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Now this is ambition...

 

"I don't just expect to be promoted this year, I want us to be champions. When we are promoted to the Premier League I don't want people to think of us as immediate candidates for relegation. I see Southampton as a top-six Premier League club. Would I pay a player £100,000 or even £200,000 a week? Not if we were in the Premier League with a 32,000 capacity stadium. But if we were in the Champions League and had re-developed the ground to 50,000 then I might consider it."

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Now this is ambition...

 

"I don't just expect to be promoted this year, I want us to be champions. When we are promoted to the Premier League I don't want people to think of us as immediate candidates for relegation. I see Southampton as a top-six Premier League club. Would I pay a player £100,000 or even £200,000 a week? Not if we were in the Premier League with a 32,000 capacity stadium. But if we were in the Champions League and had re-developed the ground to 50,000 then I might consider it."

 

No it isn't. It's a quote until it actually happens. Some good stuff in there but also some questionable bits too. Anyway it's an interesting read, thanks for posting.

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He said: "Yes, Lawrie McMenemy and Matt Le Tissier have criticised me but they should know no one is more important than the club.

"I simply couldn't accept all these people trying to get freebies here, freebies there."

 

Snide little bastard trying to smear Matt with that.

IMHO of course ;-)

 

Matt pays for his own tickets and sits in the stands when he isnt on sky.

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I think you mean the man is a self promoting back stabbing little creep.

Legend in his own lunchtime perhaps.

 

Lol. Don't sit on the fence, tell us how you feel? Who's back has he stabbed, as far as I can see he's always been frank and up front with everyone, whether being friendly or not.

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Lol. Don't sit on the fence' date=' tell us how you feel? Whose back has he stabbed, as far as I can see he's always been frank and up front with everyone.[/quote']

 

Exactly. What we know from Cortese BBC interview last year is that its other people (perhaps these "hangers on" he refers too here) that are the back stabbers trying to destabilise the club.

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Can't disagree with this, but if it gets us results, then IMO no one should be moaning.

 

I suppose that is dependent upon whether all you care about is results and how much you are bothered by some of the smaller errors of judgement. It's sort of like how I'm not too keen on us winning promotion or at least staying there long term as my participation in terms of going to games will be dramatically reduced. In that sense I'm selfish. I would rather see saints being less successful and get to go to the majority of games than see saints doing well in the premiership but only being able to go to a handful.

 

No doubt some will now go overboard about this interview and w*nk themselves silly over players coming here and being paid £100,000 but I hope that the majority of comments will be more measured as they have been thus far and that people won't resort to abuse if someone posts something that isn't calling Cortese a genius.

 

We live in hope.

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This bit made me lol the most:

 

"After we clinched promotion with a win at Plymouth the players had a bit of a celebration on the coach trip back."When we got home there was a lot of mess and I stayed behind to help the driver clean up because I didn't think it was fair for him to be left to do it on his own."

Cortese is different like that.

 

I mean why bother doing something like that if you are then going to boast about it to the Sun. It makes it look like the primary reason you did it was for something like this and to be 'different.' Facepalm indeed.

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Just words on a paper designed to get fans excited and achieve a bit of decent PR. I'll believe it when I see it!

 

I'll ask again, how does that not count as "ambition"?

 

"See it", see what exactly? It is ambition, do you not know what that means?

 

Have you noticed Cortese has led Southampton from 68th in England to 21st in England in little over 2 years? Have you noticed the training ground granted planning permission that wouldn't look out of place at a top Premier League club? Are these not signs of intent backed with resources? This interview shows his ambitions for what he wants to happen next.

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This interview has taken place nearly 5 months after the event. That is quite some pre-planning you are accusing him of!

 

It certainly an excellent anecdote to have up your sleeve for PR opportunities such as this. If someone else was being interviewed and mentioned it then fair enough, but for him to bring it up himself? Poor show.

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I'll ask again, how does that not count as "ambition"?

