alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Would absolutely love it if the biannual Brand England shirt-selling w*nk fest for the likes of Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand, Shrek and their numpty Italian boss comes off the rails thanks to a lad who learnt his trade playing for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flickjax Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 weirdo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 weirdo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Why ? I so little give a f*ck for England that I feel more affinitiy for a young player who hasnt played for us for more than 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Why ? I so little give a f*ck for England that I feel more affinitiy for a young player who hasnt played for us for more than 3 years. An affinity for a player who ****ed off as quickly as he could, only playing one year for the Saints. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 An affinity for a player who ****ed off as quickly as he could, only playing one year for the Saints. Yep. I think you have forgotten just how embarassing England were in South Africa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.tom.clancy Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Weirdo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Why ? I so little give a f*ck for England that I feel more affinitiy for a young player who hasnt played for us for more than 3 years. If you hate England so much why don't you **** off and live somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 If you hate England so much why don't you **** off and live somewhere else? He does TBF, I am willing to give Capello another chance, but only if he lets the kids play and tells Lampard to do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I agree with all the above posts accept Alpines Weird is right why is he so depressing even though have not lived in England for 12 years I am still English and would want them to beat that small Principality (not even a real country) by as many goals as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I am English, and support England in the rugby and cricket, but I will not support the current egotistical self-fulfilling football set up. I fail to understand what is weird about that, or worthy of being abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 thats like not liking some Saints players and hoping the lose to the blue **** down the road because of them weirdo is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I am English, and support England in the rugby and cricket, but I will not support the current egotistical self-fulfilling football set up. I fail to understand what is weird about that, or worthy of being abused. ..of which Bale is just as much a part of as any other player. Sorry but this comes down to supporting England against another nation (albeit a home one). If you profess to support England in other sports but not football then that is indeed weird. If you were not expecting any abuse after your original post then that is even weirder. I think your attitude is probably purely down to frustration at following England over the years, we have seen plenty of evidence at your impatience when supporting Saints. Thankfully the 20,000+ who go to games aren't as fickle. Thanks Smirking, I am fully aware Alps lives abroad, this was my feeble attempt at a little humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Other countires must p1ss themselves laughing at how so many people in England decide we "hate" our football team because we didn't make it to the quarter finals in a world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 INternational football is utter dirge these days. The sooner they scrap it the better imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 What a very strange thread. But deciding to hate your own footballing country just because they're not as good as you'd like them to be is truly weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Another coping mechanism alpine_saint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 What a very strange thread. But deciding to hate your own footballing country just because they're not as good as you'd like them to be is truly weird. Where did I say I hate them ? I said I will not support the team in its current state. A team of money-grubbing brand-obsessed f*ckwits EM2012 will be more fun to watch without the hang-wrining, jingoism, journalistic coverage and potential crowd trouble that an English participation would bring. And I would enjoy it if a Saints player would bring this course of events around. It has nothing to do with it being Wales at all; didnt even think of the home nation rivallry at all. I would enjoy it equally if it were a Saints player from Burkina Faso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I read the thread title and thought "been there, done that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I read the thread title and thought "been there, done that". Now that is really weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Although I don't entirely agree with the OP. I see where you're coming from. Hattrick from Bale and England to win 4-3 would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Where did I say I hate them ? I said I will not support the team in its current state. A team of money-grubbing brand-obsessed f*ckwits EM2012 will be more fun to watch without the hang-wrining, jingoism, journalistic coverage and potential crowd trouble that an English participation would bring. And I would enjoy it if a Saints player would bring this course of events around. It has nothing to do with it being Wales