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Completely untrue, my mate who this happend to:

 

 

 

 

 

was literally walking past trying to avoid getting caught up in it, he is not the violent or mouthy type & that night he wasn't even drinking as he was driving his mates around, he was literally in the wrong place at the wrong time. So to say "if your not looking for trouble you won't get any" is quite ridiculous & untrue.

 

My point was it doesn't happen very often.

 

You could concievably have this happen to you on the way home from work.

 

Bouncers do tend to be utter tw*ts though

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A good many footballers, like lots of other young men, are looking for fun and places to meet girls so nightclubs will always be on the agenda. Players may also have more to spend than the average bloke on a night out so that both the fame and the money will make them stand out. You do wonder if clubs give players enough advice on how to enjoy a night out without attracting too much attention and how to walk away from confrontation.

 

Agree. Certainly the Big Clubs with players on silly wages like 200k a week do organise for financial advice to be given vis-a-vis pensions and putting some aside for when they are no longer playing. I would hope that clubs do offer advice on getting wound up in a confrontation by bell-ends trying to get under the skin of a local celeb.

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Whatever the circumstances, this is a tradegy for Dan Seabourne and his family. Right now, we should just be wishing him a complete and speedy recovery, nothing else matters right now. We should also hope that the truth is discovered in due course and that appropriate measures are taken then. Any other discussion should happen elsewhere and at another time.

 

Come on Dan, I want to see you back in that defence just as soon as you can make it.

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Come on Dan, I want to see you back in that defence just as soon as you can make it.

 

Absolutely. I may not rate him as the best of defenders but I want to see him back proving me wrong as swiftly as he can. Imagine the cheer that'll go around St Mary's when he comes back..... I can't wait for it.

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I was shocked when I heard it on Radio 1 today. Past form shows that after any sort of head injury to a sportsperson, their natural fitness is higher than that of a regular person, the rate of recovery is phenominal.

 

I hope we can see him back in a Saints shirt before the season is out.

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My heart and prayers go to him and his family. Anyone who advocates violence is scum (including those posters on the Barney/millwall threads), life is so precious yet so cheap to some idiots.

 

Indeed. But the vast majority of the violent c*nts you're referring too are basically losers who grind a McJob or some equally degrading sh*t at Tesco or wherever whilst still living with their parents in a council flat. They have no life and thus have nothing to lose.

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Long time lurker here i'm afraid, but felt the need to post on this thread, hope its ok by admin.

 

Just to say thoughts are with his family, and i really hope he makes a full recovery and is available for selection for you as soon as possible.

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Long time lurker here i'm afraid, but felt the need to post on this thread, hope its ok by admin.

 

Just to say thoughts are with his family, and i really hope he makes a full recovery and is available for selection for you as soon as possible.

 

Why would it be a problem? All credit to you, some things in life are bigger then petty rivalry. We all want Dan to recover.

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I can't believe some people are having a pop at a twenty-something going out on the lash! Pot/kettle.

 

I can. You become a professional football player, you make certain sacrifices in life.

 

But as others have said, no doubt there is another time and place for that discussion. Wishing DS a full and speedy recovery. Whether he was being obnoxious or not, does not give anyone the right to beat him up and possibly stomp his head into the pavement.

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Completely untrue, my mate who this happend to:

 

 

True, you can literally look at someone the "wrong way" in this day and age and get into trouble without even realising you did anything "wrong" in the first place. It's unlucky but can happen to even the nicest people who haven't a bad bone in them on a night out in any city center. I get the feeling people who say otherwise were in their 20's in the 70's & 80's. Hope Seaborne get's well soon.

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Indeed. But the vast majority of the violent c*nts you're referring too are basically losers who grind a McJob or some equally degrading sh*t at Tesco or wherever whilst still living with their parents in a council flat. They have no life and thus have nothing to lose.

 

Absolute crap.

 

Hope Seaborne makes a full recovery. His poor family will be going through hell at the moment.

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Dan is a year older than me. I can assure you that if I was in his position then I would certainly be going out when I had the chance and probably trying to entice a few young ladies. I'm sure that 90% of people on here would be doing the same so it's a bit rich to criticize him. Something obviously went on inside Junk, something went on outside Junk but the most important thing is that Dan makes a full recovery.

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I've just had a browse of the Exeter City site,9 pages of best wishes for a former player and this lead me to the following links:

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9230000.Former_club_s_best_wishes_for_assaulted_defender/

 

and a Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Get-well-soon-Dan-Seaborne/267291373296250

 

Thoughts remain with him and his family.Hope he pulls through and we see him back playing in the not too distant.

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yeah, that's what I thought. Someone will no doubt come along saying 'hard job, blah blah, ok to give people a slap' etc, but there's never any justification for throwing someone out onto their skull. Sometimesthings happen by mistake, sometimes people fall, slip, etc, but there isn't any decent reason save honest self defence in the face of serious violence that shoud ever propel people out in a fashion that happens far too often. I've known a number of door staff, and some have been great, but equally there are a large number of idiotic meatheads amongst them,who, much like in the army or police, only do it to get power-trips or because they think it'll justify violence and somehow make up for their tiny penis.