 

"See it", see what exactly? It is ambition, do you not know what that means?

 

Have you noticed Cortese has led Southampton from 68th in England to 21st in England in little over 2 years? Have you noticed the training ground granted planning permission that wouldn't look out of place at a top Premier League club? Are these not signs of intent backed with resources? This interview shows his ambitions for what he wants to happen next.

 

I was just about to reply with an apology but then you got all boring and irritating again by editing the post and delving into minute detail that is totally unnecessary. Please refrain from that or we can't have a discussion and I'll stick you back on ignore.

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ANYWAY

 

Back on topic, I guess it is some of the Cortese personality traits I object to rather than Cortese himself (who actually has achieved the main job of appointing and supporting a manager well although that is a heck of a lot easier when you are able to make a seven million pound loss!). More specifically, it's when those personality traits impact on myself and my ability to support SFC. I suppose it also grates slightly because with the money we now have I really feel we could do more to attract fans to the club. With just a little imagination we could be getting much higher crowds IMO and I think some of the little things have left certain sections of fans feel like they are a bit of a commodity rather than truly valued. It is inevitable that with premiership ambitions, this neglect of the fans will get worse and I feel that Cortese is really missing an opportunity to mark himself as 'different' by really connecting with the fans and listening to their input and ideas (not necessarily acting upon them).

 

Love the results, love some of the decision making on the football side but really question parts of his personality, certainly this interview and why he felt it was really necessary to highlight that he stayed behind to clear up or that we may look to spend a ton of money at some vague point in the future. It just sounds like soundbites for PR and to placate a gullible fanbase, but what do I know? No doubt I'll get the abuse from the usual sources but I am aware that a sizeable number share this view, including a current saints player.

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Personally i don't see how a Saints fan could read that and not feel positive about where we are headed.

If winning a cup, promotion, sitting 1st in the championship etc does not make you believe the guy then nothing will.

We are very lucky we have a guy with ambition and wanting to achive things then someone simply interested in money.

 

Good to see the sun write a nice article on him. We don't get to hear from him often but when he does you always get the impression he truly gives a **** about our club. Just a shame others don't share his enthusiasm and simply want to keep grinding the axe.

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Personally i don't see how a Saints fan could read that and not feel positive about where we are headed.

If winning a cup, promotion, sitting 1st in the championship etc does not make you believe the guy then nothing will.

We are very lucky we have a guy with ambition and wanting to achive things then someone simply interested in money.

 

Good to see the sun write a nice article on him. We don't get to hear from him often but when he does you always get the impression he truly gives a **** about our club. Just a shame others don't share his enthusiasm and simply want to keep grinding the axe.

 

Good decision making and outspending all rivals does not mean you suddenly believe everything that comes out of someones mouth. I just don't believe we will ever be spending £200,000 a week for a player. It sounds like me to be the sort of thing that someone says to get fans excites whilst not actually committing to anything.

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Pretty sure teams like Forest, Leicester, West Ham etc have all spent more then us?

I don't look at it in a "who we bought" way. I look at it more in a "who we have kept" way. Seeing as the chairman is the one who negotiates contracts I'd say he has done pretty well in getting players to sign. If he thinks it is possible for Saints to be a top 6 side with an extension of 18k and then pay someone 200k a week then i believe it is possible. If we continue our climb of the last 12 months then who knows. I for one would rather look at the positives then the negatives. Positivity brings success and a team atmosphere that cannot be bought.

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ANYWAY

 

Back on topic, I guess it is some of the Cortese personality traits I object to rather than Cortese himself (who actually has achieved the main job of appointing and supporting a manager well although that is a heck of a lot easier when you are able to make a seven million pound loss!). More specifically, it's when those personality traits impact on myself and my ability to support SFC. I suppose it also grates slightly because with the money we now have I really feel we could do more to attract fans to the club. With just a little imagination we could be getting much higher crowds IMO and I think some of the little things have left certain sections of fans feel like they are a bit of a commodity rather than truly valued. It is inevitable that with premiership ambitions, this neglect of the fans will get worse and I feel that Cortese is really missing an opportunity to mark himself as 'different' by really connecting with the fans and listening to their input and ideas (not necessarily acting upon them).

