Cardiff 2 - 1 Saints - Post Match Reaction

[Sour Mash]

I'm with you 100%. I'm bored of our impatient fans who scream at players when they are comfortable on the ball.

 

We pass the ball well.

 

Last night one player made a mistake playing the ball out - and held his hands up. He was under no pressure and just hit a poor pass.

 

Apaprently now we're top of the league we have to go back to the long ball. Tell you what, let's see if Pardew want his old job...

Were you at Cardiff or Burnley? It didn't work. Teams have worked us out and close it off easily.

[Dr Who?]

Blimey we have fans still posting then, because after last night I though most on here were going to kill themself!!

 

We should not give up on the way we play, just because we lost a game. Stick to our style of play through thick and thin. COYRS!!!!

[Legod Third Coming]

Were you at Cardiff or Burnley? It didn't work. Teams have worked us out and close it off easily.

 

And yet Barcelona and Arsenal have been doing it for what ten years quite effectively??

Is that because no one's noticed...

 

If we could have finished a ham sandwich this week, this conversation would be irrelevant.

[Dr Who?]

Just a bad patch, but if it carries on for a few more games I am sure Adkins will take a look at things and change slightly, but not give up the passing football just because we have missed a few chances in the last two games. You watch we will take someone apart soon, and all will be great again.

 

Been worked out? If only it were that easy we would have plenty of 0-0 draws, and football would be boring, and if anything the Championship is the most open and exciting league there is!!

[doddisalegend]

Surely the long ball/passing out at the back isn't an either/or situation. Ideally I'd like to see a bit of both to keep the opposition guessing. It's surely comes down to Kelvin making the right choice. It seems that Kelvin will persist with the short ball even when it's not on.

 

This reminds of last season after hudders away we dropped the playing out from the back after that mauling and then slowly re-introduced it but balanced it out with long balls too.

[scotty]

You missed the 4-1 demolition of Birmingham then?

 

There is one truism in football. If you pass the ball to a colleague in space the opposition cannot score.

 

No, I didnt miss it, I was in 38, and as I recall it the closest we came to conceding (apart from the goal) started from a short pass from Kelvin that got closed down.

 

And to Chez, I'm not having a pop, I said that if you read through this thread (and the other recent post match threads for that matter) almost everyone but you is saying the same thing, the short ball out just isnt working. Make of that what you will.

[Legod Third Coming]

No, I didnt miss it, I was in 38, and as I recall it the closest we came to conceding (apart from the goal) started from a short pass from Kelvin that got closed down.

 

And to Chez, I'm not having a pop, I said that if you read through this thread (and the other recent post match threads for that matter) almost everyone but you is saying the same thing, the short ball out just isnt working. Make of that what you will.

 

I think what you've identified is exactly right, Kelvin's selection sometimes leave a lot to be desired!

[derry]

Adkins has it right, possession football is the way to go. If that is the way we are going to play in the long term we are going to have to get in a goalkeeper who doesn't delay the pass until there are only poor options left. Teams that successfully pass out from the back usually have a slick passing goalkeeper. It is easy to see why most managers have had Davis playing it long.

[shurlock]

contrary to what most others are saying on here I hope we continue to pass it short out from the back. Swansea did it to great effect last season and they got caught several times along the way, but in the long run it was worth it. They starved opponents of possession and they were able to dictate games and create the kind of opportunities in front of goal that they wanted, not hoped for. Saints fans are complaining about losing it in a dangerous area, but they are not seeing the benefits it brings. Some of you nou need to relax a bit and see that Morgan, Hammond and Cork are more than capable of taking the ball with their back to goal and get moves going. OK so every now and then we overdo it, but not much.

 

I agree playing from the back can be very effective but its a case of mixing it up - I think it works better in the second half against teams as they tire and don't press as hard (as per Leicester).

 

It also depends on how the midfield is performing - its easier to do when we are dominating the middle or have some pace in the team and as a result the opposition is backing off. Neither yesterday or at Burnley did we truly establish a foothold and the opposition felt confident pressing us higher up the pitch.

 

In Nige's own words, we have to establish the right to play - and we haven't quite done that enough in recent games.

[Charlie Wayman]

Sounds of deflating and bursting bubbles. Bet there a re a few very depressed souls on here this week.. Clearly it didn't go to plan, why would it? Plenty of NPL managers are far from being idiots; if Adders can change tactics to deal with how the Oppos play of the day so can they.

 

Sat is a big test now, screw that up and it'll be 1 from 9 with huge impact on team morale

[alpine_saint]

Sounds of deflating and bursting bubbles. Bet there a re a few very depressed souls on here this week.. Clearly it didn't go to plan, why would it? Plenty of NPL managers are far from being idiots; if Adders can change tactics to deal with how the Oppos play of the day so can they.

 

Sat is a big test now, screw that up and it'll be 1 from 9 with huge impact on team morale

 

Yep, we must get back on track and prove NA has not been sussed out.

[Chez]

what's all this `sussed out' ********? Were we sussed out at Leicester? No, we were just beaten. Losing games doesn't mean your tactics were neccessarily wrong. Poor application, hard luck...there's lots of reasons for losing. Actually when I think about it Millwall `sussed us out' more than most, but we still won that game. Can you say the tactics were right that day because we won or did we just finish well?

[Legod Third Coming]

what's all this `sussed out' ********? Were we sussed out at Leicester? No, we were just beaten. Losing games doesn't mean your tactics were neccessarily wrong. Poor application, hard luck...there's lots of reasons for losing. Actually when I think about it Millwall `sussed us out' more than most, but we still won that game. Can you say the tactics were right that day because we won or did we just finish well?

 

This is exactly right. How many games have you seen (ours and others) where teams have destroyed the opposition but still lost or drawn??

 

It's not because they have been found out, but as you point out, because of individual error, poor finishing an/or bad luck. From the highlights I've seen and commentary heard of both away games, our play deserved better than the bare results.

[Neil]

From the highlights I've seen and commentary heard of both away games, our play deserved better than the bare results.

 

I think we got exactly what we deserved at Cardiff on Wednesday. Ok the chances were there and were missed (as they will be from time to time), but it was our sloppiness bordering on complacency that was our downfall.

 

And the dogmatic approach to always passing out from the back. We need to learn lessons in how to play away from home, as we're offering encouragement to teams who aren't particularly good. Cardiff were there for the taking, and we should have kept a clean sheet without any difficulties.