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Pilchards

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We should be bringing in a half decent loanee.

We are top of the league and a attraction to develop some of these frozen out premiership players plus we have the money now.

A part of me is slowly regretting being overjoyed in the Oxy money as that guy would of destroyed any team in this league.

 

Don't leave it too late Adkins as I want to push on.

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Last night was the first time this season (and since he's been fit) that I've thought we could really do with him. That's testament to the players that have been doing well, however he gave us that electric pace we now severely lack and he would scare the sh!t out of a lot of teams in the Championship.

 

Maybe Nigel should just go mental and bung Jake Sinclair up front with Lambert for a game. Could be a masterstroke.

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Last night was the first time this season (and since he's been fit) that I've thought we could really do with him. That's testament to the players that have been doing well, however he gave us that electric pace we now severely lack and he would scare the sh!t out of a lot of teams in the Championship.

 

Maybe Nigel should just go mental and bung Jake Sinclair up front with Lambert for a game. Could be a masterstroke.

 

Could be a good shout

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We should be bringing in a half decent loanee.

We are top of the league and a attraction to develop some of these frozen out premiership players plus we have the money now.

A part of me is slowly regretting being overjoyed in the Oxy money as that guy would of destroyed any team in this league.

 

Don't leave it too late Adkins as I want to push on.

 

Yes.

 

We have issues up front, where we've either run out of steam or been sussed out, and a persistent issue at the back.

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Remeber it has only been the last two games that we have looked really suspect at times. And as the earlier poster said the concern would be if we were not creating chances which we are. If anything we need to be more clinical. Had we been we would have completely stuffed both burnley and Cardiff. No need panic yet.

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Remeber it has only been the last two games that we have looked really suspect at times. And as the earlier poster said the concern would be if we were not creating chances which we are. If anything we need to be more clinical. Had we been we would have completely stuffed both burnley and Cardiff. No need panic yet.

 

Great point. Before these last two games youd think the squad could do no wrong.

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Who?

 

Again I don't get the 'don't leave it too late Adkins'. Surely we're not assuming he's just not bothering? If he thought there was someone he could get today who'd help us I'm sure he'd do it ASAP.

 

what about that young kiddy that scored for Arsenal in the champions league this week

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Mackie is on the comeback trail for QPR - proven in this division and will get more games for us than QPR until January so they could ease him back in through us.....at worse he'll get 20-30 minutes at the end of each game to replace Connolly and would be straight in if anyone got injured.

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Yes.

 

We have issues up front, where we've either run out of steam or been sussed out, and a persistent issue at the back.

 

Yes, we desperately need to bring in a new signing, and especially a forward.

 

We are only top of the league, with the most goals scored and the best goal difference.

 

We are clearly not performing nearly well enough!!!

 

(Hand in face thingy.)

 

By the way, to you and Pilchards, as Adrian asked, WHO should we bring in? Who is this mysterious prem player that has been left out of his team's 25 man squad that would come straight into our first team and improve it?

 

And, of course, who do you want to see dropped from our first team and match-day squad? Who is not good enough, in your opinion?

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And personally IMO if we'd had Lallana AND Chamberlain starting every game this season, we'd have won the lot.

 

From what I've seen if Lambert's heading was a bit more decent in the last few matches we'd have won the lot as well.

 

De Ridder is a more than adequate replacement for Chamberlain, and he hasn't even started a league game yet.

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We genuinelly need a striker with pace. Often Lambert holds the ball up, or Richardson gets forward yet no-one seems to be there in the box to run onto it or nip into the box.

 

Can't disagree with that though, and as I've said a few times, De Ridder loses out when he's in the middle getting battered compared to his successes out wide when he has control of the ball before the defenders get near him. Maybe we should be looking at coaching De Ridder to play centrally a little more like Connolly, who always seems to be facing the goal when he gets the ball (but no longer has the pace to get clear of defenders) or lays it off quickly to keep the move going.

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Who?

 

Again I don't get the 'don't leave it too late Adkins'. Surely we're not assuming he's just not bothering? If he thought there was someone he could get today who'd help us I'm sure he'd do it ASAP.

This.

 

 

Adkins is no idiot, he'll know what to do and who, if anyone, to bring in and i'm sure Cortese will back him to the hilt. I think we'll see a loan or two but it wont be until during the international break.