 

Love the results, love some of the decision making on the football side but really question parts of his personality, certainly this interview and why he felt it was really necessary to highlight that he stayed behind to clear up or that we may look to spend a ton of money at some vague point in the future. It just sounds like soundbites for PR and to placate a gullible fanbase, but what do I know? No doubt I'll get the abuse from the usual sources but I am aware that a sizeable number share this view, including a current saints player.

 

Which current saints player is this then? He already has made efforts to listen to fans views through the regular fans q&a meetings he has hosted. Hes here to do a job and to be honest hes done a tremendous one so far. With his outspoken personality not everyone is going to love the guy but as long as he keeps putting the club first thatl do nicely for 9/10 saints fans

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I dont see how any genuine sane saints fan cannot be excited by what is happening to our club at the moment. Think back to a little over 2 years ago and remember how depressed we all were and the feeling of despair and anger at watching our great club that we love dying in front of us.

 

Think back over the years to the chairmen we have had in place that due to their lack of vision and neglect of our club have led us to protest in the ground and march through the city in a desperate attempt to do something to change the fortunes of the club so many care about so passionately.

 

I can remember the day we signed kevin keegan who as we all know had been crowned the European footballer of the year for the previous 2 seasons, i can remember when we won the fa cup and the effect that had on the city, i can recall finishing runners up in the league playing great football in 1984 and remember the pride i felt when le tissier was turning down various clubs offering much more money to show loyalty to southampton fc.

 

These events along with all the other great moments i have enjoyed over the years being a saints fan however do not rank as important as the day Markus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese walked into our club with their vision. What they saw was the potential of this club, with the stadium, size of the fanbase etc. Of course Cortese is not responsible for scoring the goals on the pitch but he has been responsible for identifying the talent to make this happen. This includes the right manager for the job and the right players to get us back to where we belong in the top division.

 

It is clear that Cortese has been bitten by the football bug and genuinely cares about southampton football club as a fan. He is a successful businessman who could clearly be off on other probably more financially rewarding projects but is getting huge enjoyment from what he is doing here.

 

We have proven we can be a top 6 club in the top division, we were doing it on a regular basis in the early to mid 1980s. Of course football has changed since then but so have we. Back then we were restricted by the size of the dell. Lawrie McMenemy used to call us a big club playing in a small container. He also commented on our passionate support saying that in his homeland of the North East they danced in the street but in Southampton they care just as much about their club but the fans dance in their kitchens!

 

I have spent some time living in the North East myself and used to go and watch both Newcastle and Sunderland and I can honestly say that the depth of loyalty and passion of Southampton fans is on a par. And of course much closer to home we often had to put up with people saying how great the Portsmouth fans were during there spell in the premier league...... where have all these great fans gone now

 

Cortese has a vision for our club and unlike crazy chairmen like Michael Knighton and George Reynolds it is very realistic. With the right planning and structure that Cortese is putting in place there is absolutely no reason why we cannot go back to competing in the top half of the top division and getting back into European football.

 

There will of course be doubters but sadly in life some people are just born naturally negative and depressed. These people who question Cortese's ability to lead us back to being a successful Premier league side also probably doubted his willingness to splash out on players. Yet we invested in Lambert and Fonte etc with the sort of money most teams in the division we were in at the time spent on the whole of their squad. These same people probably questioned his ability to hang onto our top talent and yes while we have sadly lost Chamberlain we have kept hold of Lallana who i think is a more important player to us right now and every player that was nearing the end of his contract who we wanted to keep has signed a contract extension over the last few months because they want to be part of what is happening here. These doubters questioned when Cortese brought in Nigel Adkins but he has delivered us a team that won promotion playing great football. These doubters then said this team would not be good enough for the championship and Cortese needed to invest in the squad. That investment has been shown in Cork and Fox especially but what both he and Adkins identified was this team was largely good enough to win promotion again and a large part of that was the team spirit that has been created.

