Cortese out to sink the Ex-Saints Charity?

[Torrent Of Abuse]

Thank **** we're top of the table instead of mid-table. God knows the amount of petty back-biting we'd get if we weren't top and playing good football.

[S-Clarke]

Great post Crab's, all that needs to be said really.

[LGTL]

Great post Crab Lungs.

[Dig Dig]

From this very thread, post 91.

 

 

 

And it hardly constitutes much effort on the club's behalf to promote upcoming ex-Saints events on the website or in the matchday programme, as they've previously been more than happy to oblige with.

 

I'm not saying that it does constitute much effort. But the decision not to support it is clearly not new news. From an ex-saints perspective, they must clearly know what the reaction will be, unless there is something concrete which suggests otherwise.

[The Kraken]

I'm not saying that it does constitute much effort. But the decision not to support it is clearly not new news. From an ex-saints perspective, they must clearly know what the reaction will be, unless there is something concrete which suggests otherwise.

 

I've not ever said it's news. What I have said is that I find it very disappointing that the club and the charity are not working together. If you read the website of the Ex-Saints, their opening line is:

 

"The Ex Saints enjoy a close relationship with Southampton FC and have an affiliation agreement with the club."

 

That clearly isn't the case any longer, but it used to be. It's an excellent charity, and as I've said, the spat that is driving a wedge between the two will only harm both parties in the long run.

[Bearsy]

But had a quick click on the Saints Foundation website. I am in no doubt they do some very fine work, but who are the three listed ambassadors for this Saints charity?

 

Nicola Cortese.

 

Saints legend Iwan Thomas.

 

Other Saints legend Chris Tremlett.

 

And nobody else at all.

 

Trying to see how this is relevant... Are you suggesting Cortese is out to sink the Ex-Saints Charity so that he can steal their best ambassadors?

 

Sneaky devil!

[Dig Dig]

I've not ever said it's news. What I have said is that I find it very disappointing that the club and the charity are not working together. It's an excellent charity, and as I've said, the spat that is driving a wedge between the two will only harm both parties in the long run.

 

It won't harm the club. We're top of the league and your average fan on the street would most likely be done the wiser. If it's charity we're all concerned with, our club is generating over 300k per year for various charities.

[Thedelldays]

Outside of this place and the UI. You would not have a clue anything was said

 

 

Tested this at work this morning. I mentioned that the chairman does not get on with MLT. No one had a n f-ing clue what I was on about and not one person cared (in a football sense)

[CB Fry]

Trying to see how this is relevant... Are you suggesting Cortese is out to sink the Ex-Saints Charity so that he can steal their best ambassadors?

 

Sneaky devil!

 

Maybe, never thought of that!

 

My point is, if one had a complete blank sheet of paper and one was creating a charitable foundation wholly connected to the club, I am not convinced that for 99% of normal fans, the names of Iwan Thomas and Chris Tremlett would be first on the list for the ambassodorial roles.

 

Local sportsmen from other fields, yep fine. Get on board. Even local celebrities and notables, yep, get Chris Packham and the drummer from coldplay on board. It's good to go beyond just ex-players.

 

But wouldn't you think it would be something approaching normal to have one notable ex-player, or ex-manager on there? And no, not neccessarily them, but someone?

 

It looks like an aching gap to me. For whatever reason.

 

 

And before the cult of Cortese squinnying bedwetters go ballistic, I don't really care either way. It's just a very odd gap that I doubt Rupert Lowe, for example, would have got away with.

[Crab Lungs]

And another thing.. if anyone thinks Cortese is out to purposefully negatively affect or impact the.lives of people less fortunate them himself then that's just sad. How shallow to best him with a rumour that has no credibility whatsoever.

That's the lowest of the low using a charity as an excuse to peddle an agenda then again, I'm boy surprised with the crap on here anymore

[buctootim]

Outside of this place and the UI. You would not have a clue anything was said

 

 

Tested this at work this morning. I mentioned that the chairman does not get on with MLT. No one had a n f-ing clue what I was on about and not one person cared (in a football sense)

 

My brother and sister and season ticket holders and similarly totally disinterested in the made up politics.

[The Kraken]

It won't harm the club. We're top of the league and your average fan on the street would most likely be done the wiser. If it's charity we're all concerned with, our club is generating over 300k per year for various charities.

