We made a bid for Sordell - Mirror

[Saint_clark]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Southampton-Watford-Marvin-Sordell-4million-January-bid-article796302.html

 

Nigel Adkins will make a £4million bid for Watford wonderkid Marvin Sordell in January.

Southampton boss Adkins is ready to table an improved offer for the England under-21 international when the transfer window re-opens.

Watford rejected a £3m bid from the Saints on deadline day and are determined to keep the 20-year-old striker at Vicarage Road.

But Adkins is set to make a renewed attempt to land the highly-rated Hornet in the New Year to boost Saints’s promotion challenge.

 

Sordell scored a spectacular goal for the England under-21s in the 4-1 thrashing of Israel on Monday night.

 

The mentioned goal (set up by Chamberlain) -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za29OmrxEMg

[The9]

Seems to have started well in a not-so-great team, kind of like Maynard actually, wouldn't be surprised if we'd bid for him and equally unshocked he didn't sign for us.

[Pilchards]

Always wondered why we never went for him in the first place as he is fast & raw.

The Mirror article does come across as bull**** because nobody knows that we will come back with an offer because I know Adkins would not of picked up the phone and told anyone.

[St Jim]

Apologies Saint_clark but I don't think any rumour in the Mirror is worth starting a thread on. They and the Daily Star have to have the worst record for journalism when it comes to informed rumours about player moves. I can not recall reading a Mirror rumour and it coming to fruitition.

 

That said (and without actuall seeing him play, just reading up on him and his stats), although over the past 2 seasons he's scored 1 in every three games, given he is only 20 he maybe a good shout for the future.

[Turkish]

/\ I can. Alex Chamberlain. Our itkers dismissed his move

To Arsenal as mischief making and bullish*t yet where is he now? Funny how a lot of people only believe the rumours they want to.

[whelk]

tis not worth much though as a rumour as any January action will be determined by the lads next 3 months and if shines then more people than us will be in for him and if poor would like to think that we would not pursue.

Stuipid time for rumours although i did here we may get Beckham:lol:

[bpsaint]

Under-21 "wonderkid" suggests to me that he's far more likely to sign for a Premiership team than us.

[Doctoroncall]

/\ I can. Alex Chamberlain. Our itkers dismissed his move

To Arsenal as mischief making and bullish*t yet where is he now? Funny how a lot of people only believe the rumours they want to.

 

And out of how many transfers did they print actually came off? Also, they started their Chamberlain transfer campaign end of last year.

 

The one thing I agree with is people do only want to believe the rumours they want to happen, that's human nature when you have no tangible evidence either way.

[trousers]

/\ I can. Alex Chamberlain. Our itkers dismissed his move

To Arsenal as mischief making and bullish*t yet where is he now? Funny how a lot of people only believe the rumours they want to.

 

I'll leave MLG the honour of posting the exact stats, but the Daily Fibber, sorry, Mirror, printed c.20 definitive articles over c.12 months saying that Chamberlain was on his way "imminently". They were right once in 20 attempts...

 

To coin a phrase...my broken kitchen clock was right more often than them during the "Chamberlain's off" saga...

[Foxstone]

Quite happy to get excited about this rumour - Has some serious potential this lad and seems to fit with our strategy of "buying them young and developing them"!

[Turkish]

I'll leave MLG the honour of posting the exact stats, but the Daily Fibber, sorry, Mirror, printed c.20 definitive articles over c.12 months saying that Chamberlain was on his way "imminently". They were right once in 20 attempts...

 

To coin a phrase...my broken kitchen clock was right more often than them during the "Chamberlain's off" saga...

 

No one put a time frame on it. Just a rumour that came true that was in the Mirror.

[Legod Third Coming]

Under-21 "wonderkid" suggests to me that he's far more likely to sign for a Premiership team than us.

 

Which by January we might be as good as

[Victor]

Always wondered why we never went for him in the first place as he is fast & raw.

The Mirror article does come across as bull**** because nobody knows that we will come back with an offer because I know Adkins would not of picked up the phone and told anyone.

 

"would not HAVE" for Christ's sake!

[NickG]

They get a lot wrong, like ox-c the previous window, good to be linked with good young players

[trousers]

No one put a time frame on it. Just a rumour that came true that was in the Mirror.

 

Indeed. I see on their weather forecast page they're predicting rain for sometime in September. I'm off to Ladbrokes. Back in 10.

[wild-saint]

Apologies Saint_clark but I don't think any rumour in the Mirror is worth starting a thread on. They and the Daily Star have to have the worst record for journalism when it comes to informed rumours about player moves. I can not recall reading a Mirror rumour and it coming to fruitition.

 

That said (and without actuall seeing him play, just reading up on him and his stats), although over the past 2 seasons he's scored 1 in every three games, given he is only 20 he maybe a good shout for the future.