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Think that any player who we sign on loan now could play right up until 1st of jan which would mean that we could in theory sign a player permanently ( loan with agreement to buy )

 

Think might just be waiting another 7 - 10 days to find out how barney gets on with the judge

Barnard has nothing to do with it, there is no way he will be locked up, its ridiculous to suggest it.
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Problem with bringing in a loan player (I'm assuming you mean a striker) is as soon as they come in they displace one of De Ridder/Chaplow from the bench, which in turn knocks Barnard down the order as he's coming back soon enough and god knows where that leaves Forte. Whether we believe Forte is good enough, having him at the club that far down is pointless so until he gets a loan out, someone can't come in.

 

While on the face of it we might seem to have a lack of strikers, we actually don't. We have Barnard coming back, De Ridder who can play up there, Guly too. Versatility in abundance really. Holmes, Chaplow etc, and our young players which we seem intent on bringing through all need to be given an opportunity before we bring someone in who isn't going to be here on a long term basis.

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The 5 sub rule has sent us tits up in that regard. Can't really stick a kid on the bench any more in the hope that we can bring them on if we are far enough ahead (For example Chamberlain against Huddersfield) and it means big squads seem even bigger and players like Holmes are now only seen in League Cup games.

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Problem with bringing in a loan player (I'm assuming you mean a striker) is as soon as they come in they displace one of De Ridder/Chaplow from the bench, which in turn knocks Barnard down the order as he's coming back soon enough and god knows where that leaves Forte. Whether we believe Forte is good enough, having him at the club that far down is pointless so until he gets a loan out, someone can't come in.

 

While on the face of it we might seem to have a lack of strikers, we actually don't. We have Barnard coming back, De Ridder who can play up there, Guly too. Versatility in abundance really. Holmes, Chaplow etc, and our young players which we seem intent on bringing through all need to be given an opportunity before we bring someone in who isn't going to be here on a long term basis.

 

The 5 sub rule has sent us tits up in that regard. Can't really stick a kid on the bench any more in the hope that we can bring them on if we are far enough ahead (For example Chamberlain against Huddersfield) and it means big squads seem even bigger and players like Holmes are now only seen in League Cup games.

 

Completely agree with all of this.

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We should be bringing in a half decent loanee.

We are top of the league and a attraction to develop some of these frozen out premiership players plus we have the money now.

A part of me is slowly regretting being overjoyed in the Oxy money as that guy would of destroyed any team in this league.

 

Don't leave it too late Adkins as I want to push on.

 

he has left it to late. I was expressing your sentiments by mid June.

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It's not about the goals we HAVE scored, it's about the goals we have YET to score. We need a striker loan in - we're quite weak in strength in depth up front. Yes, we have players that can play there, but we need an out and out goalscorer to come in - as we're top, as the OP says, what better time to bring in someone of real quality until January.

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Who?

 

Again I don't get the 'don't leave it too late Adkins'. Surely we're not assuming he's just not bothering?

If he thought there was someone he could get today who'd help us I'm sure he'd do it ASAP.

 

 

Hey Adrians,

YES Jake Sinclair.....are you one of the guys who said ...Theo ..who ? ..a few seasons ago ?

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Hey Adrians,

YES Jake Sinclair.....are you one of the guys who said ...Theo ..who ? ..a few seasons ago ?

 

I don't think Adrian was asking who Jake Sinclair is; I think he was asking, as I did, 'who this premier league hot-shot gauranteed to score shed-loads more for us than anyone currently on our books' is that we should be signing now, even though he can't get into/isn't named in his parent team's squad (as, after all, we are only the divisions top goal scorers and with the highest goal difference - so we clearly need someone and it won't at all upset the apple-cart by dropping one of the guys who has been doing the business for us so far to bring in this player on a short term basis - according to some).

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Problem with bringing in a loan player (I'm assuming you mean a striker) is as soon as they come in they displace one of De Ridder/Chaplow from the bench, which in turn knocks Barnard down the order as he's coming back soon enough and god knows where that leaves Forte. Whether we believe Forte is good enough, having him at the club that far down is pointless so until he gets a loan out, someone can't come in.

 

While on the face of it we might seem to have a lack of strikers, we actually don't. We have Barnard coming back, De Ridder who can play up there, Guly too. Versatility in abundance really. Holmes, Chaplow etc, and our young players which we seem intent on bringing through all need to be given an opportunity before we bring someone in who isn't going to be here on a long term basis.

