Minty Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2458726,00.html (watch the Saints Player interview for more - his mannerisms and demeanour emphasise what he says) We've had a few of these interviews this season, but it just underlines what is happening at our club and how positive things are, so I make no apologies for reposting a large chuck of it: "We've got an amazing squad after making ten changes, and you can see from the way that we play football, sometimes it's brilliant, it reminds me of playing in European football over the ground and between the lines. It's down to the coach and how he wants to play, we train a lot on that and you can see that it's coming out. "I think we have got a similar way of playing as Copenhagen last year, and they went into the final 16 of the Champions League. I don't think there's a big gap between us and Copenhagen. "It's amazing the bunch of guys that we have and the players all get a long, after the game we go for a meal together, we have a laugh, there's so much banter before and after training so something is growing here, you can feel that and it's great to be a part of it all. "It's great to come into a happy place as it just gives you that little bit of extra confidence you need. I've been welcomed really well. All of the players came to me and talked to me, asked questions that kind of stuff, and were interested in the new guy which makes you feel at home and I need that to be in the middle of the group. I enjoy it very much." He also talks about seeking improvement - just like Lallana did after the 4-1 Brum win - which highlights this permanent underlying ethos of striving to do/be better, no matter what the last result. This is exactly what is needed - complacency is the main enemy of a successful side, and to hear players and manager talk about this all the time is music to my ears. Hooiveld has been here barely a month but the terms in which he talks are a key reason for why we find ourselves where we are, and show how the manager's influence on a team is the singularly most important thing. I know I'm an optimistic person but I have genuinely never felt as optimistic as I do now under Nigel's leadership.
Minty Posted 22 September, 2011 Author Posted 22 September, 2011 Forgot to say, he interviews well also, well spoken, good English, and seems to have a smile on his face. Hopefully he continues to develop with us and maybe there's a permanent deal in the offing?
saintmatt Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 It terms of optimism, there hasn't been a better time to be a Saint in my lifetime (I'm 24). Even in 2002/03 there was an underlying feeling that it was a special season and one that would not be repeated too frequently. Now, I believe we have the potential to go beyond the achievements of that season, even if it is early days
dubai_phil Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 Forgot to say, he interviews well also, well spoken, good English, and seems to have a smile on his face. Hopefully he continues to develop with us and maybe there's a permanent deal in the offing? Most footballers these days are trained in Media Management and so are taught exactly how to toe the "Corporate Line". But these comments, while toeing the line also contain more emotive/personal comments than you would usually expect to hear. Again, to me it shows yet again that we aren't building a squad by playing FM, but by actually looking at the mentality & mindset of players - he feels he has fitted in to "something" special. IMHO it is that something which will carry us a long way and that we should no longer think in terms of HCDAJFU but more DHHMTFI - does he have (the) mindest to fit in. Long may we continue to have a egotistical c()ck free football team to support.
niceandfriendly Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 Thought exactly the same when watching his interview. Adkins has performed miracles for this club. Happy times, great success!
1976_Child Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 Agree with all that. He comes over well. Still think his very first interview was the best. "So what do you know about Southampton?" "Well, it is by the sea and has many palm trees.." ;)
Big_Bald_Si Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I reckon Jos has the potential to become a cult hero, similar to our Claus. I read that whole interview with a Dutch voice in my head, it was hilarious!
Wurzel Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 "It's amazing the bunch of guys that we have and the players all get a long, after the game we go for a meal together, we have a laugh, there's so much banter before and after training so something is growing here, you can feel that and it's great to be a part of it all. I reckon that you need look no further than that sentence to work out why certain potential transfer targets ended up not being signed.
hutch Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 He also talks about seeking improvement - just like Lallana did after the 4-1 Brum win - which highlights this permanent underlying ethos of striving to do/be better, no matter what the last result. This is exactly what is needed - complacency is the main enemy of a successful side, and to hear players and manager talk about this all the time is music to my ears. They might all be saying it, but we're still conceding a lot of goals in the first 10 minutes after half time. But I'm sure it hasn't escaped Nigel's attention
Minty Posted 22 September, 2011 Author Posted 22 September, 2011 I did chuckle at some of the Twitter posts going round last night too. Richard Chaplow is on there too now and he and Ryan Dickson were giving Jos a bit of banter: joshooiveld20: Great win and what a squat we have, 10 changes and such a performance. Great to be on the score sheet again too! Very happy saint today. Ryandickson23: Congratulations to cid on his first goal for club!#widestheadinfootball! yfrog.com/gzsn8uhj Rchap04: @joshooiveld20 which corner of your heed did it come off? #squareheed joshooiveld20: @Ryandickson23 you know what they say about haters.. They hate.. Wide heads are amazing!
