Huffton Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 That would be roughly 50 coaches worth. Good luck keeping that lot safe...
RedArmy Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 3,200 tickets? NICE! Would love to see that end full of flares.
latter day saint Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 3,200 tickets? NICE! Would love to see that end full of flares. this would be good. very good.
Badvoc Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 As a matter of interest, as we have no choice in travel arrangements for the game, could the club/Hants Police be liable to any litigation should any injuries occur to Saints travelling on official coaches? Not sure whether the fact we don't have a choice here potemtially opens them up to any personal injury claims sustained by antisocial behaviour? I would hope this is buttoned up in case of the odd brick thrown from a road bridge..
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 What is really going to get on my wick is Hants Constab containing us until it is 'safe' to leave. Where was this sensible tactic during the FA cup match? Hypocrites.
70's Mike Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 3,200 tickets? NICE! Would love to see that end full of flares. not blo*dy likely it would catch fire
Um Bongo Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 What is really going to get on my wick is Hants Constab containing us until it is 'safe' to leave. Where was this sensible tactic during the FA cup match? Hypocrites. Given the amount of wining we did after the Millwall game, and the fact they weren't kept in, Isn't this what people wanted????
positivepete Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 I was chatting to a Leeds fan today and he was saying this arrangement is normal for them. They only get the tickets when they are at the away ground to stop tickets being exchanged in service stations. At least it is a one off for us if it happens that way.
dune Posted 18 October, 2011 Posted 18 October, 2011 3,200 tickets? NICE! The away end only holds about 2000 and we always struggle to sell them. It would be embarrassing if we were given 3,200 as we wouldn't get close to selling them all.
alehouseboys Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 The away end only holds about 2000 and we always struggle to sell them. It would be embarrassing if we were given 3,200 as we wouldn't get close to selling them all. It holds 3000 but we'll get nearer half of that with a big chunk of segregation either side of us. We don't "always" struggle to sell them, they haven't always sold out immediately on the ballot but once they opened up to all they go. 9,000 wasn't anywhere near enough in 1984, there were even forgeries for the fartton end going around certain section of Saints fans We will have no trouble selling these tickets, there wont be enough to satisfy demand.
shurlock Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if using the bingo buses has resulted in a larger allocation.
100%Red&White Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/law-and-order/hampshire_police_put_strict_rules_on_saints_fans_attending_december_s_south_coast_derby_1_3163226 3200 is the maximum they could get for a league game at SMS with a capacity of 32,000, the skates give up to 3000 (because they struggle to fill their little ground) to visiting clubs. There’s not a chance they would give “the scummers” more than usual opponents and the same as we could offer them when their place only holds little over 21,000. Unfortunately you can’t believe everything you read, their own paper obviously doesn’t even know how many tickets they normally give to visitors, in our Echo on Monday, Adam Leitch said we had “just over 2000” at Derby (it was “just over” 2,600) and on West Ham’s OS it says they had “3,800”, it was 3,168. We will get considerably less than “3,200” at the sh*thole.
John D Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 According to the official Pompey website we have got 3,200 tickets! Can't see season tickets holders taking up that allocation
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 According to the official Pompey website we have got 3,200 tickets! With all the disinfectant in the world they won't be able to make "sterile areas" in Pompey. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/home/Pompey-v-Southampton-Important-Information-2690.aspx And it does indeed say 3200 which is 1200 more than we've received the past few times. We will struggle to shift all these mark my words.
stevegrant Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 We will struggle to shift all these mark my words. Bizarrely, with the usual 2100 allocation down there, I'd have agreed with you, as a lot of people simply can't be arsed with a ballot. However, with 3200, those who would have been thinking about going but weren't sure about the ballot will have been persuaded by the 50% increase in the likelihood of getting a ticket.
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Bizarrely, with the usual 2100 allocation down there, I'd have agreed with you, as a lot of people simply can't be arsed with a ballot. However, with 3200, those who would have been thinking about going but weren't sure about the ballot will have been persuaded by the 50% increase in the likelihood of getting a ticket. You are forgetting that even when they've gone to general sale (database only of course) the past few times they have not been snapped up in a few hours or even a few days. The fact of the matter is that Saints are a family club and families make up the bulk of our support. Families don't do Pompey games.
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 With all the disinfectant in the world they won't be able to make "sterile areas" in Pompey. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/home/Pompey-v-Southampton-Important-Information-2690.aspx And it does indeed say 3200 which is 1200 more than we've received the past few times. We will struggle to shift all these mark my words. If we do not sell all of these and quickly, I will never go to another Saints game again such would be my utter disgust with those around me at future matches.
100%Red&White Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 fookin 'ell they really have given us 3,200 stands corrected hope they've got a big car park for 60ish coaches. They must be taking the segregation out of the home support to squeeze 3,200 in that end. There'll only be around 17k skates in the ground
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 With all the disinfectant in the world they won't be able to make "sterile areas" in Pompey. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/home/Pompey-v-Southampton-Important-Information-2690.aspx And it does indeed say 3200 which is 1200 more than we've received the past few times. We will struggle to shift all these mark my words. That's going to be 60-70 coaches I reckon, logistical nightmare getting them to Fratton and unloaded.
