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Most people in sport understand this deal. It's not about 'freebies' - it's about loyalty, gratitude and PR.

 

Whilst I appreciate some people will see it as freebies, my position is line with your view above.

 

Both have been awarded Freedom of the City status and IMHO should be given the Freedom of St Mary's.

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I think they should 2 free tickets a season and maybe discount on tickets for other games and if we make wembley appearance offer them boxes at a decent price.

 

But they were paid for there work they did always will be legends and if i was a ex player or manager that would be enough for me, having the fans love me.

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Cortese has always had a very weak understanding of PR, Marketing and the Club's history. Of the attendances Saints have been getting, at least 10% are probably due to Mac's period as Manager and a further 10% due to MLT. It is our history in the 70s, 80s and 90s that brought us some of the highest attendances in L1 relative to other Clubs. It is why we get better attendances than many Clubs including some in the Pemiership.

 

It is called heritage. Rupert Lowe also had problems with LMac's heritage and preferred a photo of a train to LMac. Says it all about Lowe and why we need to be careful about Cortese.

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what are you on about..?fans are saying MLT should pay for tickets as that is what everyone has to do....no one gets freebies anymore....deffo not multi millionaires...if freebies were being dished out, I bet you would not find many (if at all) saints fans saying MLT does not deserve one or five..this is all getting silly..

 

It's not that difficult to understand....

When Le Tiss was playing for not one person would have argued against a ticket for life. Now he no longer plays/does anything for the club, people no longer care... "Oh he can afford it, he should pay." If Matt had that sort of attitude he'd have left our club years before he finally retired.

We'll forget that there would be no club without the likes of Matt or Lawrie. Their achievements made this club the attractive proposition for the likes of Leibherr and Cortese.

The odd free ticket, bearing in mind we're not selling out every week, isn't going to hurt anyone but this isn't an issue about the cost of the ticket, I'm sure Matt and Lawrie can easily afford tickets, it's about showing our old boys some basic respect...

One small black mark against Cortese... is that so hard to accept or is our chairman isn't completely and utterly faultless?

Reading some of the replies here I'm a little shocked that we care so little about some of our former legends. We've gone from one extreme to another, from people milking all the freebies they can to two of our greatest names being called freeloaders for allegedly asking for the occasional free ticket..

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What a shower of snivelling ****s infecting our fanbase these days.

 

Matt Le Tissier was a "paid employee paid for doing a job". What a bunch of utter, absolute ****s you are.

 

I'll go back and watch my Unbelievable Video, or the youtubes of his wonderful goals and what those goals meant to me.

 

You bunch of *****s go back to ****ing over press releases from our current chief executive. The spirit of new Southampton fans - godlike worship of a chief executive. A chief executive that moron fans have decided to shove their heads up the backside of. A chief executive. That is your hero? A chief executive.

 

Dismissing Matt Le Tissier as a paid employee whose relationship with the club ended the day his contract for his paid employment finished. Jesus.

 

Meanwhile the chief executive seems to have become Mr Southampton. Do point me in the direction of an interview of Nicola Cortese that will stir my blood like Le Tissier's double against Newcastle. Or his cheeky free kick v Wimbledon. Or his dinky dribble against Liverpool. Do show me, because I think I'm missing something.

 

Soutampton Football Club is about more than one man of course. But Matt Le Tissier is worth ten thousand Nicola Corteses. Ten thousand. Cortese is a termite in the history of this club. Le Tiss is a collosus. But you keep ****ing over his interviews boys.

 

 

And let's wait for the day which may well come when Lallana asks for a move to a bigger club. Or even Lambert. Or Fonte. or anyone. And let's hear the squinnying and grizzling from the same snivelling ****s who have written off Matthew Le Tissier. You same shameful shower will be squealing loyalty like the *****es you are. I guarantee you were all whining like women about A O-C crying where's the loyalty?

 

Loyalty works both ways. God knows why any Saints player would want to be loyal to you *****s. If Matt Le Tissier is "just an employee paid to do a job" then what chance do they have. Get out Adam Lallana while you can, these fans are a bunch of utter ****s.

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What a shower of snivelling ****s infecting our fanbase these days.

 

Matt Le Tissier was a "paid employee paid for doing a job". What a bunch of utter, absolute ****s you are.

