exit2 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3808119/Top-Premier-footie-ace-is-on-cocaine.html This will be very interesting.......................future abuse of the player where ever he goes now!
Raging Bull Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Wouldn't surprise me if its Carroll.. Good call! Wouldn't be surprised if it was Bellamy either.
Dog Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 (edited) Dyer-bolical . Edited 12 September, 2011 by Dog
JackFrost Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Asamoah Gyan? Saying that he's daft going to Al-Ain in the UAE on loan if it is
sambosa75 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Presumably it's not someone currently playing. Surely they would have failed a drugs test and been banned, so I reckon someone who has all of a sudden fallen "out of favour" and hasn't been getting a look in for the past year or so.
keithd Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 No doubt last minute injunctions will prevent Despatches from naming him Does this come as a surprise to anybody? Highly paid young man takes cocaine?
saintjay77 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 To be fair I wold be surprised if its just one player. Bit of a shame if only one gets singled out but no doubt it will soon be followed with others that get found out. Cocaine and Pot seem far more socialy acceptable these days and many people with money see it as just part of a night out and not doing any harm. Footy players with bags loads of money would no doubt be mixing with plenty of people that do this kind of stuff so it wouldnt be hard to get involved.
saintjay77 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Presumably it's not someone currently playing. Surely they would have failed a drugs test and been banned, so I reckon someone who has all of a sudden fallen "out of favour" and hasn't been getting a look in for the past year or so. Isnt the dispatches thing going on about how people have got around the drugs testing or got away with not being tested for 2 years or something? Joey Barton tweeted something the other day about the dispatches thing on tonight. Saying he had never seen anything that they are aledging so was interested in seeing what they come up with.
saint.tom.clancy Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 No shock really, i'm sure many have done / still do it. Be interesting to see if its a genuine "star" and not just some Golakeeper from Wigan reserves.
gaz Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Presumably it's not someone currently playing. Surely they would have failed a drugs test and been banned, so I reckon someone who has all of a sudden fallen "out of favour" and hasn't been getting a look in for the past year or so. Who is that Hull player who suddenly departed the 1st team for unexplained reasons?
stkev7 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Probably Phil Neville, he's always been a naughty lad and up to no good...
Gingeletiss Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Hasn't done Paul Merson any harm! Working for sky and all!
saintjay77 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Hasn't done Paul Merson any harm! Working for sky and all! I have a tedious link to him and heard he is much the same as he always has been.
Chez Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Isnt the dispatches thing going on about how people have got around the drugs testing or got away with not being tested for 2 years or something? I thought charlie only stayed in the system for a couple of days making it easy to avoid detection (unless a random drugs tester turns up at training) unlike hash which stays in the system for much longer.
saintjay77 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 I thought charlie only stayed in the system for a couple of days making it easy to avoid detection (unless a random drugs tester turns up at training) unlike hash which stays in the system for much longer. Not sure to be honest. Think they do urine samples for tests which makes me think that results wont stay in the system for very long. Blood tests I would of thought have traces in the system for longer. Will be interesting to see what Dispatches think they have come up with tonight though.
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 I thought charlie only stayed in the system for a couple of days making it easy to avoid detection (unless a random drugs tester turns up at training) unlike hash which stays in the system for much longer. No months, I believe!
egg Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Not always in urine. Hair will last months, but is not used in football. I get involved in drug testing for work. Loads of people fail hair strand testing after getting through urine tests. People thought Britney was going mad when she shaved her hair... Concateno Tricotech are the main testing company. There website is quite informative oh these things.
gaz Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 http://www.avfcforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&p=218823 BT? Or Crouchie?
pap Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Not always in urine. Hair will last months, but is not used in football. I get involved in drug testing for work. Loads of people fail hair strand testing after getting through urine tests. People thought Britney was going mad when she shaved her hair... Concateno Tricotech are the main testing company. There website is quite informative oh these things. Most class A drugs are out of your urine in 72 hours. As Patrick Bateman points out, THC ( cannabis ) will stay in your system for ages. From a "not getting caught on a drugs test perspective", you're actually better off doing hard drugs over a Bank Holiday than you are having a spliff every night. Personally, I don't like drug testing in principle. Assess their suitability on how they do their job, not what they do on a Saturday night. If someone has serious problems, you can spot it straightaway. That said, I did once work for a company which completely failed to spot that one of its employee's was an utter coke fiend. During the day, and in the office. egg : do your tests also look for excessive alcohol consumption?
sambosa75 Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 My colleague reckons its pretty common knowledge that it is Stuart Downing.
ribbo Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Carroll + Nolan we're all over the snow on the white isle earlier this summer.
Thedelldays Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 I female friend of mine was in benidorm a while ago and andy carroll was there....it was at the time all the allegations were in the press about his womanising......he was "wasted" every night groping all the skirt he could would not surprise me if it was him.....there are continuous ramblings in ALL the press about his lifestyle...