Liquidshokk Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I've been studying him a bit since hid arrival and as I mentioned in another thread he seems to be extremely passionate about the game as shown when was chewing the ear off the ref and Crosby throughout the brum game. Yesterday he had an outburst when he was forced to waste possession due to forte not making a run at the right time. He also lapped up the applause and repeatedly waved at everyone as he left the field when subbed. Think he comes across very well and I for one would happily see him alongside fonte each game.
1976_Child Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 They might all be saying it, but we're still conceding a lot of goals in the first 10 minutes after half time. But I'm sure it hasn't escaped Nigel's attention This has always been my concern. The problem is that more often than not we are comprehensively outplaying teams in the first half which means they (the opposition) get a stern talking-to over the half-time oranges and they come out all guns blazing, really gee'd up. Takes us by surprise. Almost as if the first 15 after half time we should be much more conservative.
Minty Posted 22 September, 2011 Author Posted 22 September, 2011 I think the point is that at least it is recognised that there are things to work on, even when winning. I've seen plenty of post-match comments where managers and players talk about the win and what they did well, but I think the single most important thing to acknowledge and look at is the things that still need work, and we're doing that. With some of the recent changes at the back and a few newish faces, it will take a bit of time for them to learn and improve but I have no doubt they are working on it.
Giordano Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 Im not sure if his team nickname of "Cid" from Ice Age film (animated film creature with a wide head - supposedly as wide as Hooiveld's) is going to catch on but i agree with Minty about the implications of what he has said in interview (as well as the public banter on twitter) - they are an excellent sign. Very interesting the comparison with Copenhagen but it neatly sidesteps the more interesting to me comparison with Celtic....i'd say that he is too savvy to dis Celtic by comparing us to them - and im certain tons of his twitter followers are Celtic fans so we won't ever know until he signs permanently. He will surely have guaranteed a full time contract by Sunday December 18th given his good start but I have a feeling that after that particular game he will become something of a cult hero figure due to his performance on the pitch against the opposition, local rivals I think, name eludes me...already got a mental image of him putting Kitson into the seats or Benjani crying after a particularly hard tackle meaning he is substituted, perhaps Kanu refusing to come on as a substitute forward out of fear and the wild look in Hooiveld's eyes. If he's been involved in an old firm game he will know what is expected at that match fer sure and i'm 100% confident he would deliver what we want to see from our big CB in THAT game if given the chance.....
CanadaSaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I reckon that you need look no further than that sentence to work out why certain potential transfer targets ended up not being signed. Agree 100%, Wurzel. And I strongly suspect that at least one key target 'failed' at the 'interview' stage. This is over and above the one who became persona non grata even when we arguably needed a player of exactly his type. The ethos and high principles that Adkins brings (and Cortese promotes, I'm sure) go far beyond what we see on the pitch.
egreog Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I sense he was on the fringes at Celtic and I would imagine NA is far easier to get along with than Lennon as a manager . The "togetherness" that has developed at SMS means everyone is welcomed on the bus, and many opposition comments are quoting the spirit that comes across when on the field of play. Cortese and NA seem to be signing the players with the correct attitude and weeding out, moving on those of a negative influence. Its good to see and refreshing!
ant Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 Read that with a big grin on my face. There's every sign that the club's building something very special. Note the liberal use of 'we' and 'us' in everything Jos says. He could just as easily have stated "Southampton have got a similar way of playing as Copenhagen last year". Seems to have bedded in quickly.
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 A truly lovely lad who is really up for it. Could be a great signing in January if those celtic bastards don't try to screw us but knowing our cousins from North of the Border they'll do their best to soak us dry, the bastards!
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I nfor one am enjoying life as a Saints fan with NA at the helm. I think the last time I enjoyed the footie as much as this was way back in the 80's!
Ohio Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 This interview struck me too. He gives away quite a lot about the spirit of the team, and how they all gel. I was especially pleased about how upfront he was about his situation and feelings about his performances at Celtic. A bit of an "I told you so" But in the KD thread I mentioned that Kelv's character may be an important factor in the way the team is playing. Glad to have it confirmed by Jos!
Colinjb Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 A truly lovely lad who is really up for it. Could be a great signing in January if those celtic bastards don't try to screw us but knowing our cousins from North of the Border they'll do their best to soak us dry, the bastards! I would hope that any fee would have been pre-agreed as a condition of the loan.... just like we had arranged with Chaplow.
Brussels Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 To be honest I had no idea he played in the CL with Copenhagen. Maybe we have found a gem. Anyone can find themselves out of favour at one club to perform at another. My feeling is that if he's got it in him, NA will get it out.
Ohio Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 My feeling is that if he's got it in him, NA will get it out. Oo'er missus!
bender Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I nfor one am enjoying life as a Saints fan with NA at the helm. I think the last time I enjoyed the footie as much as this was way back in the 80's! Indeed, similar feeling to 2003.