 

If former club legends are being publicly disenfranchised with the club then, in an indirect way it could hurt the club, in particular with corporate/hospitality sales. Corporate sales such as the Ambassador's Lounge previously relied upon former club legends being in attendance to boost sales; the high number of empty corporate seats at the moment suggest this is already a problem.

[Dig Dig]

If former club legends are being publicly disenfranchised with the club then, in an indirect way it could hurt the club, in particular with corporate/hospitality sales. Corporate sales such as the Ambassador's Lounge previously relied upon former club legends being in attendance to boost sales; the high number of empty corporate seats at the moment suggest this is already a problem.

 

It may have temporary impacted corporate sales, I haven't a clue if it has or hasn't. But assuming this is correct, I can't see if being a long term issue for the club. There will be other ways to drive sales then the appearance of a p i ssed up legend.

 

Ultimately, all these issue's between the club and former players/legends are only really known to a very small percentage of Saints fans. Even less will actually care.

 

If you think that it's shame and concerns you then fair enough but the club don't stand to lose in the long term. The great thing about football is that history is made as you go.

[JRM]

If it's true then yes, I would be surprised to hear that the club chairman has completely cut ties with a charity who the club have supported for many years, simply because of a personal spat with two of that charity's members. If it were all true, I would suggest that it smacked of abject pettiness, considering the history of that charity.

 

abject pettiness is one of cortese's primary features, his banning of the echo over reporting the training ground developments a good example.

[warsash saint]

Don't wish to add fuel to the flames, but was at the game yesterday & from conversations I had, I can certainly back up the OP. Not saying I agree either way, but OP message was what I was told.

[The Kraken]

It may have temporary impacted corporate sales, I haven't a clue if it has or hasn't. But assuming this is correct, I can't see if being a long term issue for the club. There will be other ways to drive sales then the appearance of a p i ssed up legend.

 

Ultimately, all these issue's between the club and former players/legends are only really known to a very small percentage of Saints fans. Even less will actually care.

 

If you think that it's shame and concerns you then fair enough but the club don't stand to lose in the long term. The great thing about football is that history is made as you go.

 

I think you do the Ambassador's Lounge a complete disservice to describe as just being filled by p*ssed up legends. I had the fortune of going in just once when it was hosted by Lawrie Mac and can comfortably say it was the most enjoyable day I've ever had at St. Mary's. I've also done the coporate boxes and Channon Suite and they didn't come close in comparison. And if, like you say, there are other ways to drive corporate sales then I'm surprised they're not already being done, as we must be missing out on significant revenues with the amount of empty seats waiting to be filled by the simple implementation of a sales strategy.

 

You're right that no-one knows the actual ins and outs of the situation; I certainly don't. I guess that's why I've resisted going too far into any accusations or anything, just registering my disappointment that the two entities cannot work together. You're right, history is made as you go; but I prefer to go along with the notion of "You've got to know where you've been to know where you're going."

[Dig Dig]

I think you do the Ambassador's Lounge a complete disservice to describe as just being filled by p*ssed up legends. I had the fortune of going in just once when it was hosted by Lawrie Mac and can comfortably say it was the most enjoyable day I've ever had at St. Mary's. I've also done the coporate boxes and Channon Suite and they didn't come close in comparison. And if, like you say, there are other ways to drive corporate sales then I'm surprised they're not already being done, as we must be missing out on significant revenues with the amount of empty seats waiting to be filled by the simple implementation of a sales strategy.

 

You're right that no-one knows the actual ins and outs of the situation; I certainly don't. I guess that's why I've resisted going too far into any accusations or anything, just registering my disappointment that the two entities cannot work together. You're right, history is made as you go; but I prefer to go along with the notion of "You've got to know where you've been to know where you're going."

 

Well, I would be surprised if the boxes and lounges are empty this time next season.

 

Your experience sounds far more enjoyable than mine btw.

 

All I'm saying is, in the long run, the club won't lose out in the fall out of this. For every one fan who would pay to see LM, in a few years, there will 10 more who would rather see Rickie Lambert.

[St Marco]

Noticed the other thread on there he made "14th worst defence in the division!"......"we have got found out at the back".....such a nice positive place that one.

[Jez]

I'm not saying Cortese is perfect, I'm not saying he hasn't made mistakes but some you really, really don't know how lucky we are to have him. If you think there is anyone out there who is (a) remotely interested (b) as capable as Cortese © can guarantee continued success then I'd love to hear who those people are.

