Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Cobblers. Burnley were in very poor form, we were flying. Thankfully, the players, manager and Chairman will not be happy with a point against a team lying near the foot of the table. This is a team that has targeted winning the league. We will need better results than this to win the league.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 it's a poor result looking at where burnley were in the table at 3pm. They'd lost their previous two games, we were top of the league. This is the equivalent of chelsea drawing at wolves.kock !!
Saint_clark Posted 24 September, 2011 Author Posted 24 September, 2011 Cobblers. Burnley were in very poor form, we were flying. Thankfully, the players, manager and Chairman will not be happy with a point against a team lying near the foot of the table. This is a team that has targeted winning the league. We will need better results than this to win the league. We've had/will have better results than this. Look at Newcastles results last season and you will find worse results than this, I guarantee it.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 kock !! Lordy, why are so many of our fans oblivious to the investment in our squad, form of the players and ambition of the manager and chairman. Have I criticised anyone? No. Is it a poor result on form? YES. If you think otherwise, you are a fecking idiot who ignores facts.
S-Clarke Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Cobblers. Burnley were in very poor form, we were flying. Thankfully, the players, manager and Chairman will not be happy with a point against a team lying near the foot of the table. This is a team that has targeted winning the league. We will need better results than this to win the league. A very short sighted view to have this early in the season. If this was the case in March, maybe I'd agree with you. Don't get carried away.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 A very short sighted view to have this early in the season. If this was the case in March, maybe I'd agree with you. Don't get carried away. I'm not carried away. I am monumentally happy with my football club. Unlike the Southampton of old, I am simply not prepared to dress a poor result up and call it spell-binding... I'm sure the players and manager will be in Monday morning anlysing why they didn't win. This is how clubs improve.
Ohio Saint Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 I've lost count of how many times our supposedly great team has been near the bottom of the division at the "Start" of every season. Look at us now though!
S-Clarke Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 I'm not carried away. I am monumentally happy with my football club. Unlike the Southampton of old, I am simply not prepared to dress a poor result up and call it spell-binding... I'm sure the players and manager will be in Monday morning anlysing why they didn't win. This is how clubs improve. But we can't and won't win every week, in the context of the season so far and how the game went today, it's a good, well earned point. I'm not too disheartened by it at all. We'll drop more points as the season goes on, but today has shown we've got the right attitude when we go behind.
scotty Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 While I thing LTC is overreacting to put it mildly, I do have to say that somehow this feels like two points dropped. And I cant say why it feels like that, it just does. We were out in the van all day, the solent taters said there were three good chances for AL from Fox crosses, plus a great chance a minute from time to nick it? Still, an away point isnt the end of the world, and no matter their league position at the moment, Burnley are no mugs, they are a good side.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 But we can't and won't win every week, in the context of the season so far and how the game went today, it's a good, well earned point. I'm not too disheartened by it at all. We'll drop more points as the season goes on, but today has shown we've got the right attitude when we go behind. I agree we won't win every week. Let me put this another way. If Spurs had gone to Wigan today and drawn would they consider it a good result? No. Why? Because they still have to go to Old Trafford, Anfield, Emriates, etc. Look, I know it's all a big love in at SMS right now. But we are not immune from playing badly and/or getting bad results. This is not a bad result. It is a poor one. Am I the only person who thinks we could/should have beaten a team hovering above relegation??? I think I've arrived in an alternate universe where nothing at Southampton is anything other than gold plated... I am ECSTATIC with this club and its current form. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps United will be out drinking champagne if they sneak a point at the Britannia....
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 While I thing LTC is overreacting to put it mildly, I do have to say that somehow this feels like two points dropped. And I cant say why it feels like that, it just does. We were out in the van all day, the solent taters said there were three good chances for AL from Fox crosses, plus a great chance a minute from time to nick it? Still, an away point isnt the end of the world, and no matter their league position at the moment, Burnley are no mugs, they are a good side. If we're relying on AL to score with headers we are going to be sorely deceived. I still think we could do with another real front man to come off the bench but not a 4/5/6 million NPC hotshot who wants to start every game.Depends on exactly when we can expect some sort of contribution from Barnard I guess.
