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Dazza82

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He was sticking up for MLT - and Lawrie Mac. I can understand where his point was coming from -they should have tickets for life. Then again he can probably afford to pay for his own tickets being on Mr Murdocks payroll. In spite of that legend ( MLT, not Jeff stelling).

 

Why should they i know they are legends, but they were also paid to do the jobs they done.

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I just want to mention something that appeared in the sun this morning. It was Southampton, cheif executive I believe he is, Nicola Cortese, who talks about critisisms of the club made by Matt Le Tissier, Lawrie McMenemy and he says "I could not accept all of these people trying to get freebies here freebies there. I pay for my season ticket and I expect everyone to pay for theirs"

 

Well Mr. Cortese I do hope you have been listening to everything (I think). Matt le Tissier, 17 years at Southampton, the ultimate 1 club man. He could have gone to Spurs or Chelsea or Liverpool, he didn't. He stayed. He score 209 goals. He is referred to as fans by God. Lawrie McMenemy put Southampton to the FA cup win against MU when they were a second division side. He led them to promotion in 1978, a league cup final in 1979. He brought Keegan and Ball etc to the club. The most successful manager you side has ever had in its history. You should give them tickets for life if they are willing to come back and because they are Southampton through and through they wouldn't be willing to come back. Don't tell me the game has moved on. No Southampton fan will ever forget what Matt Le Tissier and Lawrie McMenemey gave to that club.

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He was sticking up for MLT - and Lawrie Mac. I can understand where his point was coming from -they should have tickets for life. Then again he can probably afford to pay for his own tickets being on Mr Murdocks payroll. In spite of that legend ( MLT, not Jeff stelling).

 

le tiss pays for his tickets and takes his family as much as he can. Cortese for me is bring stupid here. Why bring this up again now. No doubt it will probably be mattys fault now but cortese started it off in that article. Brainless.

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le tiss pays for his tickets and takes his family as much as he can. Cortese for me is bring stupid here. Why bring this up again now. No doubt it will probably be mattys fault now but cortese started it off in that article. Brainless.

 

Are you aware of the question the reporter asked Cortese to prompt that response?

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le tiss pays for his tickets and takes his family as much as he can. Cortese for me is bring stupid here. Why bring this up again now. No doubt it will probably be mattys fault now but cortese started it off in that article. Brainless.

 

If someone or a group of people were constantly trying to rock the boat at your business would you not feel the need to or want to stand up for yourself?

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If someone or a group of people were constantly trying to rock the boat at your business would you not feel the need to or want to stand up for yourself?

 

rock the boat? They've not said nything for ages. Only support of the team recently.

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The fact is that Cortese has made a rule that everyone must purchase their ticket, whoever they may be, and he sets the

example. If this rule is ever relaxed MLT and LM should be the first to get free entry imo.

 

(But remember, too many freebies were one of the reasons SLH/SFC got into financial trouble.

 

All in this together.

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I just want to mention something that appeared in the sun this morning. It was Southampton, cheif executive I believe he is, Nicola Cortese, who talks about critisisms of the club made by Matt Le Tissier, Lawrie McMenemy and he says "I could not accept all of these people trying to get freebies here freebies there. I pay for my season ticket and I expect everyone to pay for theirs"

 

Well Mr. Cortese I do hope you have been listening to everything (I think). Matt le Tissier, 17 years at Southampton, the ultimate 1 club man. He could have gone to Spurs or Chelsea or Liverpool, he didn't. He stayed. He score 209 goals. He is referred to as fans by God. Lawrie McMenemy put Southampton to the FA cup win against MU when they were a second division side. He led them to promotion in 1978, a league cup final in 1979. He brought Keegan and Ball etc to the club. The most successful manager you side has ever had in its history. You should give them tickets for life if they are willing to come back and because they are Southampton through and through they wouldn't be willing to come back. Don't tell me the game has moved on. No Southampton fan will ever forget what Matt Le Tissier and Lawrie McMenemey gave to that club.

 

Agree with every word.

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Are you aware of the question the reporter asked Cortese to prompt that response?

 

This. Y'all need to know how journo's work.There's no story in him going on about how ambitious we are, the story's in trying to big up this so called feud. Journo probably asked the question 5 different ways and posted up a hash of all the answers

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To be honest with you the feud has nothing to do with the fans. Both Cortese and MLT/LM should not be using the media to snipe at each other.

 

Jeff obviously was only sticking up for his mate but the way he makes it sound is that it is all Cortese's fault. Which as we all know is not quite accurate.

