Time is now up for Lowe & Wilde

[up and away]

Just who do you think wrote this total b******** statement thanking the Executives for their hard work and creditable results????

 

I'll give you a clue, it was the outgoing Executives themselves.

 

Not a clue. Of course it was the out going execs. That was their price for sliding away quietly with their work bigged up, not only by the OS but your rosy cheeks as well.

 

 

Hold on a minute, I thought you maintained that the Execs did nothing wrong during their time here.

 

Are you now saying their own claims that they did a creditable job are horse??????

 

Just what exactly is your position as you seem to be changing sides more times than the Italians did in the World War II

 

It's very simple, you employ someone to do a job and they put in an average performance to your requirements. Just because you realise 6 months down the line you needed something completely different, it's no fault of the employees.

 

 

 

And once again you totally miss the point.

 

This statement was written by the Executives who only a month or so earlier had been running the scare story about the January firesale.

 

So why the sudden change of heart from them??

 

What scare story (or in anyone else's book the truth) or are you so dim witted you cannot see what is going on now? Once again this was obviously changed at the behest of someone in authority at Saints, any idea who? This was the price of silence, but this is all to difficult for you. I suggest you get a 6 year old to explain it clearly for you.

[trousers]

I wonder whether he ever logs on these days.

 

scooby

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Last Activity: 18-10-2008 08:28 PM

[um pahars]

Not a clue. Of course it was the out going execs. That was their price for sliding away quietly with their work bigged up, not only by the OS but your rosy cheeks as well.

 

Do you really think that Crouch was OK with Hone going out under that piece of fiction. Hone still had the keys to the castle that Monday morning and put that statement out. Crouch (and others) was absolutely livid with the way they absolved themselves of any blame.

 

Of course he ended up swallowing it as it meant the Executives were leaving, but to think the Executives were going with a pat on the back beggars belief.

 

The way the Executives ran the Club for the previous six months (inc Hoos and Jones) and the failure to implement Plan B was a huge mistake.

 

It's very simple, you employ someone to do a job and they put in an average performance to your requirements. Just because you realise 6 months down the line you needed something completely different, it's no fault of the employees.

 

The Executives presided over the period when players wages went up by something like 24% over the same period the season before, a period when revenue was dropping by £7m and you still stand by and support them & say they did an average job.

 

Up until that sumer they did indeed do an average job, but their failure to control spending when income fell away was a big, big mistake. A mistake that they alone took the decision over.

 

What exactly was the point of your initial piece because it did nothing apart from show you up to be rather naive with regards the actions of the Executives and how your support for them in those final six months is seriously misplaced.

[up and away]

The Executives presided over the period when players wages went up by something like 24% over the same period the season before, a period when revenue was dropping by £7m and you still stand by and support them & say they did an average job.

 

Up until that sumer they did indeed do an average job, but their failure to control spending when income fell away was a big, big mistake. A mistake that they alone took the decision over.

 

What exactly was the point of your initial piece because it did nothing apart from show you up to be rather naive with regards the actions of the Executives and how your support for them in those final six months is seriously misplaced.

 

Do you believe that throughout all of this, if Lowe was asked to side with Wilde or Crouch to make the execs toe the financial line to leave something for the future it would not have been done? You really are an idiot of the highest order, clearly depicted by your previous stands which you now try to distance yourself from.

 

So according to you Lowe would never of agreed to cut costs and sort the mess out, despite stating and acting in this manner consistently from the beginning. The only reason the execs did what they did was because enough share holders never stood up against the line they were following. They were just given the remit to help Burley as much as possible with what could be afforded. No long term plan or worry over the future, just here and now. If Crouch or Wilde did not agree with this they could easily have done something about it, as we saw when the execs were removed, but that would mean agreement with Lowe. This is a sad state of affairs where everyone has been more concerned with petty battles than what is best for Saints, you epitomise that stance perfectly.

[NickG]

is it just me, but am reading the scooby bits in this thread and missing out "up and away"s /"um pahars" discussion out?

[um pahars]

Do you believe that throughout all of this, if Lowe was asked to side with Wilde or Crouch to make the execs toe the financial line to leave something for the future it would not have been done?

 

Bu the problem was that Lowe, Wide and Crouch couldn't and wouldn't agree on anything at that time.

 

Even as late on as the Runnymede meeting Lowe could not agree to work with Wilde, and Wilde could not agree to work with Lowe!!!!!!!! And Lowe and Crouch were probably even less likely to agree on anything.

 

All three of them must shoulder their share of responsiblity for allowing their *****fest to get in the way of the Club's future. I have never shyed away from that stance and have maintained that during that period they should have come together for the common good as the Executives were overspending big time.

 

They were all at fault, not just your pet hate Mr Crouch.

 

Indeed, if as you claim Wilde and Lowe were polled about Thompson returning in the summer, then why didn't they have a word in the Executives ear at that point to curb the spending???????

 

However, just because the shareholders were all acting like dikcs, that still doesn't excuse the actions of the Executives in that period.

 

They were paid professionals who should not have acted in such a cavalier manner. It begars belief that they would increase the salaries at a time when revenue was falling.

 

They didn't need a nudge from the shareholders to remind them they were overspending, they should have known that themselves.

 

PLC executives don't continually refer daily, weekly or even monthly decisions back to the shareholders. They are paid to run the company as they see fit.

 

The Executives must take a huge portion of blame for those poor decisions and they can't hide behind the line "that no one was telling us what to do" or "no one was complaining".

Edited 28 October, 2008 by um pahars