Gemmel Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 http://www.hampshire.police.uk/Internet/news/Operation_Delphin.htm I know the link was posted on the other page, but just in case people arent paging back....here it is. Complete joke of an article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Just read the article. Pigs wonder why they are so hated by a lot of the public. They do nothing to enhance their reputation by producing articles like that. ****ing hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 "The disorder in 2010 outside St Mary’s Stadium did not occur because Portsmouth fans were let out in to the north car park. It occurred because a number of fans tried to breach the sterile area in Britannia Road to get to the Pompey fans." Just a small selection of the nonsense in the Hampshire OB article. ...yes, because you let them out at the same time you ****tards! What a load of ********. Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 (edited) Has anyone else noticed that under the question "What legislation are you doing this under" (or words to that affect), they don't actually answer the question by quoting an appropriate act. Makes my blood boil the amount of 'weazelness' involved in policing football matches in this country. For the last 30 years football fans in this country have been treated like scum. Edited 8 November, 2011 by Thorpe-le-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 sort of propaganda you would get in a police state, talk about bending rules and facts. Does it mean we will not be locked in after game? Behave. It wouldn't surprise me if the coaches leave at 9am and depart Fratton at 6pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I'm going to put my ballot in, but still undecided whether to go or not. The alternative is a day in the pub, £42 richer, with no OB, coaches, or skates in sight, the freedom to move, and plenty of beer at hand. Unfortunately, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to not go. Got to go. As **** as it sounds its just got to be done. Plus we can't NOT sell out down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Behave. It wouldn't surprise me if the coaches leave at 9am and depart Fratton at 6pm. nor me and as for this""Q: I like to enjoy a drink at the match. Will there be drink at the ground? Can I bring it with me? A: No, I’m afraid you can’t. The logistics of Fratton Park are such that there are no bars at the away supporters end, but there will be plenty of access to soft drink, hot drinks and fast food " do they mean the one drink place in the away end that ran out of drinks before the start on our last visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I'm curious. Is it possible to have a sterile area in Portsmouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eharty9 Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Pompey will have a bubble trip when they come to SMS in April then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Q: I like to enjoy a drink at the match. Will there be drink at the ground? Can I bring it with me? A: No, I’m afraid you can’t. The logistics of Fratton Park are such that there are no bars at the away supporters end, but there will be plenty of access to soft drink, hot drinks and fast food concessions. It is illegal to carry or consume alcohol on a coach to a designated football match. This is prohibited under the terms of the Football Spectators Act 1989. What a fun packed day the OB and Cortese have in store for everyone. And I deliberately mention Cortese because let us not forget this decision was as a result of talks between the OB and the club. The best outcome would be for there to be empty seats. That would well and truely p/ss on the fire of the police/Cortese claiming a great success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I'm curious. Is it possible to have a sterile area in Portsmouth? Lots and lots of Domestos. Several tankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I actually think the best outcome will be for all this planning to fall flat on its ar*e. If 60 saints coaches manage to get attacked it will be a PR disaster for the OB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Pompey will have a bubble trip when they come to SMS in April then. we should provide the same toilet facilities and drink /food arrangements as they give us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 The best outcome would be for there to be empty seats. That would well and truely p/ss on the fire of the police/Cortese claiming a great success. Sadly, I don't believe it would. I would actually almost bet on the fact that the police are hoping for lower numbers, as it makes their job easier. And I doubt the clubs are all that bothered either. It strikes me that the clubs really wouldn't be fussed if the police "instructed" them that all future games had to be home-fans only. It would certainly save spending out on such a mammoth policing effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Regarding the mystery over the allocation I have a theory. It could well be 3200, but if we don't sell enough tickets they'll say it's 2500 and create a "sterile area" just so the poor sales can't be used against the police state tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I don't give a f**k about proving a point by not selling out. How any Saints fan can pass at an opportunity to see us win at Fratton is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Sadly, I don't believe it would. I would actually almost bet on the fact that the police are hoping for lower numbers, as it makes their job easier. And I doubt the clubs are all that bothered either. It strikes me that the clubs really wouldn't be fussed if the police "instructed" them that all future games had to be home-fans only. It would certainly save spending out on such a mammoth policing effort. Well the attitude towards fans from outside the area by not posting out coach passes speaks volumes. It is utterly ludicrous. And this leads me to believe that it's probably Cortese's idea because a) he doesn't care about fans b) he loves the idea of charging a booking fee without having p+p to pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I