jamesfp1 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 We'll get bolton as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I'd hope for Aldershot at home just to (hopefully) progress. Selfishly I'd like it to be away at one of the following just so I could go: - Man Utd Man City Stoke Everton Liverpool Blackburn Bolton Burnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 You're not the only one being selfish. I'd like to play Liverpool or Everton away. Nige and the lads can pick me up in the bus. I'm not out of their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I'd hope for Aldershot at home just to (hopefully) progress. Selfishly I'd like it to be away at one of the following just so I could go: - Man Utd Man City Stoke Everton Liverpool Blackburn Bolton Burnley btw, your location - Wigan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 (edited) Good chance that it could be a north west club!! Edited 24 September, 2011 by Dr Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Newcastle are 4th in the prem. Totally false position. They have been shocking. Despite the fact their defensive record is the best in the Prem, this is down to luck more than judgement. Arsenal, Sunderland, Villa and QPR have all been guilty of poor finishing against them and they are toothless up front. Decent midfield in Tiote and Cabaye (who is looking like the best signing of the season so far) and Ben Arfa to come back but I think an outfit like us would have a great shout of beating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 in order of their current league position: Man Utd Man Citeh Chelski Newcastle Stoke Everton Liverpool Wolves Blackburn Arsenal Bolton Saints Cardiff C. Palace Burnley Aldershot I know there will be many on here hoping for us to get the Arse away, or either of the Mancs/Scousers at home. However, I always want to see Saints win EVERY match so a home tie against Aldershot would be top of my wish list. Having said that, it would also be quite interesting for Pards to bring Leon Best and the 'toon down here. Stoke Wolves Burnley Aldershot As these are grounds I have somehow not managed to go to!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Totally false position. They have been shocking. Despite the fact their defensive record is the best in the Prem, this is down to luck more than judgement. Arsenal, Sunderland, Villa and QPR have all been guilty of poor finishing against them and they are toothless up front. Decent midfield in Tiote and Cabaye (who is looking like the best signing of the season so far) and Ben Arfa to come back but I think an outfit like us would have a great shout of beating them. I think we can all agree that Newcastle will not end 4th, or in the top half for that matter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Aldershot or Arsenal away would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffy Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I reckon it'll be home to Stoke reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 It'll be Manchester United again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Manclechester Conurbation at home. We've had Untidy at home twice in the last 4 years, board with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 ANyone know what week these games would be played in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 ANyone know what week these games would be played in? The 4th round is due to be played in the w/c 24 Oct (between reading (a) and BORO (H) - imo 2 important games) The draw is Sat at approx 12:10. We are no 14 in the draw http://www.football-league.co.uk/carlingcup/news/20110922/carling-cup-round-4-draw-details_2293330_2459095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 One the the northern teams away so I can pop along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Aldershot away or anybody that's not boring at home. And when I say boring, I mean any of the Championship sides really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Arsenal at home. We win, Oxlade Chamberlain cries. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 It will probably be Burnley cos we always seem to draw the team we have or are just about to play in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Birmingham won the League Cup last season, Championship Ipswich made the semi finals, little reason why Saints can't do well. I want Saints to win. Best chance of a win is... Aldershot at St Mary's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 what's the betting we get Newcastle away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Aldershot for me. Not for an easier game, but so NA can trot out the fringe players again and keep the competition for a first team place going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 The best chance of a win would actually be Burnley at St Mary's They'll be utterly demoralised by our win at their place this Saturday and by late October they'll be in the relegation places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 The 4th round is due to be played in the w/c 24 Oct (between reading (a) and BORO (H) - imo 2 important games) The draw is Sat at approx 12:10. We are no 14 in the draw http://www.football-league.co.uk/carlingcup/news/20110922/carling-cup-round-4-draw-details_2293330_2459095 Cheers. Getting surprisingly excited about this draw which guarantees it's going to be a let down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Match 1 - cardiff vs aldershot Match 2 - palace vs wolves Match 3 - burnley vs liverpool Match 4 - everton vs man city Match 5 - chelsea vs man utd Match 6 - blackburn vs arsenal Match 7 - saints vs newcastle Match 8 - bolton vs stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Good chance that it could be a north east club!! Is 1 in 15 a good chance? Better chance that it will be a north west club, 7 in 15 to be exact. Personally would like to get Newcastle, Arsenal or Aldershot at home. Please not Manure or Citeh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 