 

I'll go back and watch my Unbelievable Video, or the youtubes of his wonderful goals and what those goals meant to me.

 

You bunch of *****s go back to ****ing over press releases from our current chief executive. The spirit of new Southampton fans - godlike worship of a chief executive. A chief executive that moron fans have decided to shove their heads up the backside of. A chief executive. That is your hero? A chief executive.

 

Dismissing Matt Le Tissier as a paid employee whose relationship with the club ended the day his contract for his paid employment finished. Jesus.

 

Meanwhile the chief executive seems to have become Mr Southampton. Do point me in the direction of an interview of Nicola Cortese that will stir my blood like Le Tissier's double against Newcastle. Or his cheeky free kick v Wimbledon. Or his dinky dribble against Liverpool. Do show me, because I think I'm missing something.

 

Soutampton Football Club is about more than one man of course. But Matt Le Tissier is worth ten thousand Nicola Corteses. Ten thousand. Cortese is a termite in the history of this club. Le Tiss is a collosus. But you keep ****ing over his interviews boys.

 

 

And let's wait for the day which may well come when Lallana asks for a move to a bigger club. Or even Lambert. Or Fonte. or anyone. And let's hear the squinnying and grizzling from the same snivelling ****s who have written off Matthew Le Tissier. You same shameful shower will be squealing loyalty like the *****es you are. I guarantee you were all whining like women about A O-C crying where's the loyalty?

 

Loyalty works both ways. God knows why any Saints player would want to be loyal to you *****s. If Matt Le Tissier is "just an employee paid to do a job" then what chance do they have. Get out Adam Lallana while you can, these fans are a bunch of utter ****s.

 

What I would have said if I had bigger ********...

Well said..

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It's not that difficult to understand....

When Le Tiss was playing for not one person would have argued against a ticket for life. Now he no longer plays/does anything for the club, people no longer care... "Oh he can afford it, he should pay." If Matt had that sort of attitude he'd have left our club years before he finally retired.

We'll forget that there would be no club without the likes of Matt or Lawrie. Their achievements made this club the attractive proposition for the likes of Leibherr and Cortese.

The odd free ticket, bearing in mind we're not selling out every week, isn't going to hurt anyone but this isn't an issue about the cost of the ticket, I'm sure Matt and Lawrie can easily afford tickets, it's about showing our old boys some basic respect...

One small black mark against Cortese... is that so hard to accept or is our chairman isn't completely and utterly faultless?

Reading some of the replies here I'm a little shocked that we care so little about some of our former legends. We've gone from one extreme to another, from people milking all the freebies they can to two of our greatest names being called freeloaders for allegedly asking for the occasional free ticket..

 

Excellent post! Years ago I saw Peter Rodrigues in The Forest Home pub near Hythe. I bought him a pint, thanked him and then left him alone. Knowing what I do now, I should have punched him in the face and told him to stop grabbing free pints off me? ;)

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Would it be wrong.for me to boo tomorrow night at The Mayflower show if this is brought up? Can't wait to see Mike Osman do his Red Rum, Matt and Lawrie....better wear my contipants just in case.There's an open q and a bit, I shall sit on my hands, be for the best I think.Ironically, I was given a free ticket.

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Would it be wrong.for me to boo tomorrow night at The Mayflower show if this is brought up? Can't wait to see Mike Osman do his Red Rum, Matt and Lawrie....better wear my contipants just in case.There's an open q and a bit, I shall sit on my hands, be for the best I think.Ironically, I was given a free ticket.

 

Considering you got the ticket for free, you could always walk out if it's brought up ;)

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What a shower of snivelling ****s infecting our fanbase these days.

 

Matt Le Tissier was a "paid employee paid for doing a job". What a bunch of utter, absolute ****s you are.

 

I'll go back and watch my Unbelievable Video, or the youtubes of his wonderful goals and what those goals meant to me.

 

You bunch of *****s go back to ****ing over press releases from our current chief executive. The spirit of new Southampton fans - godlike worship of a chief executive. A chief executive that moron fans have decided to shove their heads up the backside of. A chief executive. That is your hero? A chief executive.

 

Dismissing Matt Le Tissier as a paid employee whose relationship with the club ended the day his contract for his paid employment finished. Jesus.