 

There are still people who are unhappy with Cortese because he has charged people to park in the car park to avoid people exploiting the club by parking there all day for free and walking into work in the city. Some are upset that great players and managers of our past are not given free tickets despite the fact that fans and even the chairman has to pay, this is a business after all.

 

Surely it is better to focus on everything great that has been achieved since Cortese has walked into our club and remember he has delivered on everything he has set out to achieve to date and lets look at the the championship table and see who currently sits proudly at the top. Lets enjoy this time and lets look forward to the future because the plans and ambitions of our chairman are very exciting and achieveable. I feel blessed to have Cortese as our chairman and wouldnt swap him for anyone.

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ANYWAY

 

Back on topic, I guess it is some of the Cortese personality traits I object to rather than Cortese himself (who actually has achieved the main job of appointing and supporting a manager well although that is a heck of a lot easier when you are able to make a seven million pound loss!). More specifically, it's when those personality traits impact on myself and my ability to support SFC. I suppose it also grates slightly because with the money we now have I really feel we could do more to attract fans to the club. With just a little imagination we could be getting much higher crowds IMO and I think some of the little things have left certain sections of fans feel like they are a bit of a commodity rather than truly valued. It is inevitable that with premiership ambitions, this neglect of the fans will get worse and I feel that Cortese is really missing an opportunity to mark himself as 'different' by really connecting with the fans and listening to their input and ideas (not necessarily acting upon them).

 

Love the results, love some of the decision making on the football side but really question parts of his personality, certainly this interview and why he felt it was really necessary to highlight that he stayed behind to clear up or that we may look to spend a ton of money at some vague point in the future. It just sounds like soundbites for PR and to placate a gullible fanbase, but what do I know? No doubt I'll get the abuse from the usual sources but I am aware that a sizeable number share this view, including a current saints player.

 

Remember you saying the players absolutely love Cortese because he's a big believer in player power etc (through another one of your 'sources'). Rare words to hear spoken about a chairman. I guess you still maintain this?

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We are lucky to have him. What an article, for him to come out with this stuff means he actually believes in the long term vision and that we will get there. All those whining about petty issues like ticket taxes, parking and so on, get real this club is being dragged in the right way. Enjoy the ride.

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I think this is a good bit of PR to promote the club. I also think we are just not used to 'straight talking' at SFC even looking back to the days of Askham as chairman and the selling of Shearer Flowers and the full back (name forgotten due to Stella Artois) to Blackburn to ensure they won the Prem League.

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I think this is a good bit of PR to promote the club. I also think we are just not used to 'straight talking' at SFC even looking back to the days of Askham as chairman and the selling of Shearer Flowers and the full back (name forgotten due to Stella Artois) to Blackburn to ensure they won the Prem League.

 

Jeff Kenna

 

Yeah i didnt like the way they took him, shearer and flowers from us. They also tried for le tissier but he apparently turned them down.

 

Its hard to believe Blackburn won the league in the mid 1990s. It will be almost impossible to achieve that again and the success was never sustainable. The thing with Blackburn is the town has a population of around 80,000.

 

Southampton has a huge catchment area so if we got back to the premier league we could quite easily pull in crowds of up to 50,000 for certain games especially if we were performing well on the pitch

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"We have a togetherness and a happy environment where everyone looks forward to coming to work."

 

 

And that my friends is it.

 

Nothing more or less.

 

Still waiting for some fans (on here mainly) to understand that concept. I know it is a real trial being happy BEFORE going into watch Saints play football after so many years.

 

I don't want a Politician in charge of my football club. I don't want a CEO in charge of ensuring Shareholder value. I want a complete Cn*t in charge who wants my club to be successful, does what needs to be done and to give me Pride in being a supporter.