Without trying to sound too critical if Pinacle had gone through with the takeover i think it would be safe to say we would not be where we are right now. As much as a legend Matt is he is not beyond criticism which neither is Cortese. Both make mistakes and both obviously have problems with each other. The free ticket thing in my view is probably not even the real issue.

 

The fans should not be put in the position they are. Everyone just wants to concentrate on the now and enjoy the good feel factor around the club. Because after all the **** we been through we deserve a good period. It is just sad that the three of them can't get together and try and sort it out. Having your mate slag off a chairman at a club on international tv is not going to get you anywhere.

 

Someone has to take the first toke on the peace pipe.

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I have no problem with fans saying Le Tissier doesn't deserve a ticket for life...

I just would have liked to have heard them say that when he was still playing for us. I'd hazard a guess and say not one person on here would have said he didn't... not one..

Our memories are short and for many of us a free ticket for McMenemy or Le Tissier is a no brainer...

And that's from someone who thinks Cortese can do no wrong...

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I have no problem with fans saying Le Tissier doesn't deserve a ticket for life...I just would have liked to have heard them say that when he was still playing for us. I'd hazard a guess and say not one person on here would have said he didn't... not one..Our memories are short and for many of us a free ticket for McMenemy or Le Tissier is a no brainer...And that's from someone who thinks Cortese can do no wrong...
what are you on about..?fans are saying MLT should pay for tickets as that is what everyone has to do....no one gets freebies anymore....deffo not multi millionaires...if freebies were being dished out, I bet you would not find many (if at all) saints fans saying MLT does not deserve one or five..this is all getting silly..
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MLT sat just behind me at the Birmingham game. Happy to buy his own tickets but upset, I suspect that he keeps getting aggro for an unfortunate comment in the press a year or so back. Both MLT and LM have kept quiet recently so Cortese should do the same. Unfortunately it is not always possible when someone asks you a direct question in an interview. Free tickets to anyone is not a good thing because where do you draw the line? There will always be someone just the other side of the line who feels aggreived. The best way is for ANY SFC employee or fan to buy a tciket and give it to MLT or LM if they feel that strongly. Cortse I am sure will buy tickets for friends but why should he do it for people who openly criticise him.

 

In summary they are both as bad as one another. I neither blame nor defend eithers actions. For Stelling to chip in is just plain unprofessional.

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Maybe there should be a nominated amount of free season tickets each season i.e 20 and the fans then nominate who they think deserves it. From past players/staff and fans. Because it is hard to say who is more deserving.

I knew a guy who died a few years back who went to nearly every home game for almost 40 years. If you think about how much that would of cost it would of been a lot. Many people dedicate their lives to the club to the point where they work their ass off in some ****ty job week in week out just so they can get to the games. Someone who does that is just as deserving as someone who played hundreds of games for us in getting a free ticket imo.

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Maybe there should be a nominated amount of free season tickets each season i.e 20 and the fans then nominate who they think deserves it. From past players/staff and fans. Because it is hard to say who is more deserving.

I knew a guy who died a few years back who went to nearly every home game for almost 40 years. If you think about how much that would of cost it would of been a lot. Many people dedicate their lives to the club to the point where they work their ass off in some ****ty job week in week out just so they can get to the games. Someone who does that is just as deserving as someone who played hundreds of games for us in getting a free ticket imo.

 

While I don't dispute some people have put their heart and soul into supporting the club, it is a touch different to keeping the club in the top flight for a decade or taking us to our only trophy of note.

 

I used to work in racing. We had (have) many people who receive 'honorary membership' of the RCA (racecourse association) thereby granting them free entry to any racecourse.

 

For example, a major sponsor who supported racing for many years has a pair for him and his wife. He is also regularly invited as a guest to various boxes and events. In return, he talks nothing but positively about the sport, always brings other potential sponsors to meetings and generally continues to support a sport in promotional/marketing terms that he once supported financially.

 

Most people in sport understand this deal. It's not about 'freebies' - it's about loyalty, gratitude and PR.

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What right does Stelling have to get involved with this? There's no connection between us and him.

 

FWIW I think if you set the example of giving certain people freebies, other people will also want freebies. Maybe Nicola has been a bit blunt with this policy, but I think it's beneficial in the long-term.

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Why doesn't Lowe get a free ticket, he built the stadium; why doesn't Mick Channon get a free ticket, he's our top scorer; why doesn't Anti Niemmi gtet a free ticket, he was great; why doesn't Peter Rodrigues get a free ticket, he captained the cup winners...in short, where would the line be drawn, that would cause even more bad feeling..