 

Meanwhile the chief executive seems to have become Mr Southampton. Do point me in the direction of an interview of Nicola Cortese that will stir my blood like Le Tissier's double against Newcastle. Or his cheeky free kick v Wimbledon. Or his dinky dribble against Liverpool. Do show me, because I think I'm missing something.

 

Soutampton Football Club is about more than one man of course. But Matt Le Tissier is worth ten thousand Nicola Corteses. Ten thousand. Cortese is a termite in the history of this club. Le Tiss is a collosus. But you keep ****ing over his interviews boys.

 

 

And let's wait for the day which may well come when Lallana asks for a move to a bigger club. Or even Lambert. Or Fonte. or anyone. And let's hear the squinnying and grizzling from the same snivelling ****s who have written off Matthew Le Tissier. You same shameful shower will be squealing loyalty like the *****es you are. I guarantee you were all whining like women about A O-C crying where's the loyalty?

 

Loyalty works both ways. God knows why any Saints player would want to be loyal to you *****s. If Matt Le Tissier is "just an employee paid to do a job" then what chance do they have. Get out Adam Lallana while you can, these fans are a bunch of utter ****s.

 

Nicely put.

 

Cortese says no one is bigger than the club, but his ego is obviously is.

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Cortese says no one is bigger than the club, but his ego is obviously is.

 

I'm not sure that is entirely fair. He is obviously working to a plan. He seems to have mended some bridges with the press. Maybe he will be open in the future to restoring the historical figures to the grand scheme. It seems very arrogant to assume that we know what he is thinking.

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I've been supporting them long enough to (let me think now, oh yeah) remember McMoneybags walking out on us to go to his spiritual home Sunderland.

 

yes I can understand that but he also did a great job as manager. Le tiss however is another story. He loves the club. The pinnacle thing was unfortunate but was done with the right intentions. Cortese has done a lot of good but that doesn't mean he can act like an idiot wheneve he wants.

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I've been supporting them long enough to (let me think now, oh yeah) remember McMoneybags walking out on us to go to his spiritual home Sunderland.

 

After 12 years at the club... That would get most managers a gold clock these days...

**** me if a player stayed at a club for 12 years and then left to go to their home town team no one would carry a grudge, why is it different for a manager?

I don't see people still holding a grudge against Keegan, Shearer or Channon... They all left the club..

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After 12 years at the club... That would get most managers a gold clock these days...

**** me if a player stayed at a club for 12 years and then left to go to their home town team no one would carry a grudge, why is it different for a manager?

I don't see people still holding a grudge against Keegan, Shearer or Channon... They all left the club..

 

 

Yes and has a pop at lawrie for leaving and also he mentioned matty should be banned from club who didn't leave at all! The irony!

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What a shower of snivelling ****s infecting our fanbase these days.

 

Matt Le Tissier was a "paid employee paid for doing a job". What a bunch of utter, absolute ****s you are.

 

I'll go back and watch my Unbelievable Video, or the youtubes of his wonderful goals and what those goals meant to me.

 

You bunch of *****s go back to ****ing over press releases from our current chief executive. The spirit of new Southampton fans - godlike worship of a chief executive. A chief executive that moron fans have decided to shove their heads up the backside of. A chief executive. That is your hero? A chief executive.

 

Dismissing Matt Le Tissier as a paid employee whose relationship with the club ended the day his contract for his paid employment finished. Jesus.

 

Meanwhile the chief executive seems to have become Mr Southampton. Do point me in the direction of an interview of Nicola Cortese that will stir my blood like Le Tissier's double against Newcastle. Or his cheeky free kick v Wimbledon. Or his dinky dribble against Liverpool. Do show me, because I think I'm missing something.

 

Soutampton Football Club is about more than one man of course. But Matt Le Tissier is worth ten thousand Nicola Corteses. Ten thousand. Cortese is a termite in the history of this club. Le Tiss is a collosus. But you keep ****ing over his interviews boys.

 

 

And let's wait for the day which may well come when Lallana asks for a move to a bigger club. Or even Lambert. Or Fonte. or anyone. And let's hear the squinnying and grizzling from the same snivelling ****s who have written off Matthew Le Tissier. You same shameful shower will be squealing loyalty like the *****es you are. I guarantee you were all whining like women about A O-C crying where's the loyalty?

