Roger Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Adkins was keen to get him here bt was keen. Cortese vetoed it. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Adkins was keen to get him here bt was keen. Cortese vetoed it. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 If NC has vetoed a BT chance I see that as a bit of incentive to BT to get out there & get super fit so that NA can say hang on a minute this lad is looking good Surely having a BT style player ( big powerful lump ) would be an asset especially with Rickie too often pulling out to the wing if he had a target to aim at who isn't 5'8 & about 9st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tickle Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 She was fit, my mates were envious, great **** and lovely to have on the arm whilst also pleasing to the eye. She dumped me for a richer bloke, he had his attractions but wasn't all that. He had enough and moved on. She then went on to one fella to the next after he got bored, her looks faded and she was lonely. I on the other hand went through some sad times but have turned the corner. The future looks bright and I'm on to a good thing. She called me the other week saying she had made a big mistake. My response...."Go f uck yourself!"* Beattie to return??? No thanks!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Adkins was keen to get him here bt was keen. Cortese vetoed it. End of. WOW! You have spoken to both our CEO and our manager! You must be really ITK as there has nothing be mentioned in any interview either have given to substatiate this. Since you have these close relationships can you give us any other insights into the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Chairman vetoed something normal thing to do for a chairman .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Adkins was keen to get him here bt was keen. Cortese vetoed it. End of. How the hell would you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Doubt this is true ...but Makes me laugh - EVERY chairman up and down the country Veto some enquiries re players from the management staff ... usually for financial reasons, but also a variety of others, at 33 Beats hardly fits into the development squad or teh model we have adopted... but hey lets pretend taht NC is somehow unique and very bad because he is doing his job.. Change the thread title to: Cortese makes a decision that is part and parcel of his role andd responsibilty shocker! (would at leasr make it more accurate) ....FFS, there are some mongs/feckwits on here at times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Connolly isn't exactly a spring chicken either. Don't think Beatts can be excluded on age alone. You need two things in any great employee. First, a degree of competence. Second, they have to care about what they're doing. Haven't asked him myself, but I get the distinct impression that Beatts loves the club. So the only real question mark is whether he's going to be competent enough in the Championship. Despite the "no thanks" crowd voicing their opinions on another BT thread, the truth is that very few people know whether Beatts can still cut it. Ultimately, if Nige says he's good enough then that's good enough for me. Little bit disappointing to see so little respect for a former striker who bagged a lot of goals for us, and looks like he has passion for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutwood2 Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Totally agree with you, Pap. What do we have to lose? Nothing. Give him a go and if he can't cut the mustard anymore, then 'thanks but no thanks.' If he can, then. 'welcome back.' It's a funny old world isn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Connolly isn't exactly a spring chicken either. Don't think Beatts can be excluded on age alone. You need two things in any great employee. First, a degree of competence. Second, they have to care about what they're doing. Haven't asked him myself, but I get the distinct impression that Beatts loves the club. So the only real question mark is whether he's going to be competent enough in the Championship. Despite the "no thanks" crowd voicing their opinions on another BT thread, the truth is that very few people know whether Beatts can still cut it. Ultimately, if Nige says he's good enough then that's good enough for me. Little bit disappointing to see so little respect for a former striker who bagged a lot of goals for us, and looks like he has passion for the club. I liked Beattie a lot when he was with us and personally would give him a short contract if fit, but I think you're conning yourself if you think he loves the club. Very few footballers 'love' any club. It's their job. Do you love the firm you work for? In Beattie's case , I'm sure he would indeed like to play for us again, IF the wages meet his idea of what he is worth. But that would be mostly because his wife's family live nearby, not because he loves Saints. If the skates offered him a contract I'd be amazed if he didn't accept that, very nearly as willingly as he'd accept one with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Beattie loves the club! Don't make me laugh, he is living in Southampton and it is the easiest option for him, apart from us being top of the league. He had no problem walking away or sticking the ball in the back of our net for Everton. Time to move on and bring in a striker along the lines of those already bid for. He