Saint Billy Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 If our present form continues and we gain promotion, big if I know, but how long will it be before bigger clubs start sniffing around Nigel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 If our present form continues and we gain promotion, big if I know, but how long will it be before bigger clubs start sniffing around Nigel? He will be with us for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 OMG man, why are you so negative??? Firstly why is it a big IF that we will achieve promotion, we have got a superb team at the moment playing some fantastic football and sit top of the league. Secondly if we do achieve promotion why do you question are managers loyalty??? I know for a fact that he absolutely loves this club and the area and is overwhelmed by our huge passionate fanbase. We are bigger than half the clubs currently in the premier league anyway...... Nigel and this squad would be remembered as legends for getting us promoted back to where we belong. What is happening at Saints at the moment is something very special and I am sure Adkins has no thoughts of leaving the building at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 F**k me, the negativity in this place even p*sses me off sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 clubs would be alerted to the success of NA. His behavior when he joined us shows he would not leave easily and without thought for his employers. I suspect we are a fantastic job and if we go up why leave? I doubt any of the big 4 would be after him, anyway in time we could well be in the upper reaches of the Pl and so even less reason for him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 What truly bigger clubs would be interested? We'd be talking top half prem I assume, so the choices are few, he has no experience of that level, and he's clearly a long term manager, not one to sign a new team as many want, and not a big ego seeking fame, and not a trendy foreign name. Can't see demand being that high even if/when he gets us up. I think he'd have to take us into Europe for demand to really grow. i can see a club like Everton trying to get him in with the scouse connection, but can't see them being able to attract him just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 F**k me, the negativity in this place even p*sses me off sometimes. Ha, it's funny because you're negative a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 i can see a club like Everton trying to get him in with the scouse connection, but can't see them being able to attract him just yet. They could try, when Moyes eventually gets bored of banging his head against that glass ceiling (get money on him being the next Spurs manager, by the way), but other than Premier League football - which we might have ourselves in the medium-term - we've probably got better resources at our disposal than Everton at the moment. They were that desperate for cash that they sold their top scorer to a club in the division below them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 F**k me, the negativity in this place even p*sses me off sometimes. here I am agreeing with you AGAIN, Alpine. Realism is one thing but surely everyone must see that Nigel Adkins is devoted to " this football club" .... our club. What more could he ask?. We're creating new records every week. He has formed a really tight squad, and almost anyone could hop in for anyone else. There's money in the bank, if he wants to spend it, and a Chairman who chose him and who has confidence in him. Some of these posts sound like they come from someone who is waiting to be hit by a truck, or struck by lightning.. Aside from which few managers have created teams that top the table and hammer in goals every match...why would he want to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 i can see a club like Everton trying to get him in with the scouse connection, but can't see them being able to attract him just yet. I can't see Nigel leaving us for a club with smaller ambitions like Everton - unless we sack him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 I think he will be with us for a good length of time. The only one we have to worry about is Liverpool. It's the team he supported as a kid (and probably still does) and he I guess would consider it as the pinnacle of club managment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 (edited) If he gets Saints promoted, which clubs can offer Adkins more than he has at Saints? Man Utd Liverpool Arsenal Man City Chelsea Tottenham None of which would be interested in Adkins, as he hasn't achieved enough to warrant them being interested in him. Then you have... Everton Aston Villa Newcastle Sunderland Bigger fanbases than Saints, but do they offer anything better than what Adkins would get at Saints in terms of resources and infrastructure? Cortese has made it clear when Saints get back to the Premier League the intention is to compete towards the top of it, not struggle at the bottom or make do in mid table. Everyone else in the Premier League I would say is a step down (or at the very least a move sideways and thus pointless) if he were to leave a Saints, having got them promoted to it. Edited 21 September, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 How about just enjoying the ride and quit fretting over things that you have absolutely no control over..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 I get the impression that NA has got a very good working relationship with NC, long may it last. TBH I was not convinced with the appointment of NA at first, along with a good many others but I am starting to warm to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 'Til England come calling, after a prolonged period of our European & Domestic domination, and, even then, NC will say "screw England, I'm Italian, I refuse to release him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 I get the impression that NA has got a very good working relationship with NC, long may it last. TBH I was not convinced with the appointment of NA at first, along with a good many others but I am starting to warm to him. Starting to warm to him!!!!....... does that mean you still have doubts about him being the best man for saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 Everyone else in the Premier League I would say is a step down (or at the very least a move sideways and thus pointless) if he were to leave a Saints, having got them promoted to it. This assumes he does get us promoted. We're 7 games into a 46-game season At this stage, any one of the twenty teams in the Premier League is a massive step up simply because they are competing in the Premier League. That's not to say I think he'll go anywhere, at least in the short-term, but you never know what might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 Got no facts and figures to back this up at my fingertips, but didn't NA spend quite a number of years at Scunny before joining us. And... Even then he showed great reluctance to move and was very proper amd respectful in his dealings with both club's. Personally I think he is just a decent chap who has loyalty and honour, and would 'do right' for any club he was employed by. At present he in addition has success, resources, and if rumours are correct, a good working relationship