 

As long as he keeps moving us forwards he can do what the hell he likes.

 

When we stagnate or start to decline then I will worry about it. But right now, he may be a complete cn*t, but he's our cn*t and I'm VERY happy with that.

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Cortese said: "Selling Alex was one of the saddest moments for me.

 

"I didn't want to sell him and I still feel it was not right, whether I got a good deal in the end or not.

 

"But it is hard when you have a player who wants to leave and I could see signs it was getting to him.

 

"So I rang Ivan Gazidis to sort it out.

 

"I said 'Meet me face to face and if we can't agree a deal within an hour promise me you will walk away and never come back.'

 

"Ivan agreed and turned up flanked with lawyers while I sat there on my own.

 

"He made me an offer and I flatly refused it and instead told him what I wanted.

 

"He went away for a while to discuss it with his team and then came back and we got the deal done. It was a good deal for us but a sad day.

 

Fan...bl00dy tastic.

 

See Hypo found yet another thread to troll on, why entertain him MLG, he is what he is, and that's not a bus passenger.

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As DB quoted ""We have a togetherness and a happy environment where everyone looks forward to coming to work."

 

That was the main thing I took away from it too.

 

Most of that interview was kinda creepy, but I think I can put that down to language and cultural differences.

 

It was really bizarre to see this article though. It's like they are taking the wraps off a little now that we seem consolidated in a decent game plan. It will be interesting to see how much the club opens up to the fans if this run can be maintained even longer.

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I see hypo is killing another thread and will no doubt claim his plea for free speech

 

How anyone can say NC is self promoting?? You can count these interviews like this on one hand....

And he gets stick for shutting out the media so why the "self promoting" claims when he dares to speak

 

Hypo, one for you. You really are a sad pathetic creature

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Just words on a paper designed to get fans excited and achieve a bit of decent PR. I'll believe it when I see it!

 

Great, tell me when anyone in football speaks to the press it's anything different

 

Seriously, what is your beef. Why do you kill any enjoyment people get from reading/listening to what NC rarely says

I have no doubt that you have bashed him for blocking out the media/not talking enough

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ANYWAY

 

Back on topic, I guess it is some of the Cortese personality traits I object to rather than Cortese himself (who actually has achieved the main job of appointing and supporting a manager well although that is a heck of a lot easier when you are able to make a seven million pound loss!). More specifically, it's when those personality traits impact on myself and my ability to support SFC. I suppose it also grates slightly because with the money we now have I really feel we could do more to attract fans to the club. With just a little imagination we could be getting much higher crowds IMO and I think some of the little things have left certain sections of fans feel like they are a bit of a commodity rather than truly valued. It is inevitable that with premiership ambitions, this neglect of the fans will get worse and I feel that Cortese is really missing an opportunity to mark himself as 'different' by really connecting with the fans and listening to their input and ideas (not necessarily acting upon them).

 

Love the results, love some of the decision making on the football side but really question parts of his personality, certainly this interview and why he felt it was really necessary to highlight that he stayed behind to clear up or that we may look to spend a ton of money at some vague point in the future. It just sounds like soundbites for PR and to placate a gullible fanbase, but what do I know? No doubt I'll get the abuse from the usual sources but I am aware that a sizeable number share this view, including a current saints player.

 

Great post Hypo.

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Good decision making and outspending all rivals does not mean you suddenly believe everything that comes out of someones mouth. I just don't believe we will ever be spending £200,000 a week for a player. It sounds like me to be the sort of thing that someone says to get fans excites whilst not actually committing to anything.
Exactly, us competing in the Champs League is such a long way off its really not worth thinking about. I'm torn between loving the positivity in this article to feeling like its a lot of hot air and hype.
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I was just about to reply with an apology but then you got all boring and irritating again by editing the post and delving into minute detail that is totally unnecessary. Please refrain from that or we can't have a discussion and I'll stick you back on ignore.

 

Bet that scared him!

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