might do a job for us but his last two years have been dire including failing at the best club in a very poor Scottish League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 I liked Beattie a lot when he was with us and personally would give him a short contract if fit, but I think you're conning yourself if you think he loves the club. Very few footballers 'love' any club. It's their job. Do you love the firm you work for? I do love the firm I work for. Should do really - it's my own. That said, there have been other companies that I've really enjoyed working for, and have gone back and done further work for them. So in answer to your question, of course it's possible to love working for a particular set of people. If a company is doing the right things, looks after their staff in the right way, shows the proper appreciation and has the right vision, it's difficult not to get caught up with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Beattie loves the club! Don't make me laugh, he is living in Southampton and it is the easiest option for him, apart from us being top of the league. He had no problem walking away or sticking the ball in the back of our net for Everton. Time to move on and bring in a striker along the lines of those already bid for. He might do a job for us but his last two years have been dire including failing at the best club in a very poor Scottish League. Yes, he put the ball in our net for Everton because he was a professional and that was his job. He didn't celetrate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Beattie loves the club! Don't make me laugh, he is living in Southampton and it is the easiest option for him, apart from us being top of the league. He had no problem walking away or sticking the ball in the back of our net for Everton. Time to move on and bring in a striker along the lines of those already bid for. He might do a job for us but his last two years have been dire including failing at the best club in a very poor Scottish League. If Beattie doesn't love the club, he sure as $hite loves the area. He brought the entire Everton squad to Southampton for their christmas night out FFS. His wife is from here and he no doubt has happy memories of spending his best days here too. I seem to remember he did have a problem scoring against us for Everton as well. His natural instinct after scoring was to celebrate and then it appeared he remembered who he was playing against and the celebrations from him abated. If living in this area with his family makes him happier in his private life, maybe that will be reflected in his performances and commitment on the pitch. Even Strachan has gone on record to say that to get the best out of Beatts, you need to get him fit and engaged. Perhaps Adkins is the man to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Isn't Beattie the same age as Drogba ???? so we wouldn't want to sign Drogba then because he's passed it. If someone can still do a job (I'm not saying Beattie can or can't) then they deserve a go Gary Speed was still a great player at 40. If Murty is training with us and getting fit then lets allow Beattie to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 (edited) Beattie loves the club! Don't make me laugh, he is living in Southampton and it is the easiest option for him, apart from us being top of the league. He had no problem walking away or sticking the ball in the back of our net for Everton. Time to move on and bring in a striker along the lines of those already bid for. He might do a job for us but his last two years have been dire including failing at the best club in a very poor Scottish League. I don't believe in going back to the past and therefore was very sceptical, Dave. It was the thought that we haven't got any cover for RL that gave me a small temptation. I'm glad to hear that NC says "no". He is obviously convinced that Saints today is a different Saints, and he doesn't want any questions about that appearing. Since Beatts hasn't done anything in football for several years, and is in his mid thirties,he is bound to be in poor shape, and underneath the bravado with poor self confidence to boot. Sitting on the bench waiting for RL to be injured isn't going to improve his form, fitness or confidence. Interesting idea, but "no" seems a very good answer. Edited 28 September, 2011 by Clifford Nelson Cr*p grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 I would be prepared to give Beattie a trial with a view to a short term contract, providing his attitude was right and Nige could be given time to get his fitness improved as he did with Lambert. He may be 33 but at Championship level he could succeed. Look at Phillips at Blackpool (I know he is a different style of striker) but he is banging them in for Blackpool and he is 38! With regards to his attitude, I'm sure he if he brought is big balls opinion along he would be shown the door very quickly. Adkins would not stand for it as was shown when Puncheon was quite rightly told to bugger off. It probably depends if Beattie has got a little older and a little wiser and realises he can no longer walk into a first 11 and would need to work very hard to get into the starting team. Form wise he didn't impress at Everton, Rangers or Blackpool and sometimes a player is not able to settle at a club for a thousand different reasons. Look at Delap. Was an average player for us but at Stoke he has been superb for them. Beattie had his best form at Saints so maybe it is worth giving him a chance to rekindle that old spark? He would certainly give cover should Lambert get injured or need to be rested. At the end of the day Adkins and Cortese will make the decision and it is up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Since Beatts hasn't done anything in football for several years, and is in his mid thirties,he is bound to be in poor shape, . You know that for a fact? Match fit possibly not but not fit? Really? The important thing to remember about Beattie which was pointed out to me by a lovely old fella in the Chapel End one sunny Saturday afternoon when he quite seriously said 'have you noticed that Beattie's second touch is always a tackle?