 

its a damn site more interesting than half the threads on this board to be fair. Let face it some of the threads like "how many goals do you think we will score in the whole campaign thread" genius i tell you.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

They get a lot wrong, like ox-c the previous window, good to be linked with good young players

 

They were right in the end though, weren't they, as he ended up at Arsenal. Also, I'm sure I read that NC said (at the fans dinner) that we believed Oxo had had a secret medical at Arsenal during January, which considered reporting to the FA - maybe this is what the Mirror were reacting to?

 

Think Sordell would be a cracking signing, if there's anything in this, maybe even more so than Rodriguez.

[Hatch]

Would should sign more players with Dell in their name,.

[Victor]

Would should sign more players with Dell in their name,.

 

We would should if we could.

[Pilchards]

We would should if we could.

 

Why not have something interesting to add to the forum rather than correct what everyone is saying?

[The9]

Why not have something interesting to add to the forum rather than correct what everyone is saying?

 

I think you underestimate the amount of annoyance some people get from other people failing to use their own language appropriately.

[trousers]

They were right in the end though' date=' weren't they, as he ended up at Arsenal. Also, I'm sure I read that NC said (at the fans dinner) that we believed Oxo had had a secret medical at Arsenal during January, which considered reporting to the FA - maybe this is what the Mirror were reacting to?[/quote']

 

I don't think anyone is disputing that they ultimately 'got it right'. Rather, people are pointing out that it was hardly the revelation of the century. Most papers predicted Chamberlain would be on his way, with Arsenal as one of the obvious favourites, as soon as he started turning heads in League One. The perception is that the Mirror kept banging on about it month after month whereas the other papers mentioned it every now and then. Hardly a 'scoop'.

 

Anyway...onwards and upwards....

[Windmill Arm 2]

/\ I can. Alex Chamberlain. Our itkers dismissed his move

To Arsenal as mischief making and bullish*t yet where is he now? Funny how a lot of people only believe the rumours they want to.

Harldy a fair comparison, it was obvious to any reasonably sensible human being that Oxo was destined for a big club, and that Arsenal fitted the bill.

[Charlie Wayman]

This is becoming farcical. The player is obviously quite good so why would he want to come here when PL teams will be in for him if he has a tremendous first half season especially as he is now a very high profile young lad playing for Pearce's XI.

 

One gets fed up reading this sort of nonsense when we know Saints will inevitably bottle any bid deal where competition from other bigger clubs are involved. Leicester beat us in the transfer market and on the pitch. Let's face it our track record for completing deals of this quality is rubbish - we just don't have or won't spend the dosh - just like Gooners in fact who go on to win Arsene-all!

[The Kraken]

This is becoming farcical. The player is obviously quite good so why would he want to come here when PL teams will be in for him if he has a tremendous first half season especially as he is now a very high profile young lad playing for Pearce's XI.

 

One gets fed up reading this sort of nonsense when we know Saints will inevitably bottle any bid deal where competition from other bigger clubs are involved. Leicester beat us in the transfer market and on the pitch. Let's face it our track record for completing deals of this quality is rubbish - we just don't have or won't spend the dosh - just like Gooners in fact who go on to win Arsene-all!

 

Yeah, our track record for signing highly rated England U21 internationals like Jack Cork should indicate we just shouldn't bother trying to sign anyone.

 

Adkins out!

[The9]

This is becoming farcical. The player is obviously quite good so why would he want to come here when PL teams will be in for him if he has a tremendous first half season especially as he is now a very high profile young lad playing for Pearce's XI.

 

One gets fed up reading this sort of nonsense when we know Saints will inevitably bottle any bid deal where competition from other bigger clubs are involved. Leicester beat us in the transfer market and on the pitch. Let's face it our track record for completing deals of this quality is rubbish - we just don't have or won't spend the dosh - just like Gooners in fact who go on to win Arsene-all!

 

Erm, well, we spent most of the last two seasons signing players from the same division (albeit League One) who could have signed for teams in the League above, and Cork at the very least could have played in the Prem if he'd wanted. Leicester and West Ham are spending loads but are both behind us in the table, and Arsenal just spent £12m on some kid who'd never played above League One, £8m on Gervinho, £10m on Arteta, £8m on Mertesacker and £6.5m on Andre Santos. So if that's "won't spend the dosh" I'd be glad of it.

[Saint_clark]

Apologies Saint_clark but I don't think any rumour in the Mirror is worth starting a thread on. They and the Daily Star have to have the worst record for journalism when it comes to informed rumours about player moves. I can not recall reading a Mirror rumour and it coming to fruitition.

 

That said (and without actuall seeing him play, just reading up on him and his stats), although over the past 2 seasons he's scored 1 in every three games, given he is only 20 he maybe a good shout for the future.

 

It's just a topic to discuss. Seeing as the transfer window is shut and there are no longer dedicated threads to rumours, where would you suggest we talk about this one?

[Jack]

In the sun as well, not that it makes any difference

Edited 9 September, 2011 by Jack
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[sambosa75]

Would be a great signing if true. Reminds me of Welbeck who looks to come on leaps and bounds in the last few months.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Wonder whether we could tempt them with a loan followed by a permy move in January? They added 2 strikers around deadline day + have Iwelumo & Deeney already. Perhaps we could offer £3999999 as a loan fee with a permanent deal for £1 in January?!