View From The Top Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I nfor one am enjoying life as a Saints fan with NA at the helm. I think the last time I enjoyed the footie as much as this was way back in the 80's! I agree totally. I haven't felt this way about Saints, literally, for decades.
1976_Child Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 I agree totally. I haven't felt this way about Saints, literally, for decades. Agree. (I just hope the whingers and moaners don't resurface when the lads go through a tough patch, as will be inevitable in this league)
lotois-saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Posted 22 September, 2011 It terms of optimism, there hasn't been a better time to be a Saint in my lifetime (I'm 24). Even in 2002/03 there was an underlying feeling that it was a special season and one that would not be repeated too frequently. Now, I believe we have the potential to go beyond the achievements of that season, even if it is early days Sorry pressed the wrong button, I forgot to refer to this quotation so once again, I agree and I am 69, so ignore my previous post
Minty Posted 23 September, 2011 Author Posted 23 September, 2011 I must admit I always assumed that older fans would perhaps remember SOME point in the past when they felt as positive as now, but it's interesting to know a 69 year old thinks the same!!
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Not of the 69 variety but in the 60's when Terry Paine and Co took us for the first time into Division 1 most of us spent weeks wetting ourselves with sheer delight and that was a really warm feeling!
up and away Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2458726,00.html (watch the Saints Player interview for more - his mannerisms and demeanour emphasise what he says) We've had a few of these interviews this season, but it just underlines what is happening at our club and how positive things are, so I make no apologies for reposting a large chuck of it: He also talks about seeking improvement - just like Lallana did after the 4-1 Brum win - which highlights this permanent underlying ethos of striving to do/be better, no matter what the last result. This is exactly what is needed - complacency is the main enemy of a successful side, and to hear players and manager talk about this all the time is music to my ears. Hooiveld has been here barely a month but the terms in which he talks are a key reason for why we find ourselves where we are, and show how the manager's influence on a team is the singularly most important thing. I know I'm an optimistic person but I have genuinely never felt as optimistic as I do now under Nigel's leadership. This has been the very noticeable and the manner Adkins wrings every advantage of the extensive back up he has available is really an achievement. As much as Adkins deserves the praise for achieving what he has with the tools at his disposal, the provision of those tools and the environment has a lot to do with Cortese. The simple step of abolishing any trace of politics within the club is the cornerstone to what we see today. No cliques or isolated groups, but a general foundation for taking the club forward. What I am amazed with is that Cortese has managed to latch onto this so quick and get everyone to work this to a maximum. How does a banker suddenly manage to understand, let alone implement such a regime in such a short space of time? If you go back to some of the comments he made after Pardews sacking it was all referenced then. So the intent for the direction was there, it just surprises me that given his previous history that he was able to apply and implement this to such a degree.
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 I am a bit disillusioned with the whole thing and how the club has been run. What happens on the pitch is only a small part of what makes a successful football club. THe car parking charges are an absolute scandal as is the ticket tax. I am also deeply concearned by the lack of revenue coming in from corporate sales, those areas are almost empty which means the relationship with local businsses is at an all time low. This coupled with the long queues for food and drink at half time, the poor quality of the PA system and the quite frankly rubbish pre match and half time entertainment are ruining my matchday experience.
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 This has been the very noticeable and the manner Adkins wrings every advantage of the extensive back up he has available is really an achievement. As much as Adkins deserves the praise for achieving what he has with the tools at his disposal, the provision of those tools and the environment has a lot to do with Cortese. The simple step of abolishing any trace of politics within the club is the cornerstone to what we see today. No cliques or isolated groups, but a general foundation for taking the club forward. What I am amazed with is that Cortese has managed to latch onto this so quick and get everyone to work this to a maximum. How does a banker suddenly manage to understand, let alone implement such a regime in such a short space of time? If you go back to some of the comments he made after Pardews sacking it was all referenced then. So the intent for the direction was there, it just surprises me that given his previous history that he was able to apply and implement this to such a degree. What do you think les Reid is on the payroll for?
Minty Posted 23 September, 2011 Author Posted 23 September, 2011 Les Reed was undoubtedly a key advisor in this whole thing - which in itself I find interesting because his previous employer, England, do not appear to follow similar ethos. As for your points about everything else Turkish, that's all a matter of opinion and wasn't something I was intent on focusing on on this thread. I do agree that some things haven't been handled as I would want them to be, but I do acknowledge that the intentions behind it all are to make the club more sustainable and to aid it's progress.