Saint Billy Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 A good sign when we can get a result when having an off day.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 A good sign when we can get a result when having an off day. We'll see if we had an off day when we get the reports from the game goers. I think we might have got the starting XI wrong though.
saints-cris Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Just because Burnley were near the bottom, does not make them a bad side. They almost got the playoffs last season, theyve jus started tamely this season. At the end of the season we'll know how good a point this one was, but for now with my non-short sighted glasses on, I think its a decent point at a tough ground against actually a decent side. Considering by the sounds of it we didnt really get going either, im not too dissapointed.
Crab Lungs Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Just so the more reactionary types know, I've re-stocked my cupboards full of razor blades for the forthcoming season.
Professor Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 A draw is not a bad result but neither is it a good result, especially when you are top of the table and your opponents are in the bottom half. To stay here against the likes of Middlesborough and West Ham we can't afford too many disappointing results, BUT we must expect a few. Even a team looking for automatic promotion will lose the odd game and draw a few, so its not unexpected statistically but in this game and the defeat at Leicester a common factor was not coverting a high enough percentage of chances. Are we missing the third striker that we failed to sign in the window? Adkins says that competition for places is what its all about but up front there doesn't seem to be much. Forte was fairly useless againt PNE and unless Barnard comes back fit and free we might regret not having a Maynard or Rodriguez type on hand.
Dr Who? Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 It's a poor result looking at where Burnley were in the table at 3pm. They'd lost their previous two games, we were top of the league. This is the equivalent of Chelsea drawing at Wolves. It has been known for a top team to draw away in the Premier League to a team near the bottom!!
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 A draw is not a bad result but neither is it a good result, especially when you are top of the table and your opponents are in the bottom half. To stay here against the likes of Middlesborough and West Ham we can't afford too many disappointing results, BUT we must expect a few. Even a team looking for automatic promotion will lose the odd game and draw a few, so its not unexpected statistically but in this game and the defeat at Leicester a common factor was not coverting a high enough percentage of chances. Are we missing the third striker that we failed to sign in the window? Adkins says that competition for places is what its all about but up front there doesn't seem to be much. Forte was fairly useless againt PNE and unless Barnard comes back fit and free we might regret not having a Maynard or Rodriguez type on hand. Boro only drew with Ipswich today.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 It has been known for a top team to draw away in the Premier League to a team near the bottom!! Yes, but they don't sit on the bus on the way home and pretend it was a good result... Before today, Burnley had not won a game at home, had scored 3 goals and shipped 5...
Cabrone Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Decent away point to a dangerous team that probably has designs on a top 6 place themselves. Good to see MS get a goal too.
scotty Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Yes, but they don't sit on the bus on the way home and pretend it was a good result... Before today, Burnley had not won a game at home, had scored 3 goals and shipped 5... They still havent won a game at home.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 They still havent won a game at home. Well spotted Makes our performance all the poorer ne c'est pas? 13 points more than them going into the game... Maybe I'm being hard. But hard people win leagues. And our chairman is fecking hard so he'll be disappointed too...
Shroppie Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Was at the game and would say it wasn't a bad point. Burnley had a game plan to keep it tight, stop us playing and catch us on the break with pace and for 70 mins it worked. They looked dangerous whenever they moved it wide - Fox was good going forward but not sure defensively. Think 451 would have been good for this one Chaplow made a big difference. Should start vs Cardiff. Can't believe RL missed the sitter. Headed it too well. Another 5 mins we'd have won. They were out on their feet and Ricky started to win everything in the air. Disappointing but no wrist slashing. Burnley looked much better than their league position.
niceandfriendly Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Look at the reaction of one or two posters when we draw a game... my goodness. This place will be hell if we dare to lose one. Burnley are a decent side who put us under a lot of pressure. We've got a point and could have won the game, not a bad result by any means.
aintforever Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Well spotted Makes our performance all the poorer ne c'est pas? 13 points more than them going into the game... Maybe I'm being hard. But hard people win leagues. And our chairman is fecking hard so he'll be disappointed too... League tables don't mean a great deal at this stage IMO. Burnley are a decent side, a point isn't a bad result.