don't give a f**k about proving a point by not selling out. How any Saints fan can pass at an opportunity to see us win at Fratton is beyond me. You pay for my diesel to drive down and pick up coach tickets (60 quid will cover it) and i'll hold your hand on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 You pay for my diesel to drive down and pick up coach tickets (60 quid will cover it) and i'll hold your hand on the day. No. You're clearly not interested enough in going if you don't want to pay that. God knows how though. A potential win at Fratton is priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 No. You're clearly not interested enough in going if you don't want to pay that. God knows how though. A potential win at Fratton is priceless. I've not missed a derby match home or away since 1996. But this time the OB/Cortese (as the whole bubble scheme is as a result of talks between both parties + PFC) have made it too much effort for what will effectively be a police state outing. I guess that this sort of thing is normal in Italy/Spain where they are used to dictatorial rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Well the attitude towards fans from outside the area by not posting out coach passes speaks volumes. It is utterly ludicrous. And this leads me to believe that it's probably Cortese's idea because a) he doesn't care about fans b) he loves the idea of charging a booking fee without having p+p to pay for. I do agree with this. The bubble trip; I don't necessarily agree that we've completely bypassed other measures (such as holdback and segregation after the game) to get to where we are, but clearly something had to change from years gone past and while the bubble is draconian, it's a tried and tested procedure for minimising trouble. The sad actions of a number of fans from both sides has therefore unfortunately led to this. Not mailing out coach tickets though is just unexplainable, at least by any rational logic. And it totally smacks of making attending the match as hard as possible for supporters, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 You pay for my diesel to drive down and pick up coach tickets (60 quid will cover it) and i'll hold your hand on the day. Apologies if I've missed it, but can you not collect your coach ticket on the morning of the game, would make sense for those that have to travel any distance to SMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Apologies if I've missed it, but can you not collect your coach ticket on the morning of the game, would make sense for those that have to travel any distance to SMS? That would be logical, wouldn't it? No, the club have said that they will not allow that. The coach ticket has to be collected prior to the day itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Apologies if I've missed it, but can you not collect your coach ticket on the morning of the game, would make sense for those that have to travel any distance to SMS? The ticket office will be closed on the day of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 That would be logical, wouldn't it? No, the club have said that they will not allow that. The coach ticket has to be collected prior to the day itself. has anyone asked the Club why they insist on making it as hard as possible to get a ticket for this match?? I honestly can't be bothered to jump through all the hoops only to be fccked around on the day of the match. Plus it goes against my better instincts of being told what I can and cannot do. I predict us not selling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Háve you asked the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 has anyone asked the Club why they insist on making it as hard as possible to get a ticket for this match?? I honestly can't be bothered to jump through all the hoops only to be fccked around on the day of the match. Plus it goes against my better instincts of being told what I can and cannot do. I predict us not selling out. Sadly I can see this happening too. In previous years we've had a much lower allocation and it's always gone well beyond the ballot. Add in the travel restrictions, most notably for those who live outside Southampton, plus all the other little bits and pieces (plus that it's on terrestrial TV) and I just wouldn't be surprised if we were well below capacity on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 has anyone asked the Club why they insist on making it as hard as possible to get a ticket for this match?? I honestly can't be bothered to jump through all the hoops only to be fccked around on the day of the match. Plus it goes against my better instincts of being told what I can and cannot do. I predict us not selling out. I too agree with this post. A group of around ten of our regular crowd were up to going to this,but no way are we going to spend our hard earned money to then be treated like children(we are all over forty), by both the clubs and the police. Think we will all make a trip into town to watch the match in one of the pubs instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Be so disappointing if we fail to sale this out, especially considering they will sale out down here under the same coach arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Be so disappointing if we fail to sale this out, especially considering they will sale out down here under the same coach arrangements. Why would they if we don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 The FSF made a few suggestions here about what can be done, though even if implemented the impact would be marginal: http://footballsupportersfederation.org/news/Bubble-trouble-for-Burnley-fans.php In our experience at the FSF it’s very difficult (if not impossible) to get police to backtrack from a bubble match once they’ve set their sights on it BUT there are a number of things we’ll be asking the police and clubs to promise: Disabled fans must be exempt from this. Exiled fans should be picked up en route or have tickets posted upon proof of address – this should be easy to administer as they’ll be season ticket holders anyway. The police change the timings on this trip – forcing people to wait in an empty stadium for more than