1976_Child Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Remember all those nob-heads saying that Hat-rickie Lambert was good in league one but would struggle in the Championship? In the words of the bully in the Simpsons: Ha! Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Did they? Maybe people speculated that Rickie may not be able to keep up with the pace, and in fairness at points last season they probably had good reason to think that. He has come back this season and seems a lot leaner and fitter and fair play to him and the club for getting him there. On a separate note, I hate attention seeking 'told you so' threads like this which say more about the mentality of the OP than the people he is talking about IMO and no I never said that about Rickie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Well I always reckoned rickie was better than Grant Holt........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 10 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 September, 2011 plenty of people were saying it. Not just Saints fans, but other clubs too - especially Albion. On a separate note if you don't like the thread then don't reply to it - says a lot about your mentality (not to mention the whole forum-thang is 'attention seeking' at some level) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Hat-rickie? That is awful, and not in a funny way. It's just crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 You haven't made it until you have scored 4 in this league. Still ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Remember all those nob-heads saying that Hat-rickie Lambert was good in league one but would struggle in the Championship? In the words of the bully in the Simpsons: Ha! Ha! Should have done your research on your bully from the Simpsons' name Nelson, for future reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Yes damn those naughty boys and girls for expressing their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 'Told you so.' Sheesh, grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 To be fair Rickie has never played at this level and even he didn't know what to expect going into the season. I did hear somebody questioning whether Lallana could "hack it" at this level, which was plainly bonkers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 I think it's more the fact that people write players off before they've even kicked a ball (see the transfer section for some of the more moronic statements). If you know anything about football and footballers at all you could probably assess fairly accurately a players ability and potential. There are exceptions to that rule but in general, I'd say it was fairly clear that Lambert has probably been playing in leagues that he is likely too good for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 I think it's more the fact that people write players off before they've even kicked a ball (see the transfer section for some of the more moronic statements). If you know anything about football and footballers at all you could probably assess fairly accurately a players ability and potential. There are exceptions to that rule but in general, I'd say it was fairly clear that Lambert has probably been playing in leagues that he is likely too good for. Which begs the question why no managers from a higher level ever took a punt on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Which begs the question why no managers from a higher level ever took a punt on him? I`d imagine that has something to do with Rickie himself, in combination with plain bad luck. Some players never get "discovered", despite every fan in their league raving about them. As for Rickie, he was probably also planted in his comfort zone while with Bristol Rovers. Being ther superstar and highest paid player he perhaps never felt the need to improve. But after coming to us, he`s come to realize that he CAN be a premier league player with just that little bit of extra effort. Which makes all the difference in the world when you are as naturally gifted as Rickie is ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Maybe he was, in some respects, regarded as a bit of a Lee Trundle - lower league enigma who played football more for the love than the money, wasn't absolutely serious about going big time and chasing the money - as long as he was having fun, playing and could have a bit more of a relaxed diet at that level? Maybe..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Always said Lambert couldn't make it at this level, should have had five... ;-) Rickie for England, Wooney who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Lambert is a 3rd choice prem striker for any team outside the top 8, so he could score at least 20 goals at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 plenty of people were saying it. Not just Saints fans, but other clubs too - especially Albion. On a separate note if you don't like the thread then don't reply to it - says a lot about your mentality (not to mention the whole forum-thang is 'attention seeking' at some level) Your right there, Southgate at Boro had Rickie watched, when they suspected getting relegated a couple of years back. RL was there main target and after watching in several times they decided that the championship was not for him. He is fitter and lost lots of weight and is much more agile than he was and that counts for loads at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 We had Brett Ormerod in the prem and I believe RL is a better striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 Lambert is an all round footballer. He scores goals, be they tap in's spectacular efforts or as at Ipswich holding off and beating a CB. But he also adds hugely to the team with his ability to drop deep, hold the ball and play a pass. he isn't an old fashioned lump of a CF and he isn't a speedy old fashioned inside forward. He creates as well as scores. He is by no stretch of imagination a Le Tiss, but his percentage impact on statistics Goals/Assists/Passes must surely be up there with those of the great mans' in the context of the team. Thing is? unlike the Rasiak's/ Stern John's/Saga's/DMG's of recent years, we can all see that Rickie is luvin' it. He plays for the team, not himself. I still believe that he would have given more to England in SAF 2010 than Heskey ever did even though he (Rickie) may not have been as sprightly as he appears to be this season. (No that doesn't say D_P thinks he should play for