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 The important thing to remember about Beattie which was pointed out to me by a lovely old fella in the Chapel End one sunny Saturday afternoon when he quite seriously said 'have you noticed that Beattie's second touch is always a tackle?' What a brilliant line! Another one for my gigantic "I wish I'd said that" book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Beattie loves the club! Don't make me laugh, he is living in Southampton and it is the easiest option for him, apart from us being top of the league. He had no problem walking away or sticking the ball in the back of our net for Everton. Time to move on and bring in a striker along the lines of those already bid for. He might do a job for us but his last two years have been dire including failing at the best club in a very poor Scottish League. And how exactly did he celebrate? Ah, he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 And how exactly did he celebrate? Ah, he didn't. Exactly. I believe he loves Southampton FC. The fans loved him when he was on form, and in retrospect, his time here was the best period of his career to date. Say what you like about Beatt's fitness, but to suggest that he only has a professional relationship with the club and its fans is way wide of the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Beatts off to Forest end of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Yes, he put the ball in our net for Everton because he was a professional and that was his job. He didn't celetrate it. And then went absolutely beserk when Bent equalised in the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 Beattie does not LOVE this club. and to carry on this camp tradition in this thread.. END OF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 28 September, 2011 Share Posted 28 September, 2011 And how exactly did he celebrate? Ah, he didn't. He bloody well did....and then he remembered himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benali Saint Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 Yes, he put the ball in our net for Everton because he was a professional and that was his job. He didn't celetrate it. But he did celebrate Evertons late equaliser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 This - remember this game well - scored and raised his arms like half way up and then took them down.. And the he jumped onto Bents back when he scored the winner - lost my respect for mr.Beatts there..... He bloody well did....and then he remembered himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 What a brilliant line! Another one for my gigantic "I wish I'd said that" book. To be fair, I doubt the bloke in the Chapel invented it, I heard someone say it in the early 90s about a teammate of mine, and have been using it fairly regularly since. I wouldn't really say it was a fair criticism of Beattie either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 This - remember this game well - scored and raised his arms like half way up and then took them down.. And the he jumped onto Bents back when he scored the winner - lost my respect for mr.Beatts there..... Absolutely. I remember it well as he was only about 5 meters directly in front of me when he hit that strike. He ran off to celebrate then after a few paces stopped, just as his team mates piled on top of him. And after Bent scored the equaliser the first man on his shoulders in front of the away end was James Beattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 Yeah Beattie loves this club, Thats why on Soccer am a couple of weeks ago he said that he would sign for Pompey! As for someone comparing Beattie and Drogba lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 Yeah Beattie loves this club, Thats why on Soccer am a couple of weeks ago he said that he would sign for Pompey! As for someone comparing Beattie and Drogba lol No he didn't. See this is how rumours start. And nobody was comparing Beattie to Drogba. They used Drogba (who is the same age as Beattie) to make the point that someone should not be discounted simply because of their age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 I don't think the attitude would be a problem - I think Beatts has been and done his superstar thing, wised up and is now just desperate to be involved somewhere for one last adventure. Coming back to the club that gave him his big break and play a role in a promotion challenge would be such a sweet deal that he would be permanently eating out of our hand with gratitude. So far from being a disruption, I think would be a positive force in the dressing room -he's an exuberant, vocal character and always stands up to be counted - a great character to have as the season progresses and we invariably hit sticky