 

Loyalty works both ways. God knows why any Saints player would want to be loyal to you *****s. If Matt Le Tissier is "just an employee paid to do a job" then what chance do they have. Get out Adam Lallana while you can, these fans are a bunch of utter ****s.

 

Brilliant post mate.

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It's not that difficult to understand....

When Le Tiss was playing for not one person would have argued against a ticket for life. Now he no longer plays/does anything for the club, people no longer care... "Oh he can afford it, he should pay." If Matt had that sort of attitude he'd have left our club years before he finally retired.

We'll forget that there would be no club without the likes of Matt or Lawrie. Their achievements made this club the attractive proposition for the likes of Leibherr and Cortese.

The odd free ticket, bearing in mind we're not selling out every week, isn't going to hurt anyone but this isn't an issue about the cost of the ticket, I'm sure Matt and Lawrie can easily afford tickets, it's about showing our old boys some basic respect...

One small black mark against Cortese... is that so hard to accept or is our chairman isn't completely and utterly faultless?

Reading some of the replies here I'm a little shocked that we care so little about some of our former legends. We've gone from one extreme to another, from people milking all the freebies they can to two of our greatest names being called freeloaders for allegedly asking for the occasional free ticket..

 

I'll go with this. I just wish that they could be more grown up and bury the hatchet.

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I agree with many of the comments made on here, but in NC's defence I have noticed that unlike us, he has always perceived the club as starting in 2009 when the club was salvaged by Markus and all previous highs and lows are irrelevant. This may be unfair to all those of us around before then but I believe he is entitled to this approach.

As a businessman he would have little sense of history before his own involvement. I can understand that and respect it.

That is not placing him on a pedestal.

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Le tiss however is another story. He loves the club./QUOTE]

Clearly. He spent a good chunk of his "expert analysis" at the 2010 Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final slagging Cortese down. His gimp sidekick Osman cant speak for more than a few minutes without taking the **** out of the way the club is run and he teed up his mate Stelling to have a rant on Sky Sports. No doubt it will continue at the bitterfest at The Mayflower night. Not to mention Pinnacle that nearly finished our club off.

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After 12 years at the club... That would get most managers a gold clock these days...

**** me if a player stayed at a club for 12 years and then left to go to their home town team no one would carry a grudge, why is it different for a manager?

I don't see people still holding a grudge against Keegan, Shearer or Channon... They all left the club..

Yeah but they havnt been sniping at the club.......................

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I agree with many of the comments made on here, but in NC's defence I have noticed that unlike us, he has always perceived the club as starting in 2009 when the club was salvaged by Markus and all previous highs and lows are irrelevant. This may be unfair to all those of us around before then but I believe he is entitled to this approach.

As a businessman he would have little sense of history before his own involvement. I can understand that and respect it.

That is not placing him on a pedestal.

 

To be fair to Cortese I don't think that is the case at all.

 

He seemed very switched on to our 125 year anniversary, both commercially and emotionally and has recognised our past in a variety of other ways. I think he is acutely aware of our history and what went on in the decades before he rocked (but that doesn't mean he hasn't had a clash of egos woth some from that history).

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Do you mean all those words that were starred out? He was totally correct with his post btw as well.

 

That makes it okay does it? Couldn't care less if he was right or wrong, I wouldn't ever take someone's point seriously if they spoke like that.

 

For the record, I think the Club should welcome back former players and managers, especially if they are as successful as Le Tiss and Lawrie were, but it should be on the Club's terms and not the individuals.

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Matt and Lawrie are loaded so in my book they should pay their way.

 

Ron Davies on the other hand was a great player from an era when wages weren't excessive and it's my view that the club should bring him over for an expenses paid holiday. It wouldn't cost that much and it'd be a decent thing to do.

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i honestly thought this was done and dusted, both MLT/LM have been to recent home games and whilst i understand NC was answering a question from a journalist, i feel his answer lacked tack and the hand of reconciliation.

As we all know football is a games of ups and downs and, yes he saved the club with Markus, but a bad run and the fans will turn on him because we are fickle so reigniting bad feeling could back fire on him.

A poll of the 22000 home fans imo would put MLT and LM ahead of NC in the legend status.