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Why doesn't Lowe get a free ticket, he built the stadium; why doesn't Mick Channon get a free ticket, he's our top scorer; why doesn't Anti Niemmi gtet a free ticket, he was great; why doesn't Peter Rodrigues get a free ticket, he captained the cup winners...in short, where would the line be drawn, that would cause even more bad feeling..

 

Absolutely, one rule for all, no shades of grey, no room for abuse. It's the only fair way.

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Le tiss pays for his ticket ffs. He goes to loads of games? What's the argument. Cortese should have been quiet. Matty and lawrie have said nothing for ages. At the time most saints fans wanted pardew to stay and also matty stuck up for frannie over his house. Any good mate would have done that. Cortese has done a great job but needs to sort out his pr desperately.

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Why doesn't Lowe get a free ticket, he built the stadium; why doesn't Mick Channon get a free ticket, he's our top scorer; why doesn't Anti Niemmi gtet a free ticket, he was great; why doesn't Peter Rodrigues get a free ticket, he captained the cup winners...in short, where would the line be drawn, that would cause even more bad feeling..

 

I actually think it would make commercial sense to let Channon, Rodrigues or Neimi have the occasional freebie, they might even be able to shift a few of those empty corporate seats if there were a few interesting people mincing about upstairs.

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I actually think it would make commercial sense to let Channon, Rodrigues or Neimi have the occasional freebie, they might even be able to shift a few of those empty corporate seats if there were a few interesting people mincing about upstairs.

 

Exactly. If a seat is going empty and people on here would object to Mick Channon or Peter Rodrigues having it, I have a word for them.

 

It rhymes with stunts.

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Le tiss pays for his ticket ffs. He goes to loads of games? What's the argument. Cortese should have been quiet. Matty and lawrie have said nothing for ages. At the time most saints fans wanted pardew to stay and also matty stuck up for frannie over his house. Any good mate would have done that. Cortese has done a great job but needs to sort out his pr desperately.
ah, you lay the blame solely at the door of NC..?they are all as bad as each other..but lets not pretend this is a big deal ffs..far more important things going on at the club than if a great gerat player who is a multi millionaire is entitled to free tickets..
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Don't see much wrong with everyone paying. Yes MLT did enough for a seat for life, but where's the line? Friends? Family? how many players and managers do you do it for? Adds up quickly.

 

I'd say charge everyone but make ex players etc special guests sometimes offering the occasional seat etc.

 

Spot on,

 

Should Terry Paine get a freebie, what about Mick Channon, Nick Holmes, what about the guy Brin from the mayflower show (oldest living saints player), or Ron Davies. It's where you draw the line. Do you have to play a certain amount of games or score a certain amount of goals, do you need to have turned down moves to other clubs? If you let some ex players in for free, you would only end up with someone paying who feels (or the supprters feel) is a worthy cause.I would have half a dozen explayers as special guests each game, and everyone else pays.

 

And to add, it's **** all to do with Stelling. Would he make the same rallying call for Terry Paine?

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Spot on,

 

Should Terry Paine get a freebie, what about Mick Channon, Nick Holmes, what about the guy Brin from the mayflower show (oldest living saints player), or Ron Davies. It's where you draw the line. Do you have to play a certain amount of games or score a certain amount of goals, do you need to have turned down moves to other clubs? If you let some ex players in for free, you would only end up with someone paying who feels (or the supprters feel) is a worthy cause.I would have half a dozen explayers as special guests each game, and everyone else pays.

 

And to add, it's **** all to do with Stelling. Would he make the same rallying call for Terry Paine?

 

But that's all you have to do. Simple. Every game you invite a rotation of ex players into the director's box.

And perhaps you could have a deal with them where they can buy tickets at reduced prices - or at least always get a ticket.

Or come for free as long as they host a table in the lounge.

Does anyone really object to former players having the odd freebie???

It's a fecking sad sad world if they do...

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But that's all you have to do. Simple. Every game you invite a rotation of ex players into the director's box.

And perhaps you could have a deal with them where they can buy tickets at reduced prices - or at least always get a ticket.

Or come for free as long as they host a table in the lounge.

Does anyone really object to former players having the odd freebie???

It's a fecking sad sad world if they do...

 

Exactly, whenever I have gone in the corporate section one of the highlights is listening to anecdotes from the old pros and their views on the game.

 

Plus people like Le Tiss and Lawrie Mac are always in the media and have contacts throughout the game - how does alienating them benefit SFC in any way at all?

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