[Ludwig]

Wonder whether we could tempt them with a loan followed by a permy move in January? They added 2 strikers around deadline day + have Iwelumo & Deeney already. Perhaps we could offer £3999999 as a loan fee with a permanent deal for £1 in January?!

 

Unlikely, seeing as their other strikers are either crap (for them)/unproven (Garner) and Sordell is literally their only vaguely reliable attacking outlet at the moment. Maybe in January, but most likely not on loan with a view to a perm.

[Turkish]

Harldy a fair comparison, it was obvious to any reasonably sensible human being that Oxo was destined for a big club, and that Arsenal fitted the bill.

 

Not to some on here. He was staying with us. Many quoted on here he'd be with us for at least another season. He still would have been, if it wasn't for all the lies in the Mirror.

[sfc4prem]

Wasn't it the mirror that printed the deal for Fox and Rodriguez?

[Chez]

The Mirror get 21.5% of it's football transfer stories/rumours correct. FACT.

[Rasiak-9-]

He's the sort of player I could see us signing next summer if we're promoted to the Premiership but I'd be surprised if we got him in January unless we were right up there in the top two.

[Wade Garrett]

If we are happy to pay £4m for him, why didn't we offer that on deadline day?

[Thedelldays]

If we are happy to pay £4m for him, why didn't we offer that on deadline day?

maybe we did...

[Saint Garrett]

If we are happy to pay £4m for him, why didn't we offer that on deadline day?

 

Exactly what I was thinking. If we wanted him, why did we only offer 3m for him? If they rejected it and we were happy to pay more, we wasnt that then offered ? Seems a strange story to come out a week after the transfer window closes.

[SNSUN]

"Nigel Adkins will make a £4million bid for Watford wonderkid Marvin Sordell in January.

Southampton boss Adkins is ready to table an improved offer for the England under-21 international when the transfer window re-opens.

Watford rejected a £3m bid from the Saints on deadline day and are determined to keep the 20-year-old striker at Vicarage Road.

But Adkins is set to make a renewed attempt to land the highly-rated Hornet in the New Year to boost Saints’s promotion challenge."

 

I like the last bit...

[Fan The Flames]

http://www.footballtransferleague.co.uk/newspaper_statistics.aspx

 

theres the stats

[View From The Top]

It's the striker buying process that I find the most perplexing. We've clearly bid for both up & coming players like this nipper but players such as Ebanks-Blake and Sharpe who are older and established.

Edited 9 September, 2011 by View From The Top

[Dalek2003]

This is becoming farcical. The player is obviously quite good so why would he want to come here when PL teams will be in for him if he has a tremendous first half season especially as he is now a very high profile young lad playing for Pearce's XI.

 

One gets fed up reading this sort of nonsense when we know Saints will inevitably bottle any bid deal where competition from other bigger clubs are involved. Leicester beat us in the transfer market and on the pitch. Let's face it our track record for completing deals of this quality is rubbish - we just don't have or won't spend the dosh - just like Gooners in fact who go on to win Arsene-all!

 

This makes perfect sense to me based on the evidence of this summer.

[View From The Top]

This makes perfect sense to me based on the evidence of this summer.

 

Hardly a surprise as you are both WUM c**ts.

[Ball boy]

I have watched him at Watford a number of times as I live near there. He's a very inconsistent player at the moment but should develop into a good player given time. Not sure how much he would add to our short term plans though.

[Gingeletiss]

This makes perfect sense to me based on the evidence of this summer.

 

Shock horror....one WUM agreeing with another WUM, whatever next!

[Professor]

Football Transfer Rumours Shock. Authorative (?) web site has No Transfer Rumours for SFC since 31 Aug!

[Saint_clark]

It's the striker buying process that I find the most perplexing. We've clearly bid for both up & coming players like this nipper but players such as Ebanks-Blake and Sharpe who are older and established.

 

Was the Ebanks-Blake one ever confirmed?

[Foxstone]

Sorry to bump this one up the rankings again, but for those of you who attended Saturday's match how did this lad play ? Did he look like the £4 million "wonderkid" the Mirror quoted?

 

I see he was substituted on the hour mark...

[S-Clarke]

He didn't look great, but we did defend well against him. He clearly has pace and a bit of power, but struggled to impose himself in the game in all honesty.

 

He'll have better games, that's for sure. Still wouldn't put him in the £4m category.

[Tokyo-Saint]

The Watford fans said it was his worse game of the season. Said he looked disinterested. I must admit I thought he was a bit crap and didn't really cause us any problems. It must be disheartening though, to chase the ball back and forth as the defenders stand in triangles passing it around in 30 degree heat. Then when your team do get possession they just lump it into space for you to chase. Even my dogs would get bored of chasing the ball around all afternoon.