saintsdan Posted 13 October, 2011 Share Posted 13 October, 2011 Thats pretty much how i see, no wat can they get than many police to cover the whole journey to the stadium, what a massive waste of money it would be if they did. I'm sure it would be cheaper to get a load of coppers to accompany the train down then walk everyone in as is usually the case. Can't see this working tbh, and would be sh!te if it was the plan. Fair enough some people would rather stay within the safety of the bus, but i'd imagine the majority would want to be on the train soaking up the atmosphere and being able to drink. Don't see it as a problem myself. Fratton Park is pretty to reach down the Eastern Road and they'll have a police escort in and out. The bigger problem to me is where you park up and unload 50 coaches near the Milton End of the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 October, 2011 Share Posted 13 October, 2011 I struggle to see how it will deter serious violence in P'mouth - The very long 50-coach convoy will be very hard to police along it's entire length and a sitting target for Pompey's lowlife and thugs as it crawls through slum suburbs and into the town - it could all end up looking like the road to Basra! Coaches bricked and Saints pouring out of the coaches to retaliate. Utter mayhem. Unless they shut the Eastern Road and turn the traffic lights out at the end of it, all coaches will be targets as they were in the relegation season especially by the Good Companions pub,as the Eastern Road is the main road i cannot see it happenning the only plus is that side of the ground is away from the station and Fratton road which is the route from the centre. Still i will take by 2 lads to mind the old chap, i did my stint of active service at Fratton during the 70's and 80's, not sure if Milkins testamonial was late 60's , now that was a night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 October, 2011 Share Posted 13 October, 2011 Don't see it as a problem myself. Fratton Park is pretty to reach down the Eastern Road and they'll have a police escort in and out. The bigger problem to me is where you park up and unload 50 coaches near the Milton End of the ground? they shut the industrial estate of before, double parked the coaches and marched us down the lane behind the Milton goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 13 October, 2011 Share Posted 13 October, 2011 Not good from a personal point of view as I live in Gosport, that would be a real nuisance!! Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 October, 2011 Share Posted 13 October, 2011 I struggle to see how it will deter serious violence in P'mouth - The very long 50-coach convoy will be very hard to police along it's entire length and a sitting target for Pompey's lowlife and thugs as it crawls through slum suburbs and into the town - it could all end up looking like the road to Basra! Coaches bricked and Saints pouring out of the coaches to retaliate. Utter mayhem. you been watching too much Black Hawk Down, its Pompey not Somalia we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 you been watching too much Black Hawk Down, its Pompey not Somalia we're talking about. Are you sure?? I can see a similarity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 Right, it's 11.30am, the soaks will be well on their way down my local. I'm off down there on my day off to gonna butter them up with a whiskey and water each, a few quids worth of credit for the juke box (maximum 5 songs, can only put up with the Pogues for so long) and a game of pool. I wonder if they've ever tried aftershock or jeager bombs? Few of those for lunch will get them on side for my travel scam. In a way Im actually quite gutted Ill miss the faces of the travel club types on bard whichever coach is unfortunate enough to accomodate the barely illiterate soaks I'm sending as my "ticket mules" whist I wreck havok on the streets of P*mpey, for a start they stink, know f*** all bout football, well 1 fella on the run from a Maybush loan shark still thinks Tommy Widderington and Neil Maddison play for us as he refuses to believe the last 16 years of his life slipping away from him actually happened - whoever is on the coach with a bearded 1 eared (got the other bit off by a dog in a "van fight" during the summer of world cup 2002) loon wearing a 90's skiing jacket and crusty jeans singing "score a goal, Neil Shipperley" sat next to "Mad Annie" in her leather trousers, waistcoat and bald patches - are lucky enough to be in their company! Up the Saints - here, there, everyf***ingwhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 Right, it's 11.30am, the soaks will be well on their way down my local. I'm off down there on my day off to gonna butter them up with a whiskey and water each, a few quids worth of credit for the juke box (maximum 5 songs, can only put up with the Pogues for so long) and a game of pool. I wonder if they've ever tried aftershock or jeager bombs? Few of those for lunch will get them on side for my travel scam. In a way Im actually quite gutted Ill miss the faces of the travel club types on bard whichever coach is unfortunate enough to accomodate the barely illiterate soaks I'm sending as my "ticket mules" whist I wreck havok on the streets of P*mpey, for a start they