One of the north-west clubs away for me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I would prefer someone bigger than us but not too big. man u the way they are playing at the mo would see us out of the cup, Arsenal dispite the way they are playing would probably be too big a step too. But Toon or Stoke would on paper look like a winnable game and a good progression to the next round should we get past them. By then the confidence should be higher and a bigger team may be more do-able. Rather the league is the priority but would also like to keep in the winning habit so the cup should still be taken seriously Wouldn't want Stoke away. Britannia Stadium is not a happy hunting ground for visiting teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Ideal draw for me would be: Liverpool v Chelsea Man City v Man Utd Everton v Arsenal Southampton v Aldershot Bolton v Stoke Cardiff v Wolves Burnley v Palace Newcastle v Blackburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Arsenal away would be great as always wanted to go to emmirates and Oxo would surely play. Also half term that week which is perfick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Ideal draw for me would be: Liverpool v Chelsea Man City v Man Utd Everton v Arsenal Southampton v Aldershot Bolton v Stoke Cardiff v Wolves Burnley v Palace Newcastle v Blackburn This for me too but put Stoke at home to Arsenal, they never cope well with that. Love to see Arsene Winger having a moan about his players getting tackled and not being aloud to just take the P1ss out of the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokingsaints Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Palace away with £5 tickets please!! haha night out for a tenner! for those who want Aldershot i'm not sure if they realise what a moody away day that could be. plenty of skates amongst the north bank fans every home game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 what's the betting we get Newcastle away! 15/1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 15/1? 30/1 surely? 15/1 to draw Newcastle (home or away) but 30/1 for away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 30/1 surely? 15/1 to draw Newcastle (home or away) but 30/1 for away? I know not everyone can be way more than just good friends with Carol Vorderman (like I am) but c'mon? There are 16 teams left in total in the competition. 15 other teams not including Saints. Newcastle are one of them. There are 14 others. This makes it 14/1 to draw them (or any other of the teams) (or is 15/1 - I'm saying 14/1 cos 14 chances you don't, 1 chance you do). Whatever - it def ain't 30/1. Odds to draw them at home? I'll let someone else work that out. Carol has had to pop down the shops for 5 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 If you want to be a smart arse about its more complicated than that ;-) If saints drawn first - chance of that is 1 in 16 x 1 in 15 that club A (the one you want drawn next) = 1 in 240 PLUS Chance of Club A being drawn first is 1/16 x Saints drawn second 1/15 = 1/240 PLUS Chance of saints being 3rd in draw is 1/14 x club A being 4th 1/13 = 1 in 182 + vice versa and so on..... Think thats right all the way down to the last paring reducing the odds to 1 in 2... then add them all up... leave that to someone else ;-) Any probability experts know any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 If you want to be a smart arse about its more complicated than that ;-) If saints drawn first - chance of that is 1 in 16 x 1 in 15 that club A (the one you want drawn next) = 1 in 240 PLUS Chance of Club A being drawn first is 1/16 x Saints drawn second 1/15 = 1/240 PLUS Chance of saints being 3rd in draw is 1/14 x club A being 4th 1/13 = 1 in 182 + vice versa and so on..... Think thats right all the way down to the last paring reducing the odds to 1 in 2... then add them all up... leave that to someone else ;-) Any probability experts know any different? I concur.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDogMatt Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Interesting to see the number of you keen to play Arsenal "go to the Emirates" "beatable" "Chamberlain" etc etc I went to the Arsenal Shrew game with an Arsenal mate (£10 ticket) as well as Saints last night and offer the following thoughts:- AOC got better and better as the game went on, scored a great goal, nearly another and was their man of the match; Arsenals second 11 would have beaten our "second 11" easily based on what I saw; At our best and at full strength we could give Arsenal a game at SMS if we rattled them; Our vocal support would have a great night at The Emirates, its some venue I am sure the team would do us proud. COYR, off to Burnley Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Someone on TUI says he has heard from someone at the club it will definitely be Burnley at home. I don't normally post bullsh*t rumours, but this guy correctly predicted Hoiveld signing, Chamberlain to Arsenal, the 8-2 at Old Trafford, 9/11 and the German occupation of Poland so it must be true. Link: http://www.ohmygodicantbelieveyouareclickingthisyougullibleretardedfag.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I know not everyone can be way more than just good friends with Carol Vorderman (like I am) but c'mon? There are 16 teams left in total in the competition. 