at all; didnt even think of the home nation rivallry at all. I would enjoy it equally if it were a Saints player from Burkina Faso. So would you feel different had we won the WC in 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO5 4BW Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I don't hate the England team as such, like Alpine I support them in the cricket, but I too would love to see Bale do really well tonight. Why? Because for quite a few years most of the regulars in the England team have been people it'd be really hard to feel any affinity for at all. Spoilt greedy slack-jawed to55ers, who got their ultimate comeupppance in South Africa, watching the Germans run rings round them In fairness things may be changing as the younger players come in. Once the rest of the 'Golden Generation' ar5eholes are out of the equation maybe I'll feel differently. Until then I'd love to see someone like Bale - brought up well, by SFC, do well. I hate Tottenham - but I loved seeing him skin Inter last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I thought I was a bitter man, but in the Alpine steaks I don't even register. You can not support another country, because you don't like the setup / state of English football, surely?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 money-grubbing brand-obsessed f*ckwits? Welcome to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Would absolutely love it if the biannual Brand England shirt-selling w*nk fest for the likes of Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand, Shrek and their numpty Italian boss comes off the rails thanks to a lad who learnt his trade playing for Saints. For once I can agree with you Alpine. I'd love Bale to have a good game v. England...maybe even score..! With all our resources ...England should be able to beat a side (who can't get into the top 100 FIFA countries) ..with a reserve side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Where did I say I hate them ? I said I will not support the team in its current state. A team of money-grubbing brand-obsessed f*ckwits EM2012 will be more fun to watch without the hang-wrining, jingoism, journalistic coverage and potential crowd trouble that an English participation would bring. And I would enjoy it if a Saints player would bring this course of events around. It has nothing to do with it being Wales at all; didnt even think of the home nation rivallry at all. I would enjoy it equally if it were a Saints player from Burkina Faso. I don't wish to be facetious, however, if Saints were a top four side and were paying silly wages to players, would you then turn your back on them? Also, I've recently done an investigation into the press and coverage of international football featuring England. The whole jingoism thing really is something of the past, for many, many reasons. One of those reasons for example is because this is a multicultural nation and our papers would alienate their own audiences if they were to carry on with that attitude. So I take issue with that statement. I can kind of sympathise with what you're saying however, I don't agree entirely with how the England team is operated, I don't like Capello all that much, I don't like the F.A all that much, and I'm finding it difficult to get excited about the English national football team in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I hope the team that represents my country wins. I don't care who's playing for them, at the end of the day they're out there representing everyone in this great country of ours. Come On England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 (edited) I don't hate the England team as such, like Alpine I support them in the cricket, but I too would love to see Bale do really well tonight. Why? Because for quite a few years most of the regulars in the England team have been people it'd be really hard to feel any affinity for at all. Spoilt greedy slack-jawed to55ers, who got their ultimate comeupppance in South Africa, watching the Germans run rings round them In fairness things may be changing as the younger players come in. Once the rest of the 'Golden Generation' ar5eholes are out of the equation maybe I'll feel differently. Until then I'd love to see someone like Bale - brought up well, by SFC, do well. I hate Tottenham - but I loved seeing him skin Inter last season Why does everyone assume we're any dfferent from other nations when it comes to having big ego's and money driven players? Do you think the German squad is full of lovely down to earth lads or do you think that they also have some big headed tossers amongst them? I think most probably. The reason we lost and why we continue to lose against good sides on the european stage is because we're simply not techically good enough and the players play against an unjustified expectation which they simply can't fulfill Edited 6 September, 2011 by Dig Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I can kind of sympathise with what you're saying however, I don't agree entirely with how the England team is operated, I don't like Capello all that much, I don't like the F.A all that much, and I'm finding it difficult to get excited about the English national football team in general. That's all true. But to go to the extent of wishing your national team to lose, simply because they have a few big-heads in the team and haven't progressed beyond the 1/4 finals of a major tournament in 15 years, is slightly bizarre IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Alpine, would you like to see Walcott have a good game tonight or just Bale ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I've never understood this.. We all support Saints so we're not used to being a big club or winning