stink, know f*** all bout football, well 1 fella on the run from a Maybush loan shark still thinks Tommy Widderington and Neil Maddison play for us as he refuses to believe the last 16 years of his life slipping away from him actually happened - whoever is on the coach with a bearded 1 eared (got the other bit off by a dog in a "van fight" during the summer of world cup 2002) loon wearing a 90's skiing jacket and crusty jeans singing "score a goal, Neil Shipperley" sat next to "Mad Annie" in her leather trousers, waistcoat and bald patches - are lucky enough to be in their company! Up the Saints - here, there, everyf***ingwhere! Ello mate, I can't reply to your message/write on your visitors page (guess because I'm not full member) But anyway it's Jamie if you know me (of the olde Hedge End...well used to be). Who's this...Matt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 you been watching too much Black Hawk Down, its Pompey not Somalia we're talking about. Basra is in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 they shut the industrial estate of before' date=' double parked the coaches and marched us down the lane behind the Milton goal[/quote'] Won't need to go down the lane , away fans come in from the other side of that end now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 I'm sitting in the home end.... (gulp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 How on earth could you do that mate? I'd rather watch it on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 Got a Pompey supporting mate who got 2 tickets... deep, deep over enemy lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 Got a Pompey supporting mate who got 2 tickets... deep, deep over enemy lines Braver man than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 I just love all this months before anything kicks off - literally! Why are people so obsessed with going to that sh*thole? I've been there and run the gauntlet since the mid seventies - been there, seen it, done it...honestly not interest in going to their manor ever again - not even when Saints are there! Now at SMS it's a different matter... Still it's on terrestrial TV what more could you want? I bet it's a sell out and all the old morons come out to play...the blue few suddenly become the blue not so few...bet there's plenty of Saints in the home end(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 Basra is in Iraq.no ****. But Black Hawk Down is about Somalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 October, 2011 Share Posted 14 October, 2011 Won't need to go down the lane , away fans come in from the other side of that end now Would not know only tend to visit when saints are playing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 15 October, 2011 Share Posted 15 October, 2011 Just got official confirmation in the post that all travel will be via the official travel club with pick up points in Winchester, Bursledon and the stadium. Tickets will be issued on the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 October, 2011 Share Posted 15 October, 2011 You just know the club will over price the travel coach price. £25 is my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 15 October, 2011 Share Posted 15 October, 2011 I would expect it to be free. They should not expect people to pay for something they're forced into (travelwise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 15 October, 2011 Share Posted 15 October, 2011 I would expect it to be free. They should not expect people to pay for something they're forced into (travelwise). Portsmouth get all the money from ticket sales, so why should Saints care if fans are deterred by high coach prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 15 October, 2011 Share Posted 15 October, 2011 Just got official confirmation in the post that all travel will be via the official travel club with pick up points in Winchester, Bursledon and the stadium. Tickets will be issued on the coach. Did you write to the club asking about it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 16 October, 2011 Share Posted 16 October, 2011 if that is the rule then so be it, of course it will be applied when they visit us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 16 October, 2011 Share Posted 16 October, 2011 Just got official confirmation in the post that all travel will be via the official travel club with pick up points in Winchester, Bursledon and the stadium. Tickets will be issued on the coach. Did it say how many wheelchair spaces were available on the coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Letters were sent out to out to "Away Season ticket holders" stating they would automatically get one and they wouldnt need to apply for the ballott and it then went on to explain about the coaches. I understand all the reasons why, but don't think this is necessary and will take away from the day itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN2 Saint Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Letters were sent out to out to "Away Season ticket holders" stating they would automatically get one and they wouldnt need to apply for the ballott and it then went on to explain about the coaches. I understand all the reasons why, but don't think this is necessary and will take