niceandfriendly Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 But hard people win leagues. And our chairman is fecking hard so he'll be disappointed too... Everyone is disappointed we didn't win the game. As Adkins says and will continue to say "We want to win every game of football" but Barcelona we are not, and not even they win every game. We'll draw some games, we'll lose some games (be prepared, it will happen), and a point away to Burnley ain't nothing to be ashamed of especially considering our great start. If we were bottom with no points then perhaps I'd be a little worried that we went another game without winning, but we're top of the league, playing well and picking up points even when we go behind.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 League tables don't mean a great deal at this stage IMO. Burnley are a decent side, a point isn't a bad result. League tables mean form. And we went into the game in top form, Burnley in poor form. On form it was a poor result, that's all I have pointed out throughout the above. Does it matter? Not really today. We're top of the league and the Championship is still in our hands.
teamsaint Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 we have 7 points from 4 aways, and rescued something from a tough away game. We will have worse days. And we are top of the table. Happy.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Everyone is disappointed we didn't win the game. As Adkins says and will continue to say "We want to win every game of football" but Barcelona we are not, and not even they win every game. We'll draw some games, we'll lose some games (be prepared, it will happen), and a point away to Burnley ain't nothing to be ashamed of especially considering our great start. If we were bottom with no points then perhaps I'd be a little worried that we went another game without winning, but we're top of the league, playing well and picking up points even when we go behind. I do not disagree with a thing you say. Where have I said otherwise. But to pretend a point against a side in poor form is a good one, that I disagree with. For the record, I haven't complained, criticised and I do not own a stanley knife so my wrists are well and truly safe...
niceandfriendly Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 But to pretend a point against a side in poor form is a good one, that I disagree with. Arsenal are also in poor form but if we got a point at the Emirates I'd be happy. Yes different I know, but it's a similar situation. Form is temporary. Burnley are a good side despite their start to the season. Plus they beat Derby away so they're clearly no mugs.
Saints67 Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Was at the game and would say it wasn't a bad point. Burnley had a game plan to keep it tight, stop us playing and catch us on the break with pace and for 70 mins it worked. They looked dangerous whenever they moved it wide - Fox was good going forward but not sure defensively. Think 451 would have been good for this one Chaplow made a big difference. Should start vs Cardiff. Can't believe RL missed the sitter. Headed it too well. Another 5 mins we'd have won. They were out on their feet and Ricky started to win everything in the air. Disappointing but no wrist slashing. Burnley looked much better than their league position. Not long back. I'd agree with this assessment. Guly looked disinterested and the whole team (first half) seemed very casual on the ball and Burnley were in their faces every time. We upped the tempo about 5 minutes after they scored and we looked very dangerous. When adam missed two headers I felt it just wasn't going to be our day. Also Lallana should have gone down under the defenders pressure for a penalty right at the end when through on goal although I think the ref wouldn't have given it even he'd sliced Adam in half. I would say an off day and it'll be back to normal very soon! Still top of the league and havin' a laff.
Saints67 Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Fonte was also booked at full time for protesting
Dalek2003 Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 All you people saying this was a bad result are mad ! This was a point won away from home ffs ! We have had a brilliant start and provided our home form remains strong we should have more than enough to see us through the season. We are shaping up to be a good solid NPC team capable of holding our own in this league. Some people are never satisfied.
70's Mike Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 played 4 home and 4 away and top of the table. i will settle for that
Dalek2003 Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 League tables don't mean a great deal at this stage IMO. Burnley are a decent side, a point isn't a bad result. Wise words, I said this morning and have said before people are getting carried away.
LostBoys Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Were Lallana's missed headers as bad as we were told on the radio. A point is a point but missing free headers 6 yards out does not make champions - very disappointed
Lighthouse Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Were Lallana's missed headers as bad as we were told on the radio. A point is a point but missing free headers 6 yards out does not make champions - very disappointed They weren't stocking filler DVD bad, but he should have got them both on target as an absolute minimum. To put both of them wide really is poor from him.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 All you people saying this was a bad result are mad ! This was a point won away from home ffs ! We have had a brilliant start and provided our home form remains strong we should have more than enough to see us through the season. We are shaping up to be a good solid NPC team capable of holding our own in this league. Some people are never satisfied. Ok, let's say that there are three games to go and we are top of the league, one point ahead of our two nearest pursuers. Burnley are lying 17th. Would it be a poor result then?