15 other teams not including Saints. Newcastle are one of them. There are 14 others. This makes it 14/1 to draw them (or any other of the teams) (or is 15/1 - I'm saying 14/1 cos 14 chances you don't, 1 chance you do). Whatever - it def ain't 30/1. Odds to draw them at home? I'll let someone else work that out. Carol has had to pop down the shops for 5 mins. But it is 1/30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 But it is 1/30. Correct. I think some people are trying to over-elaborate and have not read the question (basic requirement of all examinations). The question posed by JustMike in post #70 was "what's the betting we get Newcastle away!" (at least I think it was a question, the ! is slightly confusing). There are 2 independent events, (1) the chance of Saints drawing Newcastle, which is simply 1 in 15 (or 1/15) and (2) Newcastle being drawn at home, which is 1 in 2 (or 1/2). To find the combined probability of these 2 events they are multiplied together, so 1/15 * 1/2, which is 1/30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Correct. I think some people are trying to over-elaborate and have not read the question (basic requirement of all examinations). The question posed by JustMike in post #70 was "what's the betting we get Newcastle away!" (at least I think it was a question, the ! is slightly confusing). There are 2 independent events, (1) the chance of Saints drawing Newcastle, which is simply 1 in 15 (or 1/15) and (2) Newcastle being drawn at home, which is 1 in 2 (or 1/2). To find the combined probability of these 2 events they are multiplied together, so 1/15 * 1/2, which is 1/30. Er... not sure... confused now, BUT are you right? .... if you have 16 teams, what is the total number of possible combination of matches? If it was a 16 team league it would mean 30 weeks of 8 games a week = 240 matches (or combination of matches) Only 1 of these games will be Saints v Newcastle so 1/240 + 1/240 chance that its Newcastle v Saints giving (1/120) However, as its a cup you have to select 1 week only ( at random) so the odds that in any week saints will be playing Newcastle - is actually 2/30 as saints must play them twice to complete the season ;-) so that makes it 1 in 15 surely? LOL ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Someone on TUI says he has heard from someone at the club it will definitely be Burnley at home. I don't normally post bullsh*t rumours, but this guy correctly predicted Hoiveld signing, Chamberlain to Arsenal, the 8-2 at Old Trafford, 9/11 and the German occupation of Poland so it must be true. Link: www.ohmygodicantbelieveyouareclickingthisyougullibleretardedfag.org.uk Alright, you got one atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Er... not sure... confused now, BUT are you right? .... if you have 16 teams, what is the total number of possible combination of matches? If it was a 16 team league it would mean 30 weeks of 8 games a week = 240 matches (or combination of matches) Only 1 of these games will be Saints v Newcastle so 1/240 + 1/240 chance that its Newcastle v Saints giving (1/120) However, as its a cup you have to select 1 week only ( at random) so the odds that in any week saints will be playing Newcastle - is actually 2/30 as saints must play them twice to complete the season ;-) so that makes it 1 in 15 surely? LOL ;-) Blimey ..talk about convoluted reasoning. 1/240 is the chance that saints v newcaslte is drawn first, or in any specified place in the order. (1/120 if you don't care if it is home or away). I'm with the 1/15 probability (ie odd of 14 to 1 against) of playing Newcastle. Or 1/30 (29 to 1) chance of it being at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Completely unbothered by the moodiness, it's another ground to tick off Have you been to their ground!! I do some work near there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 I think it is written in the stars that we will get either Arsenal or Newcastle. The whole Pardew/AOC return thing. And to be honest i'd be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Correct. I think some people are trying to over-elaborate and have not read the question (basic requirement of all examinations). The question posed by JustMike in post #70 was "what's the betting we get Newcastle away!" (at least I think it was a question, the ! is slightly confusing). There are 2 independent events, (1) the chance of Saints drawing Newcastle, which is simply 1 in 15 (or 1/15) and (2) Newcastle being drawn at home, which is 1 in 2 (or 1/2). To find the combined probability of these 2 events they are multiplied together, so 1/15 * 1/2, which is 1/30. so basically i was right then? and that Rut who gave it the patronising "you might not be friends with Carol Vorderman but c'mon' can f*ck right off with his maths as he is clearly paying attention to some of her other assets rather than reading the question properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Yes, I know it was a stupid post - but the thought just pees me off too much. I hate the way he whined about Fabregas and Barca whilst he was doing the same to us with AOC. Sooooooo well put.......Lost all respect for the guy - Mr 'I didn't see that' . Want's everything his way. He has joined the list - Poyet, Warnock and Holloway also are in this league of 'dissing' Saints wallies........They are all self obsessed conceited, hypocrites......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 4/11 that we get a Premiership team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 so basically i was right then? and that Rut who gave it the patronising "you might not be friends with Carol Vorderman but c'mon' can f*ck right off with his maths as he is clearly paying attention to some of her other assets rather than reading the question properly Guilty as charged there but I think the question was 'what are the odds we draw Newcastle' (with no mention of H/A). That ain't 30/1. Anyway - who really gives a flying one. What ever name comes out of the hat, comes out of the hat... Talking of Cup draws - I hate this modern day thing of knowing what number your team is. Half the fun of a draw was trying to work out what number you were (cos Stoke were number 28, we must be about 25) as it went along. Always being totally wrong of course, but it is way better waiting for the of your team to be read out - rather than the . All in my opinion of course but surely I can't be the only one who thinks this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 23 September, 2011 Share Posted 23 September, 2011 Arsenal or Aldershot away. Failing that, anyone at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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