holepuncture Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 A Polish student in Cardiff has released his collection of images he call 'Cardiff After Dark' which basically portrays the UK as an alcoholic state, where its people drink to excess with no regard for there dignity, safety or health. This happens every weekend in every town and city in the country, and makes the London riots look like another day in the office for the police that have to clean up the mess. Are we morally corrupt? emotionally broken? desensitised to reality? And for those a little older, are you comfortable in the knowledge that this is the future, and do you trust the drinking classes to support your pensions and make a positive contribution to society? http://cargocollective.com/maciejdakowicz#1423665/Cardiff-After-Dark http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040260/Binge-drinking-Shaming-images-turned-Britain-laughing-stock.html My Favourite picture is this clown: Bang Tidy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 New Labour's fault. Bring back the cane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Crime came down dramatically under New Labour. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Generous alcohol consumption must come as a shock after living in the strict teetotal country of Poland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 The pictures on the guy's website are excellent. Don't really think you can take this as evidence of us all being morally corrupt, but the question of why we Brits ( and our mates the Irish ) love going out on the lash so much is an interesting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Because its a good idea at the time. Shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Twisted my arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Really interesting stuff. I hate to say it, but as somebody who works on the continent a lot of the time, brits 'drinking culture' and behaviour is pretty embarrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Really interesting stuff. I hate to say it, but as somebody who works on the continent a lot of the time, brits 'drinking culture' and behaviour is pretty embarrasing. I like a drink as much as the next man, but whoever thought that relaxing the licencing laws would lead to continental drinking habits was completely and utterly barmy. There are laws in place to deal with this. We need a zero tolerence appraoch to anti social crimes committed when drunk, and zero tolerance towards establishments who serve people who are clearly drunk. When I was younger the landlord used to tell me to bugger off home if I was too ****ed, and if I didn't get the hint the older locals would do the job for him. Personally I think drink is a wonderful thing, and a pub can be a great place.I was once talking to a Frenchman who said to me "in France we go out and sometimes we drink too much, in England you go out with the sole intention that you are going to drink too much". There also seems to be a badge of honour connected to getting ****ed. I used to try and walk home as sober as possible in case anyone my family knew saw me staggering around (I failed misreabley many times, but I tried). Nowadays there seems to be no shame about being sick in public or so ****ed you cant stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Really interesting stuff. I hate to say it, but as somebody who works on the continent a lot of the time, brits 'drinking culture' and behaviour is pretty embarrasing. It is. People seem to go out on the continent, drink, but not be massively drunk. I actually think that a lot of it is down to the fact that as a nation, we are unnaturally reserved, probably unhealthily so. You don't see too many Frenchmen or Spaniards having difficulty expressing their feelings in sobriety. That's why the idea of 24 hour drinking ushering in a more continental pattern of drinking was hogwash. We're emotionally repressed b*st*rds, whatever time you close the pubs. Well, all that politeness comes at a price. When you've had to smile sweetly when all you've wanted to do is call someone a giant nobend, it's little wonder that people trade the stiff upper lip in for a half-eaten kebab chucked at a shop window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Personally I think drink is a wonderful thing, and a pub can be a great place.I was once talking to a Frenchman who said to me "in France we go out and sometimes we drink too much, in England you go out with the sole intention that you are going to drink too much". There also seems to be a badge of honour connected to getting ****ed. I used to try and walk home as sober as possible in case anyone my family knew saw me staggering around (I failed misreabley many times, but I tried). Nowadays there seems to be no shame about being sick in public or so ****ed you cant stand. Right time, right place, right people - drinking is some of the best fun you can have if you keep your levels right. My favourite session these days involves starting at around 2pm on a Saturday, drinking through the afternoon watching the results come in, nosebag at around 9pm and home in an easily available taxi by 10pm, befpre all the kids are coked up, blotted and looking for a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Sooner have a decent cuppa these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I like a drink as much as the next man, but whoever thought that relaxing the licencing laws would lead to continental drinking habits was completely and utterly barmy. There are laws in place to deal with this. We need a zero tolerence appraoch to anti social crimes committed when drunk, and zero tolerance towards establishments who serve people who are clearly drunk. When I was younger the landlord used to tell me to bugger off home if I was too ****ed, and if I didn't get the hint the older locals would do the job