England, just he would have been better than Heskey -!) Both Lmabert and Lallana may soon face a real dilemna. Here at Saints they play in a team where the style of play has developed from the strengths of the players, - our team is built around the players skills, NOt around a style of play. IF they ever went to another club, they would have to fit in with a different style & tactics, they wouldn't have the same freedoms. Staying with us they can get batter and go higher, can you imagine Rickie or Adam having to play the Stoke way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 Did they? Maybe people speculated that Rickie may not be able to keep up with the pace, and in fairness at points last season they probably had good reason to think that. He has come back this season and seems a lot leaner and fitter and fair play to him and the club for getting him there. On a separate note, I hate attention seeking 'told you so' threads like this which say more about the mentality of the OP than the people he is talking about IMO and no I never said that about Rickie.But to be fair you have made some pretty ******* ridiculous posts before, so I understand your touchy response. Back on topic, Rickie has apparently recently said that before he came to Southampton he had no idea how to look after himself, ie Sleep patterns, correct diet etc, but since being here he has learned a lot and its obvious to see that its coming to fruition on the pitch as we are getting the Rickie Lambert in the form of his life. I'm chuffed to fook for him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 (edited) I think it's more the fact that people write players off before they've even kicked a ball (see the transfer section for some of the more moronic statements). If you know anything about football and footballers at all you could probably assess fairly accurately a players ability and potential. There are exceptions to that rule but in general, I'd say it was fairly clear that Lambert has probably been playing in leagues that he is likely too good for. Well said Crab Lungs. Agree with every word. Making judgements based on opinions from fans in other clubs is another annoying subject, and one that is no more accurate than some of our own often seem to base their opinion on the last game and want the managers head every time we don't keep a clean sheet..or "slag off " our strikers when we only score ONE goal. (e.g. Barnsley and Millwall ). In both cases one goal was worth three points. Yesterday's win was ALSO another 3 points, even if we did concede two goals on the process. An average / good L1 striker scores 12-15 goals a season, and Ricky's last two season have proven that he is more than average... and so worthy of being called an " average " CCC striker. We'll see how " average " he is by the end of the season ! The one factor than many people seem to miss is that an " average to poor " player in one side, can become a star in another side because it's really all down to team play....and how well they fit in...and not only individual performances. Older fans can recall that 60's legend Ron Davies was pretty average Div.2 (CCC) player when we paid a club record fee for his signature...but coming into a side with two great wingers, he couldn't stop scoring and became a club legend. I'm inclined to think that we still haven't seen the best of Ricky Lambert. NO!... I don't expect him to score 30 goals this season, but it's only a handful of players who get to 20 goals in a CCC season, and IMHO .. Ricky has that capacity...and if he stays clear of knocks and fouls...then David Connolly won't be far behind him. It'll be interesting to see how many of the £ multi-million striker we DIDN'T SIGN in the window are also amongst the leading scorers at the end of the season. Edited 11 September, 2011 by david in sweden spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 We had Brett Ormerod in the prem and I believe RL is a better striker. Brett Ormerod would never appear in the leading scorers list, but he worked his socks off in every game and was much more of a team player and provider than a lot he played alongside, or who came after him. As a " journeyman " in his fourth club, he gave value for money in a side that had bigger " stars " who cost much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 Lambert is a super star and he is our super star....Fitter and leaner as he has now fully recovered from his carried injury/groin etc or whatever it was holding back......he will now get fitter and even better.... WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 Rickie has apparently recently said that before he came to Southampton he had no idea how to look after himself, ie Sleep patterns! Anyone know Adkins secret sleep tips? Does he advocates napping as i am always getting moaned at by missus for that. Or is it just Horlicks and 10pm bedtimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 I still believe that he would have given more to England in SAF 2010 than Heskey ever did even though he (Rickie) may not have been as sprightly as he appears to be this season. (No that doesn't say D_P thinks he should play for England, just he would have been better than Heskey -!) I would have been better than Heskey in SA and I havnt played for 20 years not taking anything away from Rickie of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 He looked brilliant all round today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 I was sitting down the front in the Chapel corner yesterday and to see the sheer delight on Rickie's face as he ran past high fiving the crowd was superb. He wasn't just very happy - you could see the emotion in his eyes and what it meant to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 Can't argue with being top goal scorer in the league. Let's hope that continues well into 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 I never doubted that Lambert could cut it at this level. You don't need to be a sprinter to be successful at any level if you have the skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 he is technically very very good...can play as the target man and just off the front... he is in very good shape and right now, a very hungry player...much like BT back in the day.. all that together and you have one hell of a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 I thought he was very good yesterday even without the hat trick - great ball control and distribution in spite of being persistently fouled by being pushed