away from the day itself. The train journey down has been the best part of the last two trips to Fratton, as people have already mentioned the route goes past a few of their main pubs aswell just hope I don't have a window seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Yes! Great news, seems my planning has paid off. Whilst all you losers will be on the coaches sat next to a group of alcoholic, one eyed, sweaty loons carrying my tickets for me and drinking buckvast and vodka neat sat in their own p*** soaked clothes they'd been wearing for a week solid whilst I wander around P*mpey doing what I want.... "We are Southampton, we get the train where we want" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Away season ticket holders?? Do they even exist, it certainly wasn't advertised otherwise i'd be one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Away season ticket holders?? Do they even exist, it certainly wasn't advertised otherwise i'd be one! It basically means you get sent tickets to every away game and they take the money from your account. Saves hassle each week, but would be a pain if you couldn't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 As a Saints fan living in Brighton, will I have do drive from Brighton, all the way past Chichester, then back past Brighton again, then to Southampton, then back to Nottarf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourno Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Away season ticket holders?? Do they even exist, it certainly wasn't advertised otherwise i'd be one! me too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Yes! Great news, seems my planning has paid off. Whilst all you losers will be on the coaches sat next to a group of alcoholic, one eyed, sweaty loons carrying my tickets for me and drinking buckvast and vodka neat sat in their own p*** soaked clothes they'd been wearing for a week solid whilst I wander around P*mpey doing what I want.... "We are Southampton, we get the train where we want" Surely this would only work if somebody goes on the coach in your place then doesn't go to the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Portsmouth get all the money from ticket sales, so why should Saints care if fans are deterred by high coach prices? not strictly true, SFC receives commission for every away ticket it sells, not to mention the ticket tax on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 (edited) Surely this would only work if somebody goes on the coach in your place then doesn't go to the game? Yep, that's the plan. I got a heads up a while ago this was going to happen so for the past 2/3 weeks I've been plying 4 local old soaks (2 blokes, 2 exceptionally scabby old women - well I say old but one is early 30's but she looks about 90 due to a serious meth habit) from my local - the type that is in there all day desperate for a free pint of mild or whiskey so thought I'd introduce them to jagerbombs and they're putty in my hands! I still need to arrange a rondevouz point outside the ground but that won't be a problem. These people are the dregs of society so I genuinely believe Im doing them a favour by giving them a free coach trip/ day out/ holiday. Only concern is if the OB are on each coach, if so I GUARANTEE they will get arrested for any of a variety of offences so will certainly be a gamble - but one im willing to take for the sake of freedom of movement. Good luck to whoever is next to them on the coaches as they are complete wronguns... Edited 17 October, 2011 by JackanorySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Yep, that's the plan. I got a heads up a while ago this was going to happen so for the past 2/3 weeks I've been plying 4 local old soaks (2 blokes, 2 exceptionally scabby old women - well I say old but one is early 30's but she looks about 90 due to a serious meth habit) from my local - the type that is in there all day desperate for a free pint of mild or whiskey so thought I'd introduce them to jagerbombs and they're putty in my hands! I still need to arrange a rondevouz point outside the ground but that won't be a problem. These people are the dregs of society so I genuinely believe Im doing them a favour by giving them a free coach trip/ day out/ holiday. Only concern is if the OB are on each coach, if so I GUARANTEE they will get arrested for any of a variety of offences so will certainly be a gamble - but one im willing to take for the sake of freedom of movement. Good luck to whoever is next to them on the coaches as they are complete wronguns... If there is not a fence separating us from the skates there will be a police line. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't let one coach in at a time, then straight in the ground for that lot and move on to the next coach. The Skates won't be able to get near us and therefore neither will you. You got a plan B? Maybe a nice pub in Fratton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 If there is not a fence separating us from the skates there will be a police line. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't let one coach in at a time, then straight in the ground for that lot and move on to the next coach. The Skates won't be able to get near us and therefore neither will you. You got a plan B? Maybe a nice pub in Fratton. I went in 03/04 (I think) without a ticket at all and managed to bundle my way in 15 minutes after ko and into a hail storm nd a defeat, was it worth it? Yes, absolutely as I hate P*mpey and I won't be missing a game there. This is my plan B. I'll probably arrange for the meth head (known as skelator in the pub) to pretend to be my mum/ auntie (despite being my age) and arrange for the ob to let us meet for her "medication" whereby she can hand me the tickets. Her and the other 4 will have no trouble at all in being refused entry/ ejection of the area due to their general demenaur and ponchant for attacking authority figures and spitting at people. Havn't got as far as worrying about what they will do during the game, only 1 likes football but is psycotic and still thinks its 1994 and Maddison and Tommy Widderington play for us (he suffered some form of traumatic experience then and refuses to believe time has moved on) and we should sign Gazza and get Liniker back from Japan! Me and my mates will give them an extra £10 each and let them fend for themselves. Will be amusing to see if they get back to the pub before we do after the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Jackanory it's a rubbish plan, but good luck. The coaches will park and the passengers will be herded to the turnstiles and you'll have as much chance of getting to them as any Pompey fan will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Jackanory it's a rubbish plan, but good luck. The coaches will park and the passengers will be herded to the turnstiles and you'll have as much chance of getting to them as any Pompey fan will. What if we were dressed up as St John's ambulence men and one of them OD'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 What if we were dressed up as St John's ambulence men and one of them OD'd? Ahhhh, a cunning plan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Ahhhh, a cunning plan... The problem with this country today is people have no innitiative and want things done for them on a plate. Not me pal.... I re-write the rulebook just for laughs. No surrender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednrednredandwhite Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Still i will take by 2 lads to mind the old chap, i did my stint of active service at Fratton during the 70's and 80's, not sure if Milkins testamonial was late 60's , now that was a night Milkins testimonial was '72 mate, still have nightmares about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Milkins testimonial was '72 mate, still have nightmares about it as they hurled themselves in on top of us from the Fratton end, across the pitch and into where we were under Main Stand. Ended up going home via the Gosport Ferry and Bus to Town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 This coach arrangement will be a load of ****, in what other walk of life would they sell you a ticket and then demand you travel how they tell you to. We aren't 12 years old on a school trip, it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Bloody annoyed about this. Turns a short stroll up the road to Fratton Park for me into a pointless trek up and down the motorway. Think I'll probably just end up watching on TV now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 While I've seen this sort of thing happen on an ever-increasing scale for derby games in the last few years, has anyone actually challenged its legality? Not only on the theory of freedom of movement, but also on an anti-competition/price-fixing angle as well. What's to stop the club charging everyone £50 for the coach, safe in the knowledge that if people want to go to the game, they'll have to pay it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 This coach arrangement will be a load of ****, in what other walk of life would they sell you a ticket and then demand you travel how they tell you to. We aren't 12 years old on a school trip, it's ridiculous. Package holidays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 This is the model used for the old firms games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vershinin Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 Isn't this in direct contrast to the old bill saying how the ****s had to be let out of St Marys at the same time as us last year otherwise it was infringing their human rights? Yet we are gona be crammed in buses like ****ing toddlers or we can 't go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 There isn't an away season ticket holder scheme this season, is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 October, 2011 Share Posted 17 October, 2011 While I've seen this sort of thing happen on an ever-increasing scale for derby games in the last few years, has anyone actually challenged its legality? Not only on the theory of freedom of movement, but also on an anti-competition/price-fixing angle as well. What's to stop the club charging everyone £50 for the coach, safe in the knowledge that if people want to go to the game, they'll have to pay it? I totally agree with you. It appears that criminals in the nick have more notice taken of their human rights than football fans. What it needs is somebody to mount a legal challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now