 

His abrasive way is going to rub some people up the wrong way and rightly or wrongly, he bandied two ex-Saints into the same category as the freeloaders who probably have very tentative links with us. It's a mistake, it's happened and up until the silliness of the weekend, it appeared things had turned a corner and bridges were being built.

 

What I cannot fathom is the fan-on-the-board, protest/whinge/always-know-best brigade who surface every time there is a bit of controversy (in their heads, mostly) with a chairman. Half the time, you don't hear a peep from this ****heads until they've been given, in their sad little world, a justifiable reason to squinny like little girls because they don't agree with something. Additionally, they can't be reasoned with as they are always right, irrespective of anyone else's viewpoint. If Lowe did something right, it's wrong. If Wilde did something right, it was wrong. If Crouch did something right, it was wrong and if Cortese does something right, it's wrong - the same applies if any of the previous or current incumbents do anything wrong. Actually, that's the worst case scenario - they really get their little frillies in a twist over that.

 

If you want drama, watch a f()cking soap, or better still, go down either side of the city and hang around with those whingy f()cksticks. Just when we've finally, after years of turmoil, freeloading, debt and worry - turned it around, we find a small section of our fanbase crying into their milk and stomping on their digestives over programme covers, car park charges and the like. It's pathetic, truly f()cking pathetic. Typical know-it-all's who always have a solution for everything. The type of know-it-all who probably looked over the first Ted Bates statue and gave themselves a nice pat on the back for being such a "nice person".

 

Then we've got the attention-seeking tubthumping fan-on-the-board types who love a good drama. Stringing out small-ish problems and hear'say into large, volatile threads because they heard someone who heard someone else who farted the message which the dog heard from someone else who was walking their dog in the park. Stoking and hypothesising over dark forces, agendas and laying the seeds of doubt among others in the fanbase - just to grab that little slice of attention and hold dominion over a shallow, pointless conversation on the internet.

 

He's not f()cking pefect, far from it - but who is? He's done a great job so far and if he's isolated a few wet-willied, lily-livered cry babies than so be it. I'll question Cortese's ability when he does something truly horrendous and heinous. At the time of writing, he has not so shut the f()ck up whining and enjoy one of our best teams, managers and form in years before it all goes to sh1t and you've really got something to protest about.

 

The bold bit was my favourite part of that, although it was all well said.

Name no names eh?

[Hamilton Saint]

I don't believe anyone who's spelling is so sh!t.

 

Oh, dear ...

[SaintBobby]

I have a few charities I support.

 

And a couple of Saints players I might be able to persuade to back them.

 

Can I have some free advertising and use of the Saints logo, please?

[The Kraken]

I have a few charities I support.

 

And a couple of Saints players I might be able to persuade to back them.

 

Can I have some free advertising and use of the Saints logo, please?

 

Yes, good analogy, that's entirely the same thing.

[egg]

I think I read somewhere else that Williams played. He coaches the academy with Dodd. Why would the club allow one to play and not the other - makes no sense to me, so I will file thus one under "boll ocks"

[SaintBobby]

Yes, good analogy, that's entirely the same thing.

 

Yes. It is.

 

Unless you want some rule that a Benali or MLT backed charity gets special treatment.

 

I love those two guys...but I hate the assumption of some cosy, nepotistic, golf clubby deal.

[Avenue Saint]

Copied and pasted form a thread on the UI site. Yet another example, if any where needed, of just what sort of sad individual is running our club.

 

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_mb.php?m=v&t=37204#64

 

Why dont all you lot just **** off??

[The Kraken]

Yes. It is.

 

Unless you want some rule that a Benali or MLT backed charity gets special treatment.

 

I love those two guys...but I hate the assumption of some cosy, nepotistic, golf clubby deal.

 

The ex-Saints charity pre-dates MLT and Benali being on its committee. It has, for a long number of years, enjoyed the support of the club and received help with promotion of many of its events down the years. And as a charity that raises money for former players such as Kevin Moore, there is obviously the footballing link with the past and the current club setup, so there's clearly a natural synergy between the two.

 

Many other clubs see fit to support their former players' associations, whether it be by allowing programme space, promotional pages on their official websites, and allowing use of the club crest to promote their events. If you don't think it's a shame that we used to do all these things but have now seemingly decided to cease all of that, then we have vastly differing views of the situation.

[SaintBobby]

The ex-Saints charity pre-dates MLT and Benali being on its committee. It has, for a long number of years, enjoyed the support of the club and received help with promotion of many of its events down the years. And as a charity that raises money for former players such as Kevin Moore, there is obviously the footballing link with the past and the current club setup, so there's clearly a natural synergy between the two.