things. So what's the difference with England? They're still ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Personally I hope Theo plays a blinder and gets another England hat-trick. I am wayyy too patriotic to ever want England to lose at anything. Plus Poland and Ukraine are right on my doorstep and I know someone who lives very close to the stadium in Kiev who could get me tickets if we play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 (edited) I always want England to win. I Like Gareth Bale as you do and I'm proud he was a Saint but with your comments you are just exposing how irascible you are (again). As for that "numpty Italian boss": Fabio Capello was manager of one of the most beautiful and stylish football teams OF ALL TIME ( The Milan team that beat Barca 4-0 in the 1993 final of the Champions League ) - so he can make teams play cosmic football, with the right players, and you must surely be aware of his awesome CV as a manager all over europe let alone the fact that he played 32 times for Italy and even scored the winner in a 1-0 win for Italy at Wembley back in 1973 ( at which i was lucky enough to be present). He is NOT a Numpty. He's made mistakes ~ but in football management terms he is already in the Hall of Legends as a senior member and to call him a numpty is nothing short of ignorant. England are currently ranked number 4 in the World with him despite common agreement that, Rooney aside, our squad is fairly average and has been for a decade or more. Alex Ferguson, The Special One, Guardiola or whoever else you like would struggle to get England to higher than 4th in the world with this squad, the player pool and the ridiculous expectations from the media - and people like you. Edited 6 September, 2011 by Giordano sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 That's all true. But to go to the extent of wishing your national team to lose, simply because they have a few big-heads in the team and haven't progressed beyond the 1/4 finals of a major tournament in 15 years, is slightly bizarre IMO. To hope they lose is a bit much, I wouldn't ever go that far. As for the quarter finals thing, I'm in a minority that thinks Sven did a decent job. Look at where England were going before he came in. We were in danger of not qualifying for tournaments at all, or if we got there, not getting out of the group stages. It makes three quarter-final appearances look good by comparison to before him and directly after him. Granted, you should improve and perhaps we should have gone further in 2006 after quarter final exits at World Cup 2002 and Euro 2004, but with Keegan and Hoddle before him we exited in the group stages, with McLaren we didn't even qualify. With Capello we've qualified in style and then bombed out having not deserved to get out of the group stages. And by the way, for all the fuss this country makes about changing FIFA, the FA is in need of total change before we go making demands of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 #35 posts responding to the most obvious trolling post of 2011. (make that #36 - wierdo!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Where did I say I hate them ? I said I will not support the team in its current state. A team of money-grubbing brand-obsessed f*ckwits EM2012 will be more fun to watch without the hang-wrining, jingoism, journalistic coverage and potential crowd trouble that an English participation would bring. And I would enjoy it if a Saints player would bring this course of events around. It has nothing to do with it being Wales at all; didnt even think of the home nation rivallry at all. I would enjoy it equally if it were a Saints player from Burkina Faso. Like Chamberlain you mean? So I guess you're not interested if he does well for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I have to say I kind of agree with Alps on this one, weird or not. I perhaps wouldn't go as far to say that I want England to lose, just that I am so apathetic towards the England team. I have been ever since there have been no Saints players involved. I see just international games as boring encounters that mean I have to wait another week before Saints play again. I must admit I didn't even there were two England games, and only found out about the Friday game on Sunday (having now TV or internet in my new house yet doesn't help with this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 To hope they lose is a bit much, I wouldn't ever go that far. As for the quarter finals thing, I'm in a minority that thinks Sven did a decent job. Look at where England were going before he came in. We were in danger of not qualifying for tournaments at all, or if we got there, not getting out of the group stages. It makes three quarter-final appearances look good by comparison to before him and directly after him. Granted, you should improve and perhaps we should have gone further in 2006 after quarter final exits at World Cup 2002 and Euro 2004, but with Keegan and Hoddle before him we exited in the group stages, with McLaren we didn't even qualify. With Capello we've qualified in style and then bombed out having not deserved to get out of the group stages. And by the way, for all the fuss this country makes about changing FIFA, the FA is in need of total change before we go making demands of others. I agree. Despite what your average Daily Star reader will tell you, we are not a good enough side to be favourites for a major footballing championship, and haven't been since Euro 96, and even then only because we were at Wembley for every game. We're pretty good, from top 3 or 4 downwards, but reaching the quarter finals of a world cup should be seen as a par, and therefore commendable, achievenment. Anything else beyond that is a bonus and classed as real success. As for the FA and FIFA, don't even get me started down that road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I agree with Alps in that I get more enjoyment out of seeing players like Bale do well than England. However the fact that Theo is on our side means I would prefer an England win even if it means I get to smug overpaid c*nts like Rooney and Terry smiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 And by the way, for all the fuss this country makes about changing FIFA, the FA is in need of total change before we go making demands of others. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Alpine, would you like to see Walcott have a good game tonight or just Bale ?? Yes, I think so. But for some reason Bale sticks in my mind about tonight; maybe I have a thing about the underdogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Why does everyone assume we're any dfferent from other nations when it comes to having big ego's and money driven players? Do you think the German squad is full of lovely down to earth lads or do you think that they also have some big headed tossers amongst them? I think most probably. The reason we lost and why we continue to lose against good sides on the european stage is because we're simply not techically good enough and the players play against an unjustified expectation which they simply can't fulfill I think you'll find the dynamic in German football is completely different and that yes, the young players are definitely more down-to-earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO5 4BW Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Why does everyone assume we're any dfferent from other nations when it comes to having big ego's and money driven players? Do you think the German squad is full of lovely down to earth lads or do you think that they also have some big headed tossers amongst them? I think most probably. The reason we lost and why we continue to lose against good sides on the european stage is because we're simply not techically good enough and the players play against an unjustified expectation which they simply can't fulfill You're right. I hate Ronaldo, Tevez etc. I'd probably hate some of the Germans if I knew more about them. It's just that the England players are er, closer to home! Incidentally though - do we think that SFC bring up their young players better than other clubs? Shearer, Le Tiss, Walcott, Bale etc all seem decent enough chaps and have largely avoided the arrogant to55erishness of the Cole, Terry, Rooneys etc. Only kn0b I can think of was Dennis Wise - and we got rid of him quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 maybe I have a thing about the underdogs. maybe you just have a thing for Bale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 (edited) I said I will not support the team in its current state. A team of money-grubbing brand-obsessed f*ckwits. So lets get this right because Walcott plays for England he is a money grabbing brand obsessed F*ckwit! but Bale because he plays for Wales is an alright fine upstanding ex Saint who we should all support tonight in the faint hope they f**k MY COUNTRY OVER. Then for the next fifty years we can have it rammed down our throats, do you remember when sh*te! Excuse me for wanting MY COUNTRY to tear them a new one tonight so we can progress to the finals. Will we win it when we get there? I'd say we have very little chance, doesn't stop me supporting them. COME ON ENGLAND which ever sport it is in. Edited 6 September, 2011 by Under Weststand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 Excuse me for wanting MY COUNTRY to smash them tonight surely you mean 'tear them a new one' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 surely you mean 'tear them a new one' There edited is that better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I am English, and support England in the rugby and cricket, but I will not support the current egotistical self-fulfilling football set up. I fail to understand what is weird about that, or worthy of being abused. I do see your point. 10 years ago i wouldn't have dreamed of missing an England game, friday i went out for a meal with the misuss and some friends, tonight am i so uninterested i am seriously thinking of going to the gym instead of watching it. I just feel no affinity towards players like Cole, Terry, Lampard and co. England will probably win and qualify tonight and then the w*nk fest will follow up until next summer about how we can win it, our team of world class players etc as it does everytime we win a group containing world greats like Montenegro and Bulgaria, before we get embarassed by a team which can play football yet again. I dont want England to fail but it has happened so often after so much hype it has become expected and dare i say it, almost amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 September, 2011 Share Posted 6 September, 2011 I thought I was a bitter man, but in the Alpine steaks I don't even register. You can not support another country, because you don't like the setup / state of English football, surely?!Why not? I'm not saying that I would support another team against England, but take this to a lesser degree and equate it to an English club team playing in the European Champions League. Should we support the English club, or is that weird if we do not? Because for myself, if it is Manchester United playing anybody else, I am always cheering on the other team. Naturally, I would draw the line if they were playing the Skates, but it then I would end up supporting neither team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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