benjii Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Josh da bosh. Very good. Exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 read somewhere he was crap and kept heading it up in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Really were you there. Queue people saying he is not as good as vidic etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 September, 2011 read somewhere he was crap and kept heading it up in the air? Yeah, he kept winning headers and they went in the air. That's what defenders do. He was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 read somewhere he was crap and kept heading it up in the air? That just was one of the resident WUMs who wasnt even at the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Really were you there. Queue people saying he is not as good as vidic etc But was he good as Seaborne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 read somewhere he was crap and kept heading it up in the air? Mixed feelings with this win. Fantastic smash and grab against forest who dominated the entire second half and will feel rightly aggrieved with some of the decisions. Fox was awful and got done numerous times. New defender was bad too heading straight up in the air. How forest failed to score more than twice I will never know. They were clearly better than us in the second half. Still we won and lambert was superb. Excellent result and the type we will need if we want to do well. From Match reaction thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Sounds like he had a very good game, very positive reaction on Solent. Very surprising as I'm sure some fans had already written him off after reading a Celtic forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Sounds like he had a very good game, very positive reaction on Solent. Very surprising as I'm sure some fans had already written him off after reading a Celtic forum... Yes, waiting for objective reviews from people at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Last post of the day... I was there, he looked to he exactly what we need. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was solid enough. It's pretty difficult to tell after 90 minutes in a match we didn't control well at all. Especially as he hasn't been playing at Celtic and slotted into an entirely new defence other than Fonte. If he does a job until January then it's a good bit of business. If the unthinkable happens and we nab promotion we'll need a better quality of player, but it's too early to tell how well he'll cope with the Championship. No doubt somebody will point to a couple of pieces of poor distribution but really, who in our defence doesn't knock it stray on occasion? Jos also seems capable of winning headers without climbing all over the opposition's attacker and risking the foul which I like. In summary: not a poor debut by any means, let's give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was alright, he's nice on the ball and likes the play it out from the back which is good. He looks like a tank too and had to contend with Miller for alot of the game, which I thought he did well. Some of his heading was a bit up in the air, rather than away, but he didn't do much wrong. He'll get better with us as well, no doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Hooiveld looked no worse then Seaborne. Decently mobile, ok in the air, a little uncertain when under physical pressure but vvery decent. More importantly though I feel he has room to improve further... which is just as well as he needs to read runners in at the back post better. An ok start for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 read somewhere he was crap and kept heading it up in the air? Correct - straight up in the air on about 4 occasions. We looked a bit poor defensively. Forest were sh1t first half, but still managed two goals. We were a bit more resolute (perhaps lucky) second half, but no surprise given we'd completely changed our back line from the previous game, bar Fonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 That just was one of the resident WUMs who wasnt even at the match. If you mean me then yes I was. Itchen north block 4 row h to be precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 If you mean me then yes I was. Itchen north block 4 row h to be precise. Missed the pleasures of block 4 upper today- how was our resident piece of bait for the away contingent, the fat, slightly f**ked-looking lad who's a carer in the disabled area? Always steps up when there's a big game. Top lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Shocking - At fault for both goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Not the best game to judge him on (coming in to a makeshift defence), but have to say I'm not sure he's better than what we've got already. Certainly no better than Seabourne. Hopefully he''ll settle in and develop, but I think middle of the defence will be a weak spot for us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Good solid debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 ah so many mixed responses...funny how people see the same game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eharty9 Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Shocking - At fault for both goals bit harsh mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 A bit off the pace but Miller and Derbyshire were such handfuls. Don't really get people calling him shocking, Jose just as fault for goals as Jos, straight through the defence. Fox was very poor, minus the cross for Lambert's 3rd - hopefully Harding is back for B'ham. Cork at RB didn't really work so would like to see him back in CM next week, but I know that the changes were enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 No worse than Seaborne, which is to say he won a lot of headers without heading them anywhere useful and played some passes directly to the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was ok. It's hard for a CB to come into a defence which has another debutant and a player out of position. We did look nervy at the back, Fox seemed to give their players too much space down the flanks and hardly ever blocked a cross. They were good going forwards (second half especially) and players like Reid and Greening will always pick out the runners with good passes. Thought we missed Cork in the midfield. We lost too much possession there which put extra pressure on the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was ok. It's hard for a CB to come into a defence which has another debutant and a player out of position. We did look nervy at the back, Fox seemed to give their players too much space down the flanks and hardly ever blocked a cross. They were good going forwards (second half especially) and players like Reid and Greening will always pick out the runners with good passes. Thought we missed Cork in the midfield. We lost too much possession there which put extra pressure on the defence. Agree with all of that. I do understand it is his first game and of course he needs time, but he didn't look like much of an improvement over Seaborne which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Jos was fine today but interesting that the no5 shirt is still