patches. Of course, all this assumes he's match fit - but if he is, I think he still has something to offer. We need somebody who can lead the line, go direct, rough up defenders (and bury easy headers). My only reservation is the signal it gives Barney - its a shame he has been injured and not been able to prove himself at this level (it would matter less if Beatts was a different player; but there are similarities between the two). Holloway agrees http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/brave_beattie_plays_on_despite_death_of_his_dad_1_3122816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 No he didn't. See this is how rumours start. And nobody was comparing Beattie to Drogba. They used Drogba (who is the same age as Beattie) to make the point that someone should not be discounted simply because of their age. Er yes he did, Max asked him if he would sign for them, to which he said yes i could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 Er yes he did, Max asked him if he would sign for them, to which he said yes i could. Yes he could. He could sign for Barcelona. Whether he actually would is an entirely different matter! Besides, making a flippant remark in a studio means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 WOULD you sign for them? YES i could. If he loved our club this would of been a straight NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 Yes he could. He could sign for Barcelona. Whether he actually would is an entirely different matter! Besides, making a flippant remark in a studio means nothing. Hypo could admit he's wrong, whether he actually would... ahh you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 29 September, 2011 Share Posted 29 September, 2011 He couldn't get near a ****-poor Rangers side which speaks volumes. No thanks. So our centre half who couldn't get near the Celtic team is fine though is it???????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 WOULD you sign for them? YES i could. If he loved our club this would of been a straight NO Did ball love our club? Did any of the others who played for both clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 Yes, he put the ball in our net for Everton because he was a professional and that was his job. He didn't celetrate it. And how exactly did he celebrate? Ah, he didn't. He didn't celebrate his goal, however in the dying moments of that game Bent scored a last gasp winner. How did Mr Beattie react? I wouldn't say he didn't enjoy playing for us but I'd take his insistance (announced to the fans/media pre-game) that he wouldn't celebrate with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 According to Solent this morning, Adkins is quoted as saying that there has been no contact between Saints and Beattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 WOULD you sign for them? YES i could. If he loved our club this would of been a straight NO Boll*cks. If it's his only option of a club of course he'd have to sign for them. Expensive cars cost a lot to run.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 According to Solent this morning, Adkins is quoted as saying that there has been no contact between Saints and Beattie. It's in the Adkins interview on the OS...no contact either way. Never mind...it's been mass-debated over here hasn't it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sensible Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 Beattie clearly left because the club was dissappearing up its own backside, which was later proven to be the case. So far as playing for Pompey, I don't think he's got the qualities to follow in the footsteps of Channon and Stokes! I'd take him back. Yes, he may have had a bad time lately, but he knows what he's doing, would come relatively cheap, and would more than likely do a good job. End of the season contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 According to Solent this morning, Adkins is quoted as saying that there has been no contact between Saints and Beattie. No that can't be right, doesn't fit with how the club is being run, Cortese must of made him say this!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 And how exactly did he celebrate? Ah, he didn't. He didn't celebrate his goal, however in the dying moments of that game Bent scored a last gasp winner. How did Mr Beattie react? I wouldn't say he didn't enjoy playing for us but I'd take his insistance (announced to the fans/media pre-game) that he wouldn't celebrate with a pinch of salt. He didn't???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 Yeah Beattie loves this club, Thats why on Soccer am a couple of weeks ago he said that he would sign for Pompey! Think I'm catching up with Andy Cook over the next week, I'll ask him what he makes of your little rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 Think I'm catching up with Andy Cook over the next week, I'll ask him what he makes of your little rant. Clank. Let me pick that name up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 September, 2011 Share Posted 30 September, 2011 Clank. Let me pick that name up for you. Bless him (and I'd say this in front of him), but Cooky is not really name dropping!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 1 October, 2011 Share Posted 1 October, 2011 http://img.ly/8XHu Look who's taking in the game today. Looking nice and smart too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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