Dog Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Why would Andy Carroll or anyone go to Benidorm on holiday?
shirleysfc Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Why would Andy Carroll or anyone go to Benidorm on holiday? To smash the grannie out of Delldays' mate.
Thedelldays Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Why would Andy Carroll or anyone go to Benidorm on holiday? god knows... seen the pics on my mates FB photos....
shirleysfc Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 http://www.avfcforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&p=218823 BT? Or Crouchie? Lol at halfway down that... "I thought Nolan moved because Pardew was banging his wife."
egg Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 egg : do your tests also look for excessive alcohol consumption? Yes, but due to the cost we test for specific drugs. You pay per drug category, ie amphetamines etc. Alcohol is another category. The testing is so advanced now you can usually go back up to six months and test individual months within that. You can also use body hair if someone does a Britney or reaches for the bleach. Alcohol is normally tested by liver function or carbohydrates deficiency testing though, cos its cheap. Neither is perfect and can be "gotten around".
gaz Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Garry O'Connor. Thats one of them. Alex McLeish said he needed an operation and was going to be out for 3-4 months, in reality he failed a drug test (cocaine) and had a 2 month suspension. FA and Birmingham covered it all up.
gaz Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 (edited) Elvis Hammond too. Fulham player, 2003 failed a cocaine test, 6 month ban. Lee Thorpe (Rochdale, 2008 ) failed a test. Everton, Forest, Tranmere have all had positive drug tests too, as had two lower league clubs. Lloyd McGowan (Crewe, 2004 twice and 2005) failed drug tests. Shaun Newton, West Ham, failed a test on matchday, 7 month ban. Richard Sadlier took performance enhancing drugs in 2001 without getting caught, admitted on camera, and had his best season (in his own words). Wasn't tested, infact only tested once in 7 years. Pompey had most drug tests abandoned in the PL (eight), Swansea had most in CCC (twelve). Edited 12 September, 2011 by gaz
Spudders Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Lol. Dirty cheating skates. Who'd have thought it!
wokingsaints Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 Elvis Hammond too. Fulham player, 2003 failed a cocaine test, 6 month ban. is/was on the books at woking fc
latter day saint Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 I wish recreational drugs were legal.
Huntingdon Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 I'm sure the Pompey reference was simply due to players taking Omega 3 supplements
Spudders Posted 12 September, 2011 Posted 12 September, 2011 They don't want fish inside them, they want to get inside fish!
Verbal Posted 13 September, 2011 Posted 13 September, 2011 I'd like to see performance enhancing drugs allowed for the 100 metres. Just to see how fast they could go! I'd be fascinated to see if they could actually get significantly faster because of it. Fine lines with the diet/supplements/energy drinks anyway maybe. Or Bolt and his nuggets and chips diet. It's already been done, by Ben Johnson.
Huffton Posted 13 September, 2011 Posted 13 September, 2011 Thought the program was a bit crap really, then again were the FA ever really going to allow someone to blow open the game? If footballers were put on the same testing regime as cyclists the game would collapse overnight.
gaz Posted 13 September, 2011 Posted 13 September, 2011 Well, who was it? Garry O'Connor. Thats one of them. Alex McLeish said he needed an operation and was going to be out for 3-4 months, in reality he failed a drug test (cocaine) and had a 2 month suspension. FA and Birmingham covered it all up. That. Along with: Elvis Hammond too. Fulham player, 2003 failed a cocaine test, 6 month ban. Lee Thorpe (Rochdale, 2008 ) failed a test. Everton, Forest, Tranmere have all had positive drug tests too, as had two lower league clubs. Lloyd McGowan (Crewe, 2004 twice and 2005) failed drug tests. Shaun Newton, West Ham, failed a test on matchday, 7 month ban. Richard Sadlier took performance enhancing drugs in 2001 without getting caught, admitted on camera, and had his best season (in his own words). Wasn't tested, infact only tested once in 7 years. Pompey had most drug tests abandoned in the PL (eight), Swansea had most in CCC (twelve).
bridge too far Posted 13 September, 2011 Posted 13 September, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/sep/12/fa-drugs-tests-garry-oconnor
norwaysaint Posted 13 September, 2011 Posted 13 September, 2011 Sorry to be dim, but what do you mean by "abandoned" drug tests?
Micky Posted 13 September, 2011 Posted 13 September, 2011 Sorry to be dim, but what do you mean by "abandoned" drug tests? The test team were due to conduct testing on the players, but 'for some reason' the players were not available: "The programme also discovered that between April 2007 and August 2010, 240 drugs tests had to be abandoned because testers turned up at training grounds but players were not there. The clubs involved included Manchester City, Liverpool, Fulham, Everton, Newcastle, Swansea and Crystal Palace." In Pompeys case it was probably more a case that they couldn't find the training ground because, eerrr, they don't actually have one...!!!
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