 

Many other clubs see fit to support their former players' associations, whether it be by allowing programme space, promotional pages on their official websites, and allowing use of the club crest to promote their events. If you don't think it's a shame that we used to do all these things but have now seemingly decided to cease all of that, then we have vastly differing views of the situation.

 

Yes, we do have very different views, then.

 

I think the Saints foundation is excellent and community, rather than ex-player, based.

 

good luck to ex-saints, but I don't think they merit any special favours.

[The Kraken]

Yes, we do have very different views, then.

 

I think the Saints foundation is excellent and community, rather than ex-player, based.

 

good luck to ex-saints, but I don't think they merit any special favours.

 

I don't see a reason why we can't have both. The Saints Foundation is an excellent and worthy organisation. The Ex-Saints have also done some great work down the years. the two are not and never have been in competition with each other, there is room for both (Aston Villa are a perfect example, on their website you will find promotion of Acorns, "Villa in the Community" and their former players' association).

 

It can be done; it has been done in the past. I find it a shame it isn't now, especially given that the Ex-Saints have also extensively supported the club in the past.

 

We'll agree to disagree, I guess.

[SaintBobby]

I don't see a reason why we can't have both. The Saints Foundation is an excellent and worthy organisation. The Ex-Saints have also done some great work down the years. the two are not and never have been in competition with each other, there is room for both (Aston Villa are a perfect example, on their website you will find promotion of Acorns, "Villa in the Community" and their former players' association).

 

It can be done; it has been done in the past. I find it a shame it isn't now, especially given that the Ex-Saints have also extensively supported the club in the past.

 

We'll agree to disagree, I guess.

 

Yep.

 

No offence meant to you at all.

 

But I much prefer the club being focused on community activity than ex-player activity.

 

Both could be done, but I'd rather 100% was put into the former.

[hypochondriac]

Yes, we do have very different views, then.

 

I think the Saints foundation is excellent and community, rather than ex-player, based.

 

good luck to ex-saints, but I don't think they merit any special favours.

 

Special favours I agree, but if they have been actively discouraging employees from helping out? I find that very disappointing if true.

[SaintBobby]

Special favours I agree, but if they have been actively discouraging employees from helping out? I find that very disappointing if true.

 

I'd find it marginally disappointing if true.

 

only marginally.

[eelpie]

Copied and pasted form a thread on the UI site. Yet another example, if any where needed, of just what sort of sad individual is running our club.

 

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_mb.php?m=v&t=37204#64

 

Have you actually contacted Cortese to ascertain if this is true?

[1976_Child]

The original post on U.I. was from Nick Illingsworth

 

HTH

 

would not surprise me a bit. He is a sour twisted little runt of a man and has nothing good to offer our club. Never has, never will.

[dubai_phil]

Never been a big fan of the American Therapy culture.

 

But these past few days or so this forum appears to have provided ample scope that maybe the NHS needs to broaden the free availbility of that service, and probably make it mandatory in a number of cases.

[1976_Child]

Never been a big fan of the American Therapy culture.

 

But these past few days or so this forum appears to have provided ample scope that maybe the NHS needs to broaden the free availbility of that service, and probably make it mandatory in a number of cases.

 

eh?

 

To whom do you refer? Or has the desert sand addled your brain....

[manji]

I'm not saying Cortese is perfect, I'm not saying he hasn't made mistakes but some you really, really don't know how lucky we are to have him. If you think there is anyone out there who is (a) remotely interested (b) as capable as Cortese © can guarantee continued success then I'd love to hear who those people are.

 

His abrasive way is going to rub some people up the wrong way and rightly or wrongly, he bandied two ex-Saints into the same category as the freeloaders who probably have very tentative links with us. It's a mistake, it's happened and up until the silliness of the weekend, it appeared things had turned a corner and bridges were being built.

 

What I cannot fathom is the fan-on-the-board, protest/whinge/always-know-best brigade who surface every time there is a bit of controversy (in their heads, mostly) with a chairman. Half the time, you don't hear a peep from this ****heads until they've been given, in their sad little world, a justifiable reason to squinny like little girls because they don't agree with something. Additionally, they can't be reasoned with as they are always right, irrespective of anyone else's viewpoint. If Lowe did something right, it's wrong. If Wilde did something right, it was wrong. If Crouch did something right, it was wrong and if Cortese does something right, it's wrong - the same applies if any of the previous or current incumbents do anything wrong. Actually, that's the worst case scenario - they really get their little frillies in a twist over that.