up for grabs (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 A bit off the pace but Miller and Derbyshire were such handfuls. Don't really get people calling him shocking, Jose just as fault for goals as Jos, straight through the defence. Fox was very poor, minus the cross for Lambert's 3rd - hopefully Harding is back for B'ham. Cork at RB didn't really work so would like to see him back in CM next week, but I know that the changes were enforced. This. I thought Fonte was at fault for the first goal - Miller seemed to push it too far forwards initially, thought Jose could have slid in to knab the ball but completely missed it, miller squared it and Derbyshire slotted it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Thought he did ok, not spectacular, but ok. I'm sure once he's had time to bed in he will be a capable replacement for Jaidi or Seaborne. Having said that I thought both he & Fox were at fault for both goals, but with 3/4 of the defence playing together for the first time, these things happen. He's not as good as Vidic (or Fonte) though. To be honest I was more concerned with Fox at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Jos did OK, probably not match fit so a few more games needed before anyone should judge him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 I thought both goals were through our right side, drawing the left side defenders across allowing them to overload us on the back post for tap ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Hooiveld looked no worse then Seaborne. Decently mobile, ok in the air, a little uncertain when under physical pressure but vvery decent. More importantly though I feel he has room to improve further... which is just as well as he needs to read runners in at the back post better. An ok start for him. I was at the game and that was completely what i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 From his Twitter: joshooiveld20 jos hooiveld The legs will defintaly feel it tomorrow, second half could have done better in some situations but the legs weren't listening anymore. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Thought he did OK today. Good on the ball and a positive start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was better than Cork and Fonte. Of course being fan favourites you can't critisise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was better than Cork and Fonte. Of course being fan favourites you can't critisise them. I think that is unfair. Cork was played out of position and I don't think he was better than Fonte at all tbh. In your world that means you will dismiss my opinion because he is a 'fan favourite.' In reality, Fonte was actually decent and I thought Jos was OK but dodgy at points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 He was better than Cork and Fonte. Of course being fan favourites you can't critisise them. Agreed - Jos was fine today. Cork was sometimes so out of position at RB it was unbelieveable as was Fox on the left and Fonte was at fault for the first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Agreed - Jos was fine today. Cork was sometimes so out of position at RB it was unbelieveable as was Fox on the left and Fonte was at fault for the first goal. Jos was better than Fonte? Really? Where were you sat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 I thought he was alright in the first half, and all over the place in the second. Very promising debut against an incredibly strong front line though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Shocking - At fault for both goals Agreed yes he was, I don't believe he will even feature over Martin next game. Distribution was appalling, Saints players didn't look like they wanted to pass to him. He didn't look at all comfortable on the ball, yes he was a big lump, won a few headers but a couple of times you would have thought his head was shaped liked a 50p piece. Quote me again if you like but bet he plays no more than another 3 times for Saints max and ****s off back to Celtic. The only very poor performance today. Bring back Jahidi . Anyone who thinks he did well was watching a different game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 I thought he did OK in the first half, seemed comfortable on the ball and dealt with Miller well. In the second half he seemed to be hesitant and gave away a couple of silly free kicks on the edge of the area. Not the easiest of things to do to come into completely new back 4 but for me overall he did well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 (edited) Jos was better than Fonte? Really? Where were you sat? Did I say he was better? No. What I was agreeing with is that sometimes fans favourites errors are glossed over and unfortunately with Jos it appears that some have been influenced on the basis of the opinion of Celtic fans. I prefer to make my own mind up. Edited 10 September, 2011 by Katalinic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Did I say he was better? No. shirleysfc said he was better than Cork and Fonte and you said agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Eeeek bring back Jaidi (soon) having got used to a big CB who heads the ball the way Jaidi does (ie back into the oppos half) I was shocked how awful Jos the boss was from his size I expected him to be good in the air. Got caught totally flat footed for both Forest goals (though Fontes lack of a challenge and kelvin's impression of a stone statue didn't help) Looks good with a ball at his feet very calm when in loads of space under no pressure. Not a great start IMO. Having said that one match in a make shift back four is to early to write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 shirleysfc said he was better than Cork and Fonte and you said agreed.[/quote I was agreeing with the comment that some fans favourites seem beyond criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 I thought he lost his man for their first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 to be fair the the guy - he was awful shame i had hoped he was the CB we were all hoping for... he was static, showed no pace and hardly won a header all afternoon hurry back danny seaborne and before any one moans - yes i was at the game and had perfect view of their 2 goals (i sit up high, level with the top of the 6 yard box) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 shirleysfc said he was better than Cork and Fonte and you said agreed.[/quote I was agreeing with the comment that some fans favourites seem beyond criticism. Well you can forgive me for thinking otherwise considering you quoted the entire post without bold bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 If he is no better then Seabourne then we should play DS, hes younger and has potential to develop into a better player and be a top championship defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 Well you can forgive me for thinking otherwise considering you quoted the entire post without bold bits. Apology accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2011 Share Posted 10 September, 2011 You make no sense and your quoting is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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