LostBoys Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 And not only that - no points on the Prediction League!!!!!!! I had them for a 2 nil win but I would have accepted 3 1
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 We weren't at the races today, and part of the credit for that is down to how hard Burnley worked. If they had an ounce of creativity in their midfield to provide chances for Austin or Rodriguez, they could have been a few up at HT. As it was, they got tired in the second half and we got most of our joy through throwing crosses into the box rather than passing our way through them. Quite happy with a point here, and will be interested to see whether Adkins mixes it up for Cardiff. Chaplow and Schneiderlin are worthy of starts - not sure who would drop out though.
70's Mike Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Ok, let's say that there are three games to go and we are top of the league, one point ahead of our two nearest pursuers. Burnley are lying 17th. Would it be a poor result then? no would depend on who are last 3 games were against
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 no would depend on who are last 3 games were against I'm just very surprised Mike that people aren't more disappointed by a point at a team languishing 12 places below us.. I am not unhappy per se - in fact I'm over the bloody moon with our start, but a few results like this could cost us dearly when we have still to play really good teams away.
Lighthouse Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Yes, but they don't sit on the bus on the way home and pretend it was a good result... Before today, Burnley had not won a game at home, had scored 3 goals and shipped 5... Well spotted Makes our performance all the poorer ne c'est pas? 13 points more than them going into the game... Maybe I'm being hard. But hard people win leagues. And our chairman is fecking hard so he'll be disappointed too... A quick lesson in physics here. If an object exists within the universe, it's behaviour will be forever be controlled by the various forces acting upon it. Even the furthest away anitneutrinos with the smallest off mass will be influenced by the very weak force of gravity between other mass in the uinverse. If a neutrino billions of light years from Earth cannot maintain and unchanged state for the entirity of time, I fail to see why Burnley's dubious home form should either. In short, things change in football constantly. Every team will go through good and bad patches. If you are the first team Burnley beat at home in 4, 5 or 10 games, it doesn't automatically make you sh*t.
View From The Top Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Were Lallana's missed headers as bad as we were told on the radio. A point is a point but missing free headers 6 yards out does not make champions - very disappointed Yes IMHO.
View From The Top Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 I'm just very surprised Mike that people aren't more disappointed by a point at a team languishing 12 places below us.. I am not unhappy per se - in fact I'm over the bloody moon with our start, but a few results like this could cost us dearly when we have still to play really good teams away. Just being a drama queen as far as I can tell.
teamsaint Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 last time we were promoted from this league, we drew at burnley. spooky.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Just being a drama queen as far as I can tell. What pointing out that failing to beat a team hovering above relegation is a poor result on form? Which it is.
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 A quick lesson in physics here. If an object exists within the universe, it's behaviour will be forever be controlled by the various forces acting upon it. Even the furthest away anitneutrinos with the smallest off mass will be influenced by the very weak force of gravity between other mass in the uinverse. If a neutrino billions of light years from Earth cannot maintain and unchanged state for the entirity of time, I fail to see why Burnley's dubious home form should either. In short, things change in football constantly. Every team will go through good and bad patches. If you are the first team Burnley beat at home in 4, 5 or 10 games, it doesn't automatically make you sh*t. So it was a good result? And when we lose at home to Watford in a fortnight that's inevitable. Got it. Thank you Stephen Hawking.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 I'm just very surprised Mike that people aren't more disappointed by a point at a team languishing 12 places below us.. I am not unhappy per se - in fact I'm over the bloody moon with our start, but a few results like this could cost us dearly when we have still to play really good teams away. Well, you would be disappointed if the Saints were top in February and Burnley were 17th. However, at this early stage of the season the league position is not such a reliable indicator of a teams ability. This is why I am satisfied with a point away from home. We have had a great start and our home form is good. We are on target for at least consolidation in the league which would be a great achievement and probably was our target for the season. So, yes, very happy with an away point against a good team.
Lighthouse Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 So it was a good result? And when we lose at home to Watford in a fortnight that's inevitable. Got it. Thank you Stephen Hawking. Okay, now you definitely just being a drama queen.
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