 

If you want drama, watch a f()cking soap, or better still, go down either side of the city and hang around with those whingy f()cksticks. Just when we've finally, after years of turmoil, freeloading, debt and worry - turned it around, we find a small section of our fanbase crying into their milk and stomping on their digestives over programme covers, car park charges and the like. It's pathetic, truly f()cking pathetic. Typical know-it-all's who always have a solution for everything. The type of know-it-all who probably looked over the first Ted Bates statue and gave themselves a nice pat on the back for being such a "nice person".

 

Then we've got the attention-seeking tubthumping fan-on-the-board types who love a good drama. Stringing out small-ish problems and hear'say into large, volatile threads because they heard someone who heard someone else who farted the message which the dog heard from someone else who was walking their dog in the park. Stoking and hypothesising over dark forces, agendas and laying the seeds of doubt among others in the fanbase - just to grab that little slice of attention and hold dominion over a shallow, pointless conversation on the internet.

 

He's not f()cking pefect, far from it - but who is? He's done a great job so far and if he's isolated a few wet-willied, lily-livered cry babies than so be it. I'll question Cortese's ability when he does something truly horrendous and heinous. At the time of writing, he has not so shut the f()ck up whining and enjoy one of our best teams, managers and form in years before it all goes to sh1t and you've really got something to protest about.

Great post. One thing though its "fanontheboard".

[dune]

The funny thing is, it comes from the UI, and they have no axe to grind with Cortese whatsoever do they.....

 

Nick Illingsworth isn't allowed a season ticket and he's asked for an explanation but as far as i'm aware has been ignored. Do you think that is ok?

[dune]

Can we at least make sure that this thread doesn't descend in to the disgraceful knocking of the Ex Saints Charity that happened last time around it was used as a political football by some to score some cheap points.

 

It's a great little charity, doing great work for many years and is certainly a positive with regards the local community and the Club itself.

 

As for this current piece of tittle tattle, well for me it's just the next round in this pointless and unnecessary feud.

 

Nutshell. The way these so called adults are behaving is very damaging. As chairman Nicola Cortese should, imho, grow up and make the first move to healing things.

[offix]

3 pages on such an asinine post? LOL

[sadoldgit]

Good to see that free speech is alive and well on this board. Just because we are doing well doesnt mean we can't have this debate. If it was Lowe it would be fine. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

[alpine_saint]

*sighs*

 

I despair at an element of our fan-base.

 

They seem to want a return to the comfy, under-achieving, unambitious, parochial b*ll*cks we endured during the 15 years preceeding MLs buying of the club.

 

WHY ?????

[alpine_saint]

Good to see that free speech is alive and well on this board. Just because we are doing well doesnt mean we can't have this debate. If it was Lowe it would be fine. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

 

And what an obsessed dork you are.

 

I knew you wouldnt be able to comment without mentioning HIM...

[miserableoldgit]

Good to see that free speech is alive and well on this board. Just because we are doing well doesnt mean we can't have this debate. If it was Lowe it would be fine. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

The problem is that you don`t generally get "debate" on these threads. The OP wasn`t put up for debate. It was posted by an agenda-driven poster who will post anything that makes his evil nemesis look bad. Sadly, because of the reason that d_p posted you just get pro`s and anti`s, with entrenched views throwing insults at each other. That is not debate.

[dune]

And what an obsessed dork you are.

 

I knew you wouldnt be able to comment without mentioning HIM...

 

There was nothing wrong with SOG's post.

[dune]

The problem is that you don`t generally get "debate" on these threads. The OP wasn`t put up for debate. It was posted by an agenda-driven poster who will post anything that makes his evil nemesis look bad. Sadly, because of the reason that d_p posted you just get pro`s and anti`s, with entrenched views throwing insults at each other. That is not debate.

 

Agenda driven = doesn't share your view. Welldone for debating so well.