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Les Reed was undoubtedly a key advisor in this whole thing - which in itself I find interesting because his previous employer, England, do not appear to follow similar ethos. As for your points about everything else Turkish, that's all a matter of opinion and wasn't something I was intent on focusing on on this thread. I do agree that some things haven't been handled as I would want them to be, but I do acknowledge that the intentions behind it all are to make the club more sustainable and to aid it's progress. I can assure you mindy (lol) there is nothing that angers me more than after enjoying 45 minutes of first class soccer having to queue for 10 minutes to eat and drink and have to strain to hear the half time scores from the rubbish PA system.
Wes Tender Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 I am a bit disillusioned with the whole thing and how the club has been run. What happens on the pitch is only a small part of what makes a successful football club. THe car parking charges are an absolute scandal as is the ticket tax. I am also deeply concearned by the lack of revenue coming in from corporate sales, those areas are almost empty which means the relationship with local businsses is at an all time low. This coupled with the long queues for food and drink at half time, the poor quality of the PA system and the quite frankly rubbish pre match and half time entertainment are ruining my matchday experience. Stay away and do somethig else with your Saturdays then. I doubt you'd be missed, either at the match, or on here.
washsaint Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 err......has evryone missed the irony in Turkish's post.....some of you have bitten hard!
Patrick Bateman Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Great thread and Turkish, you're a helmet
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Stay away and do somethig else with your Saturdays then. I doubt you'd be missed, either at the match, or on here. That isn't very nice Mr Charisma.
Wes Tender Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 err......has evryone missed the irony in Turkish's post.....some of you have bitten hard! I realised that it was wind-up. Did you miss the irony in my post?
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Great thread and Turkish, you're a helmet N/T
Minty Posted 23 September, 2011 Author Posted 23 September, 2011 I did wonder but only after I'd replied... although that said, there are still people who probably would allow a queue or a poor PA announcement to ruin their day.
Patrick Bateman Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 I did wonder but only after I'd replied... although that said, there are still people who probably would allow a queue or a poor PA announcement to ruin their day. Oh there are ... where is Stu now?
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Oh there are ... where is Stu now? On the UI, banging the same drum.
lotois-saint Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Not of the 69 variety but in the 60's when Terry Paine and Co took us for the first time into Division 1 most of us spent weeks wetting ourselves with sheer delight and that was a really warm feeling! Agreed, I remember Paine, Sydenham Reeves and Ron Davies even Eric Day but that's going back a bit too far. However, there is something about the present set-up which makes me so optimistic about Saints' future, because it seems to me that an holistic approach to the development of the club has been adopted and not just the reliance on a few outstanding individuals for survival. That doesn't mean that there aren't outstanding invidual players at the club (Adam Lallana for example) but the club is no longer dependent on them (eg MLT) to survive. Of course it all depends on whether NC, NA and the Liebherr family are prepared to stick around to see it through, but at the moment I think they probably are (that's just an opinion, I've no evidence).
the saint in winchester Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Forgot to say, he interviews well also, well spoken, good English, and seems to have a smile on his face. Hopefully he continues to develop with us and maybe there's a permanent deal in the offing? ABSOLUTELY. I've made my mind up already. OK, don't need to close the deal just yet, but (in x-factor voice) I'm going to say .... yes!!!
up and away Posted 23 September, 2011 Posted 23 September, 2011 Originally Posted by up and away This has been the very noticeable and the manner Adkins wrings every advantage of the extensive back up he has available is really an achievement. As much as Adkins deserves the praise for achieving what he has with the tools at his disposal, the provision of those tools and the environment has a lot to do with Cortese. The simple step of abolishing any trace of politics within the club is the cornerstone to what we see today. No cliques or isolated groups, but a general foundation for taking the club forward. What I am amazed with is that Cortese has managed to latch onto this so quick and get everyone to work this to a maximum. How does a banker suddenly manage to understand, let alone implement such a regime in such a short space of time? If you go back to some of the comments he made after Pardews sacking it was all referenced then. So the intent for the direction was there, it just surprises me that given his previous history that he was able to apply and implement this to such a degree. What do you think les Reid is on the payroll for? Les Reid is a very important cog. But I am sure you will have noticed that Les Reid has been on the payroll of many different employers. What I have not noticed is these kind of performances. Cortese references this at the time of Pardews sacking, so he had a firm idea of how he was wanting things to work.
jam Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 Nice and timely example of quotes being blown out of all proportion... From the BBC: Southampton defender Jos Hooiveld says the Championship side are good enough for the Champions League. Linking to this article in the Mirror: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Southampton-are-good-enough-for-the-Champions-League-claims-defender-Jos-Hooiveld-article803372.html
Crab Lungs Posted 24 September, 2011 Posted 24 September, 2011 What you didn't see was the evil midget Cortese behind him, with a beretta to his back, forcing him to say that.
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