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 If we do not sell all of these and quickly, I will never go to another Saints game again such would be my utter disgust with those around me at future matches. I've been to every derby game in recent times (first was at the Dell when Merrington was in charge) and I just don't think I can be bothered this time. What I particularly don't like is where the club state you have to pick up your coach pass (they will not post them out) before the day of the game. So what is the window for picking coach passes up? If you don't live locally it could be a right pain in the arse having to make a special trip (costing 60 pounds in diesel) or attending a home game that you hadn't planned to just before the Pompey game. It's like having to jump through hoops to jump through even more hoops.
100%Red&White Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Bizarrely, with the usual 2100 allocation down there, I'd have agreed with you, as a lot of people simply can't be arsed with a ballot. However, with 3200, those who would have been thinking about going but weren't sure about the ballot will have been persuaded by the 50% increase in the likelihood of getting a ticket. I don't know why they're bothering with a ballot for this now, just put them straight on sale. Totally disagree with Dune, unless our form takes a disastrous downturn this will sell out, particularly after the ballot. All those 'lads' saying they wouldn't bother as it would just be 1500 lesser-types on the bingo buses can now go as any 'lad' that wants a ticket should get one. Payback time.
Wes Tender Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 It'll be interesting to see whether the Pompey fans who travel to Southampton in April will be subjected to the same restraints. If not, I for one will be kicking up a fuss. Going by coach from SMS is a massive inconvenience for me and will also cost me more money, my original plan was to get a train direct from Croydon into Fratton. As I don't wear colours to games anyway, it would have been relatively straightforward to keep my head down and get from the station to the ground. I wonder whether there is any mileage in writing to the Chief Constable now and suggesting that as Southampton's fans are to be subjected to this massive inconvenience and restrictions to their basic human rights, that he can confirm in advance, in the interests of even-handiness and fair play, that Portsmouth will be sujected to the same treatment.
shurlock Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 I've been to every derby game in recent times (first was at the Dell when Merrington was in charge) and I just don't think I can be bothered this time. What I particularly don't like is where the club state you have to pick up your coach pass (they will not post them out) before the day of the game. So what is the window for picking coach passes up? If you don't live locally it could be a right pain in the arse having to make a special trip (costing 60 pounds in diesel) or attending a home game that you hadn't planned to just before the Pompey game. It's like having to jump through hoops to jump through even more hoops. FFS - do it while a game's on. Blackpool for instance.
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Reading the rules and regulations for the ballot I read it that only season ticket holders can apply before 1st December, so that will then leave 18 days for the rest of us. So that is a window of 18 days (less the period of application) so maybe a 10 day window for non local fans to personally collect their travel passes as the official site says they won't be posted out. This means that just before christmas you either have to pay to travel down or attend the televisised early k/o fixture against Blackpool. It is f/cking ridiculous and worse than that it's probably a deliberate ploy to yet again penalise against fans that don't live locally.
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 FFS - do it while a game's on. Blackpool for instance. So pay to attend on the 10th (an early k/o that is on tv), and then the Pompey game, and all this just before Christmas. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST POST THE BLOODY TRAVEL PASSES OUT?
The Kraken Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 I wonder whether there is any mileage in writing to the Chief Constable now and suggesting that as Southampton's fans are to be subjected to this massive inconvenience and restrictions to their basic human rights, that he can confirm in advance, in the interests of even-handiness and fair play, that Portsmouth will be sujected to the same treatment. Pretty sure it's already been confirmed that they will have exactly the same procedure for our home fixture.
Dimond Geezer Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 I wonder whether there is any mileage in writing to the Chief Constable now and suggesting that as Southampton's fans are to be subjected to this massive inconvenience and restrictions to their basic human rights, that he can confirm in advance, in the interests of even-handiness and fair play, that Portsmouth will be sujected to the same treatment. Save your stamp, I'm sure it was reported on the tv that it would be for both games.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 So pay to attend on the 10th (an early k/o that is on tv), and then the Pompey game, and all this just before Christmas. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST POST THE BLOODY TRAVEL PASSES OUT? Agree with you here Dune. I don't live locally, was prepared to drive down to get on the bingo bus, just to drive home in the other direction again. However, the extra trip down to pick up the tickets is a real pain. Why can't they just post them like they do with other tickets or better still a print out version?
The Kraken Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 FFS - do it while a game's on. Blackpool for instance. Or just send the coach tickets out and not make it needlessly harder than it is right now. FFS. With all the restrictions in place and the game on TV I can't see us selling anywhere near our 3,200 allocation, think we could end up with around half that making the trip.
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Right, i've just rang the ticket office and have a few facts: 1. The allocation is 2500. 2. The police and the club got together at the start of the season and decided all the details. 3. They will not post out travel passes and the operator didn't know why and referred back to point (2). 4. The ticket office will not be open on the day of the pompey game so passes cannot be collected then. So for non season ticket holders that are not local you'll probably have a 10 day max window to travel to St Marys to pick up your travel pass.
surrey1saint Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Obvious why they wont post out travel tickets,could get into anyones hands
dune Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Obvious why they wont post out travel tickets,could get into anyones hands They could get into anyones hands once collected. It makes no sense not to post them out.