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i honestly thought this was done and dusted, both MLT/LM have been to recent home games and whilst i understand NC was answering a question from a journalist, i feel his answer lacked tack and the hand of reconciliation.

As we all know football is a games of ups and downs and, yes he saved the club with Markus, but a bad run and the fans will turn on him because we are fickle so reigniting bad feeling could back fire on him.

A poll of the 22000 home fans imo would put MLT and LM ahead of NC in the legend status.

 

Absofeckinglutely and spot on !!

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What a shower of snivelling ****s infecting our fanbase these days.

 

Matt Le Tissier was a "paid employee paid for doing a job". What a bunch of utter, absolute ****s you are.

 

I'll go back and watch my Unbelievable Video, or the youtubes of his wonderful goals and what those goals meant to me.

 

You bunch of *****s go back to ****ing over press releases from our current chief executive. The spirit of new Southampton fans - godlike worship of a chief executive. A chief executive that moron fans have decided to shove their heads up the backside of. A chief executive. That is your hero? A chief executive.

 

Dismissing Matt Le Tissier as a paid employee whose relationship with the club ended the day his contract for his paid employment finished. Jesus.

 

Meanwhile the chief executive seems to have become Mr Southampton. Do point me in the direction of an interview of Nicola Cortese that will stir my blood like Le Tissier's double against Newcastle. Or his cheeky free kick v Wimbledon. Or his dinky dribble against Liverpool. Do show me, because I think I'm missing something.

 

Soutampton Football Club is about more than one man of course. But Matt Le Tissier is worth ten thousand Nicola Corteses. Ten thousand. Cortese is a termite in the history of this club. Le Tiss is a collosus. But you keep ****ing over his interviews boys.

 

 

And let's wait for the day which may well come when Lallana asks for a move to a bigger club. Or even Lambert. Or Fonte. or anyone. And let's hear the squinnying and grizzling from the same snivelling ****s who have written off Matthew Le Tissier. You same shameful shower will be squealing loyalty like the *****es you are. I guarantee you were all whining like women about A O-C crying where's the loyalty?

 

Loyalty works both ways. God knows why any Saints player would want to be loyal to you *****s. If Matt Le Tissier is "just an employee paid to do a job" then what chance do they have. Get out Adam Lallana while you can, these fans are a bunch of utter ****s.

 

Agree with you on Le Tiss

 

As for Cortese yes he's made mistakes and doesn't do himself many favours with PR like this, but calling him a termite considering the progress the club has made under his leadership not to mention he apparently first recommended us to Markus is well, short-sighted is an understatement.

 

I'll remind you of a previous occasion when you called Cortese names which was when Pardew got dismissed and you were ridiculing our calls of "let's judge after we see who the replacement is" just as Nigel Adkins was going for his interview. Still think sacking Pardew was a bad idea? or did Cortese prove you to be knee-jerk and pre-judgemental?

 

Frankly I am well aware that Cortese has made mistakes during his time here, but if your far more concerned with club legends not being given token-gesture free tickets whilst gleefully ignoring the fact the club's excellent progress under his leadership that justifies calling Cortese a "termite" that's up to you.

 

There will always be planks who will be ridiculously pro-one chairman or anti-another chairman and consider them immune from criticism or praise. We went through all that with Lowe Luvvies and Wilde Worshippers and Scooby and Saint-Richmond. But even if I am pro-Cortese I am not blinkered (and neither are most Cortese supporters). Maybe that's because I look at the big picture and don't have any time for petty squabbles and neither does Cortese. I will gladly admit he has made mistakes during his time here but at the end of the day he is human and

 

Frankly with the club's recent progress, I couldn't give a flying **** about MLT's and Cortese's poor relationship. I'm afraid there are always 2 sides to every story. . .

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CB Fry - you have made yourself look a complete tool, and a nasty piece of work, with your insults and vitriol.

 

Everyone has opinions - FWIW I wish they would all make up.

 

But no one person makes the club - not MLT, not NC, not anyone. the club will be here long after all the current protaginists are long gone.

 

MLT was a fantastic player for us and it was a privilege to see him in his prime but, quite honestly, once his playing career was over that was that and what he thinks/says no longer really matters. I will always cherish the MLT in his prime for us but that era has gone and we are now entering a new, exciting era.

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