from behind. In terms of nob heads on this forum, we need them for entertainment purposes (except Alpine who I just put on ignore as he is just stupid) but why would you want to write off a Saints player who has been excellent for us since we signed him before even the pre season has kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 He's gone up a level this season, like so many of our players. He looks sharper, leaner, quicker and more mobile than I can ever remember him. He's everything you want in a championship striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 (edited) Anyone know Adkins secret sleep tips? Does he advocates napping as i am always getting moaned at by missus for that. Or is it just Horlicks and 10pm bedtimes? there are quite a few proven sleep tips though not all of them may work for everyone. The "cat nap " idea of taking a short rest during the day is good. I used to complain when my Father used to rest for an hour in the middle of a sport-loaded Saturday afternoon, but when I got to that age, I tried it and it was a real lifesaver, and gave me a " second wind " during a busy day. I've heard that medical staff on long shifts take a short nap with keys in a quiet room with keys held in their hands and when they actually "dropped off " to sleep, the keys fell from their hands and wakened them, but the rest had actually been beneficial. It works..max 30 mins. Horlicks and the like (hot drinks) is not good at all it gives the body stimulation when it actually needs to wind down and rest. ONE ham sandwich (not cheese though) is OK... as is a small amount of fruit, but not too much. Try a small glass of water and wait to eat a good breakfast instead. I was a light sleeper, and was easily woken, but as as I got older slept less ...until I started using earplugs to block out superficial sounds; neighbours, passing traffic, etc - that works well . I sometimes sleep only 5 hours but wake really fresh. I have heard of people using a small blindfold to banish light from the bedroom - that apparantly works, too. AVOID sleeping pills,prescribed by doctors who get commission and it only helps boost profits of pharmacuetical companies who make them and creates a dependancy in the patient. Edited 11 September, 2011 by david in sweden spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 If anyone should be laughed at, it's the teams that didn't take a punt on Rickie two years ago because he was 27, and his re-sale value would be non-existant. It's not always about business decisions, Rickie came in, did a job from day 1, and is still doing it. Sod re-sale value, even if we do go up, I think he's good enough to do a job up there. Yes, he doesn't have the pace, but he has the brain to do well in the top flight, even if he has to do a Mark Hughes-type job a bit deeper on the pitch. He'll easily get 20 goals this season if he stays clear of injury (which he should do - he's a machine!), maybe even get close to 30. I think it speaks volumes though that he plays well, and has said he enjoys playing, with Connolly rather than Barnard. They're both class, and they're both on the same wavelength. It'll take a monumental effort for Lee to get back into the first team when he's fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 11 September, 2011 Share Posted 11 September, 2011 Your right there, Southgate at Boro had Rickie watched, when they suspected getting relegated a couple of years back. RL was there main target and after watching in several times they decided that the championship was not for him. He is fitter and lost lots of weight and is much more agile than he was and that counts for loads at this level. Bumped in to him this afternoon and apart from appearing to have a real spring in his step, I have to say that he looked pretty fit and lithe (not in a man love way BTW!!!!). It seems to be in a really good place at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Remember all those nob-heads saying that Hat-rickie Lambert was good in league one but would struggle in the Championship? In the words of the bully in the Simpsons: Ha! Ha! People were wrong? Then you won't mind me bringing this up in 8 months. you are kidding, right? Automatic promotion? That is the funniest thing I've ever heard! We are going to struggle to stay in the top half of the table. 5 games gone and a lucky start is all. May I remind you all that Blackpool were in the top 4 of the Prem after their first 5 games last season. And now where are they? All this hubris about having a good squad. Yes, fine, they are better than most div 3 sides. But please, get grounded. This is not a Championship winning team, as exciting and thrilling as they are to watch. Get grounded. Mid table is a good result, fighting to stay up is highly probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 As few posters have pinted out, Ricky is not just a goal scorer; his distribution, hold up play, indeed is all round game is fantastic for a big centre forward. If he had lightening pace he would be sensational......... and probably playing in the premier league. I think it is his lack of pace that has detered managers taking a punt on him but as he has proved this season it is about reading the game and being in the right position at the right time that really matters. There is more to come from Ricky in my opinion, he is an intelligent football player who reads a game well and has the vision to create many chances for other players, plus he is undoubtedly a team player. At least 25 goals this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 As few posters have pinted out, Ricky is not just a goal scorer; his distribution, hold up play, indeed is all round game is fantastic for a big centre forward. If he had lightening pace he would be sensational......... and probably playing in the premier league. I think it is his lack of pace that has detered managers taking a punt on him but as he has proved this season it is about reading the game and being in the right position at the right time that really matters. There is more to come from Ricky in my opinion, he is an intelligent football player who reads a game well and has the vision to create many chances for other players, plus he is undoubtedly a team player. At least 25 goals this season. Agree with all that. He looks a lot slimmer too and has outpaced a number of defenders this season-see Goal of the Month on Saints Player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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