two hours is unacceptable. We’d recommend fans email the above demands to their club and think of ways they can fight these matches happening in future. Can't see Nicola agreeing to pick me up from my house in London somehow but it might be worth emailing the club to try to get it toconcede on collecting a coach pass in person. I see also that Wales based Wolves fans managed to get individual concessions allowing independent travel to a match with Cardiff but that was 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Considering it'll be very difficult for me and my mates to get tickets for this game plus the ever-watchful eye of the OB castrating the fun from the event, I think it's the KA and numerous pints for me instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Just wondering what is gona happen when I refuse to get on the coach back after ...and say others did too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Its obvious, the police would be happiest if no away fans came to either match, so theyve insisted on these measures to make it as difficult as possible to put people off going. The fewer people attend, the easier their job is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Just wondering what is gona happen when I refuse to get on the coach back after ...and say others did too. You'll be arrested and you'll receive a banning order. That's the best case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Just wondering what is gona happen when I refuse to get on the coach back after ...and say others did too. Absolutley. The whole thing is a crock of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Just wondering what is gona happen when I refuse to get on the coach back after ...and say others did too. Why would you even want to do that? You've paid good money for the coach trip, chances are we will just have torn them a new arshole in their own backyard, and you want to leave the safety of a police escort and take your chances on the streets of the English Baghdad. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Háve you asked the club? Not sure I want to go on the Club's blacklist and be refused a season ticket next year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Just wondering what is gona happen when I refuse to get on the coach back after ...and say others did too. They'll threaten you with arrest and you'll get on the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Have handed in my ballot paper as I've done at least 6-7 away games already and that will more than likely rise to 8 if I include Doncaster-(?!) as Bristol City's Sold Out! I take it that the OB will be travelling with us there and back on the coaches or what!?! Also we'l all be F***** if the coaches to get glassed/bricked as I for one won't fancy travelling back by coach with Glass and that but we'l see! COYR !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Have handed in my ballot paper as I've done at least 6-7 away games already and that will more than likely rise to 8 if I include Doncaster-(?!) as Bristol City's Sold Out! I take it that the OB will be travelling with us there and back on the coaches or what!?! Also we'l all be F***** if the coaches to get glassed/bricked as I for one won't fancy travelling back by coach with Glass and that but we'l see! COYR !!! Your posts really remind me of... [video=youtube;xgMgkl-gRxk] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Your posts really remind me of... [video=youtube;xgMgkl-gRxk] Is this for Real or is it a Joke Dune Mate just for clarification!?! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Is this for Real or is it a Joke Dune Mate just for clarification!?! Thanks! Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 Both. Right OK n Good 1 Mate... ! But Dw I Can Take It ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 OK we've all had a moan about the situation but now it's time to stop crying and all the soft ***** looking for excuses to melt away from this trip should man up and just tough it out for a couple of hours of inconvenience. Your team could do with you there and if we walk away with 3 points it will stay with all those present for a long time (1984 is still particularly sweet) while all the other lightweights will be forever saying "I wish I was there". Priority for Brighton away tickets should go to a ballot of attendees on Dec 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 OK we've all had a moan about the situation but now it's time to stop crying and all the soft ***** looking for excuses to melt away from this trip should man up and just tough it out for a couple of hours of inconvenience. Completely agree. It's the first game I looked for on the fixture list. The one away game where you can guarantee the adrenaline will be flowing whatever happens. £42 and a couple of hours fannying around on coaches for the chance of rimming Pompey at Fratton? Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 we should provide the same toilet facilities and drink /food arrangements as they give us So we give them one bucket to **** in and eat out of then, well that will bring back fond memories of their experiences in the Navy then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 If we don't sell out I will hang myself. Would be the most disappointing thing that has ever happened in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 OK we've all had a moan about the situation but now it's time to stop crying and all the soft ***** looking for excuses to melt away from this trip should man up and just tough it out for a couple of hours of inconvenience. Your team could do with you there and if we walk away with 3 points it will stay with all those present for a long time (1984 is still particularly sweet) while all the other lightweights will be forever saying "I wish I was there". Priority for Brighton away tickets should go to a ballot of attendees on Dec 18th. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 November, 2011 Share Posted 9 November, 2011 Of course we will sell out out allocation at fratton. We would do twice over. As they would at ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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