for him. Personally I think drink is a wonderful thing, and a pub can be a great place.I was once talking to a Frenchman who said to me "in France we go out and sometimes we drink too much, in England you go out with the sole intention that you are going to drink too much". There also seems to be a badge of honour connected to getting ****ed. I used to try and walk home as sober as possible in case anyone my family knew saw me staggering around (I failed misreabley many times, but I tried). Nowadays there seems to be no shame about being sick in public or so ****ed you cant stand. It is. People seem to go out on the continent, drink, but not be massively drunk. I actually think that a lot of it is down to the fact that as a nation, we are unnaturally reserved, probably unhealthily so. You don't see too many Frenchmen or Spaniards having difficulty expressing their feelings in sobriety. That's why the idea of 24 hour drinking ushering in a more continental pattern of drinking was hogwash. We're emotionally repressed b*st*rds, whatever time you close the pubs. Well, all that politeness comes at a price. When you've had to smile sweetly when all you've wanted to do is call someone a giant nobend, it's little wonder that people trade the stiff upper lip in for a half-eaten kebab chucked at a shop window. Gents, I really could not agree more. My roots to the continent go back to the mid 70's, and even then you could drink until 4 in the morning if you so wished. This meant that you were not forced to get as many drinks down your neck as fast as you could before 11 oclock and closing time. Hence a much more relaxed atmosphere in which to socialise and enjoy the night. Unfortunately opening bars and clubs drinking hours really has only made the problem worse as far as I can see, and most city centres appear 'no go' areas on a Fri / Sat night. Personally, even as a young single bloke, I never really saw the need to 'drink til I puked', and that whole sort of outlook is lost on me. Frankly, I'm very happy that I learned my drinking habits in another country - ours are a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 For as long as you have frustrated young men (and women) in frustrating 'go nowhere' jobs who have nothing to look forward except the weekly **** up then you will have town centres like Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Even as a nipper I was always told to avoid town on a Friday night as it was pay day which equaled drunk dockers and fist fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I used to live in Cardiff, and yes it got rough sometimes but I always had a laugh on a night out. Nobody in the world - not even the Russians (ok maybe the Russians but nobody else) - can out-drink the Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 The culture is the same out here dont worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I think Britons tend to drink to excess,because we work longer hours,have less public holidays and for years we never had the freedom to buy alcohol like they could in the rest of the world. I think our old licensing laws meant that we had to cram all of our drinking into a short space of time,thus now they have been relaxed slighly,we cant deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I always feel a little sorry for those who think they have to get rat arsed to enjoy themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I used to live in Cardiff, and yes it got rough sometimes but I always had a laugh on a night out. Nobody in the world - not even the Russians (ok maybe the Russians but nobody else) - can out-drink the Welsh. I used to live in Swansea when the pubs stayed shut on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Nothing wrong with getting ****ed and having a laff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Also i think it has been a bad idea for so many pubs to be shut down in outlying towns,then it forces everyone to go drinking together in town centres,thus causing people to mix,who wouldnt normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Also i think it has been a bad idea for so many pubs to be shut down in outlying towns,then it forces everyone to go drinking together in town centres,thus causing people to mix,who wouldnt normally. The nanny state smoking ban has killed off pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 The nanny state smoking ban has killed off pubs. This is very true. As an ex smoker I can totally sympathise with smokers, to them beer and fags go togeather. Smoker are the lepers of society, we have made them the social outcasts. Much of my work is in Germany - many hotels, pubs and even restaurants cater for smokers. I think that a total ban was somewhat draconian and unwarranted in may ways - and as you say has help extinquish many pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 The nanny state smoking ban has killed off pubs. Totally agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Also i think it has been a bad idea for so many pubs to be shut down in outlying towns,then it forces everyone to go drinking together in town centres,thus causing people to mix,who wouldnt normally. The nanny state smoking ban has killed off pubs. Seen it with my own eyes, unfortunately. The main road near to my house was teeming with pubs 10 years ago. This month, the last one has been closed and put up for rent. The others have either been outright demolished or turned to other uses. The people behind the smoking ban thought "Ah, people who go to pubs will be less inclined to smoke". Nope, people who smoke will be less inclined to go to pubs. And now we have no pubs, concentrating everyone in city centre, as rocknrollman points out. Big knock on effect everywhere else too. Fewer people going out means fewer taxis, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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