[Frank's cousin]

Good to see that free speech is alive and well on this board. Just because we are doing well doesnt mean we can't have this debate. If it was Lowe it would be fine. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

 

That's the thing, its the same old same old who kicked and screamed and refused to ever acknowledge that Lowe ever did anything remotely positive... only with him we suffered on the pitch as well. What is saddest in all this is that these posters who process to 'care' so much about MLT, LM, Ex-Saints and of course the club, really on care about themselves and their pathetic little egos. This is all about an agenda, a clear dislike for anyone who runs teh club with a strong usiness ethic and not in teh wway that pleases them all the time. Sniping criticising at every opportunity often based on nothing more than speculation and rumour, never bothering to find out the facts because the TRUTH is not necessary to add fuel to their own vendettas. Of course no one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes, but when I see this constant immature, and cowardly sniping, without bothering to state the reasons behind their hatred for a bloke (the real reasons that is) itsonly natural to try and defend it. I defended some of Lowe's more often than not because of the same reasons. Arrogant arse that he was, some the decisions had logic, but of course that is never acknowledged because it does not serve their agenda.... same with Cortese. These f*ckwits will never be satisfied, even if they got together in a little clique and sat on the board, they would find something to maon about - especially when teh vast majority of fans were questionning why we were in freefall, in debt and struggling, telling them to feck off as its our club and we would rather be in League 2 with fans in charge that top of the NPC with someone who actually knows what they are doing.... sad ****s.

[dune]

What is saddest in all this blab blah zzzzzzzz care about themselves and their pathetic little egos.

 

Did we look into a crystal ball and see all this Frank?

 

I would suggest to you that those who put all this in the public domain are the ones with the biggest egos. As I said on another thread, by putting all this in the public domain they are IMHO asking fans to take sides. Or perhaps you have another explanation?

 

Could this be a deliberate attempt to divide and rule?

Edited 27 September, 2011 by dune

[alpine_saint]

I'm not saying Cortese is perfect, I'm not saying he hasn't made mistakes but some you really, really don't know how lucky we are to have him. If you think there is anyone out there who is (a) remotely interested (b) as capable as Cortese © can guarantee continued success then I'd love to hear who those people are.

 

His abrasive way is going to rub some people up the wrong way and rightly or wrongly, he bandied two ex-Saints into the same category as the freeloaders who probably have very tentative links with us. It's a mistake, it's happened and up until the silliness of the weekend, it appeared things had turned a corner and bridges were being built.

 

What I cannot fathom is the fan-on-the-board, protest/whinge/always-know-best brigade who surface every time there is a bit of controversy (in their heads, mostly) with a chairman. Half the time, you don't hear a peep from this ****heads until they've been given, in their sad little world, a justifiable reason to squinny like little girls because they don't agree with something. Additionally, they can't be reasoned with as they are always right, irrespective of anyone else's viewpoint. If Lowe did something right, it's wrong. If Wilde did something right, it was wrong. If Crouch did something right, it was wrong and if Cortese does something right, it's wrong - the same applies if any of the previous or current incumbents do anything wrong. Actually, that's the worst case scenario - they really get their little frillies in a twist over that.

 

If you want drama, watch a f()cking soap, or better still, go down either side of the city and hang around with those whingy f()cksticks. Just when we've finally, after years of turmoil, freeloading, debt and worry - turned it around, we find a small section of our fanbase crying into their milk and stomping on their digestives over programme covers, car park charges and the like. It's pathetic, truly f()cking pathetic. Typical know-it-all's who always have a solution for everything. The type of know-it-all who probably looked over the first Ted Bates statue and gave themselves a nice pat on the back for being such a "nice person".

 

Then we've got the attention-seeking tubthumping fan-on-the-board types who love a good drama. Stringing out small-ish problems and hear'say into large, volatile threads because they heard someone who heard someone else who farted the message which the dog heard from someone else who was walking their dog in the park. Stoking and hypothesising over dark forces, agendas and laying the seeds of doubt among others in the fanbase - just to grab that little slice of attention and hold dominion over a shallow, pointless conversation on the internet.

 

He's not f()cking pefect, far from it - but who is? He's done a great job so far and if he's isolated a few wet-willied, lily-livered cry babies than so be it. I'll question Cortese's ability when he does something truly horrendous and heinous. At the time of writing, he has not so shut the f()ck up whining and enjoy one of our best teams, managers and form in years before it all goes to sh1t and you've really got something to protest about.

 

Excellent post.

[paris]

Next...

[Teddy Nutkins]

For more than 40 years, the ex-Saints association have been doing fine work around the city, with many charities benefitting.It was founded by Roy Beazley (MBE), all those years ago and have enjoyed a close association with the parent club.

I am sure, like me, Roy is not enjoying the constant bickering that seems to be reverberating, between both parties.

FFS get together, work together and carry on the good work, whatever side you represent.