Huffton Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Well sod it, I'm going to apply. Probabaly haven't got a hope as only got Cardiff away so far but its worth a try.
Huffton Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Hmm, how come theres a booking fee for the ballot when they won't post tickets out?
70's Mike Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Well sod it, I'm going to apply. Probabaly haven't got a hope as only got Cardiff away so far but its worth a try. got tickets last time without even going to one away game, think it will be the same again,lots will not have the will to go, it will be a 6 hour trip from sms until you get back
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 It seems to me that the Police have got exactly what they wanted here: 'lads' who can't be arsed to go. Are we not losing sight of the fact this is Portsmouth away?!? As someone who was at notarf the year we were relegated, I'm chomping at the bit to see Saints (hopefully) get three points down there.
um pahars Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Or just send the coach tickets out and not make it needlessly harder than it is right now. FFS. With all the restrictions in place and the game on TV I can't see us selling anywhere near our 3,200 allocation, think we could end up with around half that making the trip. Does anyone reckon they will only go on sale to season ticket holders???? Nothing mentioned about when they could be released on general sale. I reckon one of the restrictions might be season ticket holders only.
JRM Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Does anyone reckon they will only go on sale to season ticket holders???? Nothing mentioned about when they could be released on general sale. I reckon one of the restrictions might be season ticket holders only. i wondered this as well, and also think it will be interesting with fans travelling using other peoples season ticket numbers, e.g, a relative who isn't going to go might be happy for their son / brother / mate etc to use their season ticket number
Nexstar Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 i wondered this as well, and also think it will be interesting with fans travelling using other peoples season ticket numbers, e.g, a relative who isn't going to go might be happy for their son / brother / mate etc to use their season ticket number This might possibly be another reason behind the collection of the coach tickets, checking ID maybe?
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Given the amount of wining we did after the Millwall game, and the fact they weren't kept in, Isn't this what people wanted???? People want fair, reasonable and consistent policing, not too much to ask I reckon?
Sour Mash Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 This might possibly be another reason behind the collection of the coach tickets, checking ID maybe? But we don't have to each collect our own individual coach ticket do we? I'm booking ina group of 4 I think and was planning on just one going down to pick them up. I'd assumed it was to stop people saying theirs hadn't turned up in the post? And our £3 booking fee not covering recorded delivery ha?
LGTL Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 Pompey website says 3200 tickets, so it's probably safe to assume that's how many we'll get? Seems odd to dramtically increase our allocation.
Nexstar Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 But we don't have to each collect our own individual coach ticket do we? I'm booking ina group of 4 I think and was planning on just one going down to pick them up. I'd assumed it was to stop people saying theirs hadn't turned up in the post? And our £3 booking fee not covering recorded delivery ha? I hope so, I'm in Kent!
benjii Posted 19 October, 2011 Posted 19 October, 2011 They are required to give us 2,000 so an allocation nearer 3k is strange. At least they have a chance of shifting some tickets that way.
Huffton Posted 20 October, 2011 Posted 20 October, 2011 They are required to give us 2,000 so an allocation nearer 3k is strange. At least they have a chance of shifting some tickets that way. Lets be honest, they need every penny they can get their grubby little mitts on, and I would imagine the police and the clubs have negotiated the extra allocation on the understanding that the police would only OK it if the bubble trip was on.
dune Posted 20 October, 2011 Posted 20 October, 2011 Pompey website says 3200 tickets, so it's probably safe to assume that's how many we'll get? Seems odd to dramtically increase our allocation. If you read my post i've told you it's 2500. That is for definite as I queried the 3200 figure with an SFC ticket office supervisor.
Saints foreva Posted 20 October, 2011 Posted 20 October, 2011 If you read my post i've told you it's 2500. That is for definite as I queried the 3200 figure with an SFC ticket office supervisor. I've just got an email from the ticket office regarding the allocation. They say they do not know what we will be allocated yet.
100%Red&White Posted 20 October, 2011 Posted 20 October, 2011 If you read my post i've told you it's 2500. That is for definite as I queried the 3200 figure with an SFC ticket office supervisor. I've just got an email from the ticket office regarding the allocation. They say they do not know what we will be allocated yet. As it's supposedly quoted on the skate OS that they've given us 3200 I'd guess that must be correct but what it could actually mean is they've given us the entire end but we can only sell 'x' amount of seats as the others must be used for segregation?
dune Posted 20 October, 2011 Posted 20 October, 2011 I've just got an email from the ticket office regarding the allocation. They say they do not know what we will be allocated yet. Yours was a standard reply from a spotty oik employed through an agency to lick stamps, mine was from the mouth of a an official full time sfc supervisor.
saint_coxy Posted 21 October, 2011 Posted 21 October, 2011 If we have the whole of the end then there wouldn't be any need for segregation. I would imagine we will get the full 3,200 tickets based on the fact we are beign made to travel by coach
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now