definitely said ASBO, but that makes a lot more sense. Still a p!sstake though (no pun intended).

 

Why didn't they follow you out in protest? Sound like ****s to be fair, considering they were already in that gash hole that is Oceana.

 

If you want, you can come to Brixton Academy for Toolroom Knights with me tomorrow. Will be a great night.

 

They were already inside, I went to get some cash out and then this whole thing happened. My other friend was already outside looking for her ID, so we got a cab back to hers and I walked home from there.

I'll go to Brixton with you as long as you promise not to spike my drink this time, roofies really make you feel like sh!t the next day...

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This not the sort of behaviour one would expect of a budding Liberal Democrat and wannabe question time audience member. Very very disapointed.

 

Boo hoo, Clegg burnt down a Greenhouse full of rare cacti. Cameron did weed and trashed restaurants... Miliband did errrr....

 

We all stuff like when we are young.

 

And I know you are trolling me.

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Mikey, it won't happen again, I've 'had a word' with fat bouncer man.

 

Next time you want to take a pee he will hold your penis as compensation thus negating the need for you to wash your own hands, can't say fairer than that mate.

 

Hope you're not working in Franky and Benji's, I never go in that place.

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Im more worried by the admission that he's "been to Woo Woos dozens of times!"

 

En route to Oceana! No need to worry Jonny m'lad.

 

Hope you're not working in Franky and Benji's, I never go in that place.

 

Thankfully not - i'm working in the Harvester next door. Not exactly 'superior' like Dune suggests, but it's decent enough. Got paid 500 smackeroos for this month!

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I hang my head in shame - but that's the only place that people were going last night. All of my mates ended up there, I had to go home on my todd.

 

then they are not your friends dump them immediately have no more contact with them infact you should start rumours about them

 

and never ever go somewhere that has bouncers on the door

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It's true what has been said about the 'door staff' at Oceania. I was there a month or so ago for a stag night. My son (who is 26) was stone-cold sober, (it was 7.30 and we had just arrived) nipped out to get some cash from the hole in the wall. He slipped on some ice cream someone had spilt, got up, got his money and when he tried to get back in was told he was barred for the night because he had fallen over and therefore was drunk. No amount of discussion would get the bouncer to change his mind and it ruined the night for everyone.

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It's true what has been said about the 'door staff' at Oceania. I was there a month or so ago for a stag night. My son (who is 26) was stone-cold sober, (it was 7.30 and we had just arrived) nipped out to get some cash from the hole in the wall. He slipped on some ice cream someone had spilt, got up, got his money and when he tried to get back in was told he was barred for the night because he had fallen over and therefore was drunk. No amount of discussion would get the bouncer to change his mind and it ruined the night for everyone.

 

Bouncers can be proper ****s. I got kicked out of a Lloyds bar once for tripping over a bottle someone had dropped on the floor.

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