with his boss. If you were in his shoes, Would you leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 This assumes he does get us promoted. We're 7 games into a 46-game season At this stage, any one of the twenty teams in the Premier League is a massive step up simply because they are competing in the Premier League. That's not to say I think he'll go anywhere, at least in the short-term, but you never know what might happen. That is selective quoting Steve My opening words to the post were... "If he gets Saints promoted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 He's a very, very loyal character. I expect he'll be our manager for years to come. Remember when we took him from Scunny? He absolutely refused to move until compensation was agreed between us and Scunny - he said he wouldn't resign and therefore wouldn't let it go to tribunal. The clubs had to agree, or he was going nowhere. He completely earned my respect by doing that - and there's no doubt in my mind he'd do exactly the same should a "bigger" club come calling. Given he's on a 5-year deal now, a bigger club would have to stump up some serious wonga to take him off our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 21 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 September, 2011 FFS, why am I being tagged as being negative. In this day and age of football, anyone, manager or footballer who has and shows some ability in the game is normally soon shown some attention by bigger clubs. Take for instance David Moyes, was he not at Preston before Everton? Did I say I want NA to go? Did I say I expect him to go? And as far as promotion is concerned, we have had a great great start but there is a long way to go till I start creaming my pants with the prospect. What a fecking bunch of woman you lot are sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 This assumes he does get us promoted. We're 7 games into a 46-game season At this stage, any one of the twenty teams in the Premier League is a massive step up simply because they are competing in the Premier League. That's not to say I think he'll go anywhere, at least in the short-term, but you never know what might happen. You are right, no-one can know the future but I am quietly confident that he is here for the long haul. I also think that results would have to get really bad for a prolonged period for NC to sack him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 If I was an Arsenal fan, I would be crying out for Wenger to be replaced by someone like Adkins .... but these days football is so strange. The top clubs are so far up the ar se of the Champios League that they will not pick an up and coming English manager like Adkins. Their new manager will have to have European experience and know the ins and outs of the Potuguese second division or the name of Messi's barber. I bet that Nigel doesn't even know the best route to the San Siro from the airport!! These days you cannot just pick a good English manager from ouside the Premiership for these sort of clubs. A big club would also need a name as their next manager. I mean , who at Sky has even heard of Nigel Adkins ?? Has he ever been a summariser on a televised Champions League game?? Has he ever been interviewed on the Talk Sport radio breakfast show ?? You won't be able to convince your average plastic Manc or your stay at home Chelsea fan / Gooner that you have chosen a good manager if he hasn't been spotted fawning round Jamie Rednapp or talking b ollocks with Alan Brazil. I think that Saint Nigel is here for a long time.... and I am delighted by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 Nigel will be the next England manager but one, after a couple of adventures in the Champions League with the Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 Sparrows are smaller birds than eagles. My whippet is bigger than a gerbil. But in the end is a can of tomato soup really worth ending rabies awareness week one day early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 NA may have appeared in the radar of the bigger clubs, but they will not be interested until he has achieved something more than promotion from the third to second division. He won't get to be manager of a bigger club than Saints for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 NA will get linked with prem jobs, there see hes doing great with a medium to big club with demanding fans who fell from grace and see his great recored without spending loads, but he will stay here teams like Blackburn Bolton would come calling and there be no point leaving when he can become a legend and build a legacy here. and turn us from league one to midtable prem team and MAYBE a top 8 team if we carry on producing youth talent and either keep or sell for big money. Lets just hope after 20-23 games were still where we are and after 46 were top 6, so if blackburn or who ever does sack there manager there would be no temptation for NA to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 OP should listen to the pre-match NA interview on Solent. He nailed why we are successful & why he is really enjoying it. He will know that may not be the case anywhere else. He knows we are going up this year. That was also clear, it is his target and everyone is focused on staying where we are in the League. Only team to beat him at home all year were Man Ure, he doesn't need to leave he knows his ability will get us up there this year. Us lot ain't convinced by any stretch but he knows, that comes through with the squad as well. He can hit the PL with a quality squad and needing a few pieces of the jigsaw and knowing he has the support staff and the Chairman's support to do it. So until Fergie, Mancini or Villa Boas go, the only club he'd leave us for would be Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 How about just enjoying the ride and quit fretting over things that you have absolutely no control over..... But what can we control? I'd love to hear Nigel's take on what can be controlled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 21 September, 2011 Share Posted 21 September, 2011 Sparrows are smaller birds than eagles. My whippet is bigger than a gerbil. But in the end is a can of tomato soup really worth ending rabies awareness week one day early? Damn. You just beat me to it. I was just about to make exactly the same point. I'm sure I read somewhere that the only club he would go to is Liverpool. And Kenny will be there for a long time yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 This - great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 or the name of Messi's barber. Stevie Wonder. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Does anyone know what his win/loss ratio is since joining us? I read it the other day but can't find the article. I can only rely on what I read on here and Saints Player but I love the fact that we're not just winning but it's in the right way. He's such a positive manager and it reflects in how the team play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 One of the things that makes Adkins appear different to just about all football managers is he seems an intelligent man who isn't just looking to enhance his wallet. Contrast this with Pardew who Cortese correctly realised was going to f'k off at the first opportunity (which would have been when the Toon cam knocking) and so got in first and sacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 But what can we control? I'd love to hear Nigel's take on what can be controlled... Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that his answer would be 'the controllables'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that his answer would be 'the controllables'... Coffee nose monitor keyboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 This - great post. Not saying you're wrong, but I've seen better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Rick Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 If he gets us promoted this season and we get off to a good start in the prem (top 12), Liverpool would probably come knocking which I'm sure would turn him being a Liverpool fan. All depends on how well Liverpool are doing this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 At this stage, any one of the twenty teams in the Premier League is a massive step up simply because they are competing in the Premier League. I would dispute that any of the 20 Premiership clubs were a step up from us. There will be three clubs that will be relegated from the Premiership last season, as there were this season. It could be argued that we are better than at least some of those teams relegated last year, or showing signs of becoming victims of the drop this season. Then it is again arguable that we are a bigger club than some of those currently in the Premiership. Does league position solely determine whether a club is a step up or not, or should factors such as ground capacity, attendances, infrastructure, ambition, etc, have a bearing on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Nige has always struck me as someone who rarely lets his heart rule his head. In my opinion he will be a great manager, who will earn lots of success, hopefully with us for a long time yet, but he will have people taking notice. Lest we forget, it was reported that Les Reed was the one who recommended him to Cortese, and he has been involved at senior couching levels in this country for some time. I think Nigel will need some pretty big assurances about any potential new job, if and when offers come in. He knows he is part of a great set-up here with a LOT of potential, and any potential new job will have to offer him more potential than he has here. As Steve says above, any Premiership role would by definition be a 'step up' from us at present, BUT, in terms of potential I think there are very few clubs who can claim to be in the position we are in with so much to look forward to. Nigel knows he has work to do to realise that potential, but in such a supportive climate and club, with the fans backing and players clearly enjoying playing under you, I think Nigel is the kind of man who will recognise that he can probably achieve a huge amount here, and that to do so from League 1 will be far more rewarding than going to an established Premiership club. Things will change, who knows what will happen but my gut feeling for the foreseeble future is overwhelmingly positive and it all revolves around our Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I think he will be with us until at least the end of next season. IF we have not gone up by then he may leave or even get sacked!!! This word may sound silly now but football is fickle and things change quickly.... this is why as fans we should enjoy what is happening at the moment as it will NOT last forever! If we do go up this season or next, then I think he will stay for a season in the Prem, and depending on how well we do, move on to another club, or even again get sacked! I would love to see us go up this year and then compete in the Premier League.... and if we do, we will probably see him get offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 we've probably got better resources at our disposal than Everton at the moment. They were that desperate for cash that they sold their top scorer to a club in the division below them. putting that into context they were desperate to sell in order to continue paying the top players wages that are bigger than Arsenal pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I believe NA will stay with us for a long time. As many above have pointed out the really big teams would not be interested until he has some European experience. Other big clubs TH, AV, Toon, Everton might be interested if we were promoted but everthing NA has done and said indictaes he likes to finish what he starts and promotion to the PL is only the next step. As to Liverpool, being a fan has very little relevance even if they wanted him, very few Mangaers or Players are employed by the Club they 'support', managers esepicially need a degree of detachment. I see several parralels with LM, minmal playing achivemnet, plucked from an unfashionable Licolnshire Club, excellent man mangement, able to get the best out of players the only thing he hasnt done according to LMs blueprint is bring in older slightly over the hill top class players e.g. Osgood, Rodrigues, George etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 one word .... "LIVERPOOL" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 one word .... "LIVERPOOL" King Kenny will be there for a few years yet. Long enough for us to be above them in the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 He will ever be god for Liverpool unless hoe is managing a team in the top 6 at least and won a major trophy Look at the crap woy got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Good God give the OP a break! This is a discussion forum after all, and I see no negativity in his question at all, rather a good point to speculate in-between match days. Stranger things have happened and there will be many clubs keeping a close eye on Nig, and he may move for a number of reasons we are unaware of (MO wanted to stay close to the Midlands due to personal reasons for example, when Man U were apparently after him). Also as a manager (non footy) one of my main tasks is succession planning – who could replace me or one of my managers, their workers etc. as anyone could leave or GFB (God For Bid) die etc. etc. Fail to plan = Plan to fail. Trust me NC will have a succession plan A, B and possibly C. For the record I was and am very happy with NA, and believe he will stay for another 4 to 5 years and will be one of our better managers. However that is no reason on not speculating – is this any worse than speculating about Owen, O’Neil, Hasbeen (sorry, Bridge, JB) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 He will ever be god for Liverpool unless hoe is managing a team in the top 6 at least and won a major trophy Look at the crap woy got Err - can I have a pint of what you are drinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 Err - can I have a pint of what you are drinking? So when and pat what point will nigel Adkins be Liverpool manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 22 September, 2011 Share Posted 22 September, 2011 I meant I have no idea what you are trying to say! If however you mean Liverpool would never appoint someone who has never managed a top 6 PL side and won major honours - try looking up their previous history - start with a certain Roy H someone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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