 

We have a weakness brought about by not having a good striker with pace, not all the time but occasionally against the top sides. As it's already been shown it is very difficult for us to go out and buy that striker, even for the vastly over price we are prepared to play. In the Premier it may be different, but then we are looking a grade higher. When Connolly came back last season, he showed us exactly what we had been lacking and IMHO, why we did so well in the run up to 2nd spot. This campaign has wore him down a bit but I can't see Lee being a better option than Connolly. Ricky has improved markedly this season, but I don't see Lee making that jump, delighted if he proves me wrong.

 

So what do you do, keep searching for that quality that will be good enough for the Premier, then try and talk him in to coming to Saints? Get a decent loan player in from the Premier, not exactly what we are after but will most likely get us promoted. Or take a chance on someone like Matty Fryatt who will improve your chances of promotion, but maybe not so certain. It's a very difficult predicament and the Premier loan is the stand out unless the scouts can unearth a gem.

 

I don't believe Beattie is an option when I keep hearing Adkins go on about not blocking the young players and any player being the right type. Beattie has been behind a couple or more bits of unrest in the dressing room and I am sure that has not gone unnoticed. When you look at how far the club has progressed recently with this harmony, it's very doubtful that will be risked unless the player really has something to offer. Beattie I am sure will have approached us about using our facilities and training and the fact he is not doing that makes me believe the answer is NO. I imagine Beattie is still drawing a salary from his last club, which will disappear if he signs for another. So there will be a balancing act going on there over wages.

 

I can understand not going for Beattie, but paying £50k a week for a very good loan would make a lot of financial sense to Cortese in the window, should we be well placed. Even now would not be illogical, but I don't believe that's the way he wants to go with the club.

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Yes, we desperately need to bring in a new signing, and especially a forward.

 

We are only top of the league, with the most goals scored and the best goal difference.

 

We are clearly not performing nearly well enough!!!

 

(Hand in face thingy.)

 

By the way, to you and Pilchards, as Adrian asked, WHO should we bring in? Who is this mysterious prem player that has been left out of his team's 25 man squad that would come straight into our first team and improve it?

 

And, of course, who do you want to see dropped from our first team and match-day squad? Who is not good enough, in your opinion?

 

Hear hear !!!!!! Well said that man!

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Why are we talking about filling a position now that we already knew needed filling back in May ? Would it not have been worthwhile paying a little bit over the odds to get to the Premier League ?

 

Why are you such a "See You Next Tuesday"?

 

Good god enjoy the moment if you know how????

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Why are we talking about filling a position now that we already knew needed filling back in May ? Would it not have been worthwhile paying a little bit over the odds to get to the Premier League ?

 

Surely you mean so we could finish above 17th in this season's Championship?

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I agree we need an extra striker, if we lose Lambert to injury we're in dire straits.

We have nobody who can replace him

 

With Adkins, he wants to the right man, not just the right player

We've seen with Jos Hooiveld how quickly he's become part of our team, that's not just due to Jos himself, it's also due to the brilliant management of NA, and the atmosphere he's created here

So, any new striker will have to be real quality, but a good personality too

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It's obvious we need a striker, we've only got 25 goals and we've only got Barnard, Connolly, De Ridder, Forte in reserve, the trouble is there is no ambition at the Club, NC out, I say

 

Interesting that up until the transfer deadline Adkins also thought we needed a striker in (so he obviously had major concerns about our strike force and cover for them). Along with a centre half it appeared to be our main priority and with the bids for Rodrigues it also appeared that we were willing to spend big.

 

Given our decent start, he may of course have changed his mind, but by the same token it may still be a key area for him to strengthen.

 

If anything, given our fantastic start I would imagine it may have even hardened Adkins' resolve to bolster our forward line as if we are to capitalise on this great start then I would argue De Ridder (more of a wide man) & Forte (not up to it???) aren't best suited to play up front and there are question marks over Barnard (injury, off the field issues and ability at this level).

 

An injury or suspension to the main two/three (Lambert, Connolly & Guly) and we start to look a little lightweight.

 

As Adkins alluded to in that interview, getting the right person in isn't easy, but I don' think he would have spent all summer looking to strengthen his options if he also didn't have doubts.

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