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Indeed. But the vast majority of the violent c*nts you're referring too are basically losers who grind a McJob or some equally degrading sh*t at Tesco or wherever whilst still living with their parents in a council flat. They have no life and thus have nothing to lose.

 

Oi. I work at ASDA and live with my parents. Mind you, I'm 18. Still, stop generalising please.

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Oi. I work at ASDA and live with my parents. Mind you, I'm 18. Still, stop generalising please.

 

Nothing wrong with that...you're 18 ffs. I personally grind a tour guiding job over the summer and live at home with my rents when off term at uni as I just turned 21.

 

But I can't be arsed to be PC when it comes to generalising the usual character of the typical crop of 25-35 year old hooligans and violent thugs.

 

You don't see doctors, lawyers, bankers, businessmen or anyone with half a brain trying to kick the **** out of people on a saturday night do you? Course not, they've got too much **** to lose.

 

As I say I can't be f*cked to spare the feelings of the type of scum that almost killed our Danny.

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Sorry Rasiak 9 it doesn't work like that. I grew up in the street that people round the corner wouldn't let thier kid's play near, what do you think happened when we strayed into the respectable part of the village, that's it we got a hiding by future doctors, lawyers, bankers, businessmen or anyone with half a brain if we were on our own.

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Have I missed this or has anybody called for a fan boycott of Junk?

 

I never was one for nightclubs in my youth, but to call a nightclub 'Junk' probably sums it up nicely. Frankly, I will be glad to see this place go out of business and the proprietor lose his shirt so if that means informing our fan-base not to attend then the better.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/03/southampton-footballer-dan-seaborne-left-fighting-for-life-after-3am-nightclub-attack-115875-23391976/

 

I see the Mirror have jumped in with both feet, looks like their 'insider' is from the Echo comments.

 

Two sides to every story but all you can do in times like these is wish the fella well and hope Dan makes a full recovery.

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That article is shocking from the Mirror, complete rumours and hearsay. We do not know what fully happened and probably never will. Where did this 'googling' himself etc thing come from? Really is very unnessecary to doubt his character when he is lying extremely unwell in hospital, but nothing stands in the way of a good story !!!

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Can I just say that while this is obviously very emotional for some people, to point the finger at who did what when most clearly dont know is not so good at this time. While I do have sympathy for DS getting hurt, none of us know exactly what happened (and I'm sure I'll get slated for this). But it may be that DS was asked to leave, refused, got physical with other person, other person pushed back in self defence and DS fell and hit his head. I'm not saying that is what happened and I dont really like Junk, but none of us here were there and if the bouncers were almost innocent parties caught on the wrong end of an accident it would be pretty poor to have a lot of finger pointing at them (I know most are meat heads but how many of us have just pushed someone back after they even barged into us, it doesn't take a lot for that to go wrong if that person falls onto their head....). All I'm saying is that we shouldnt pass judgment until people are either charged or we are given the facts and just concentrate on wishing DS a speedy recovery

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In my experience bouncers love a challenge. Being a big bloke (typical bouncer build, I'd make a good doorman) I've had **** off them in the past and now if I go clubbing I tend not to drink and try to keep a low profile. Few years back I was deliberately tripped on a flight of stairs by a bouncer and then forcibly thrown (took four of them) out on the street. Cuts and bruises and a big bump on the back of my skull, I was lucky. Same night a lad was killed in Basingstoke by bouncers. There but for the grace of god and all that.

I don't know what the solution is but I feel it's a vicious circle. Reminds me in some ways of going away in the 80s with all the fences and aggro. Violence breeds violence. Being a 40-something I remember when only clubs had bouncers (e.g. the old bloke at Barbarellas) but then there wasn't the excessive mass drinking going on either.

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That article is shocking from the Mirror, complete rumours and hearsay. We do not know what fully happened and probably never will. Where did this 'googling' himself etc thing come from? Really is very unnessecary to doubt his character when he is lying extremely unwell in hospital, but nothing stands in the way of a good story !!!

 

From here:

Not nice news although I've learnt Dan did not help himself according to many.

 

He was seen lording it in the club, saying how he earns more than anyone else in the club, googling himself to girls proving he’s a footballer (when most didn’t recognize him), being absolutely obnoxious, bugging women, slapped a doorman/got warned/did it again, got hit. You can't go around slapping doormen and expect no action. Obviously some others took it further. Not condoning anyone being assaulted or hospitalized but he obviously didn’t help himself with that behaviour. Silly boy! Cortese will hit the roof at more bad press. He won’t tolerate it.

 

It's a shame some of the arrogance football and earning big money breeds. Let's hope he recovers soon as no-one deserves to be hospitalised.

 

I would just like to welcome the Mirror Journo to the forum he is obvioulsly viewing. PS Your reporting is schoolboy at best.........

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I don't want to appear churlish or unduly critical of the club at a time like this, and perhaps this thread is not the right place to raise this but, unless I've missed it I haven't noticed any form of 'human' comment from the club on Dan Seaborne's plight.

 

I've seen lots of quotes from Exeter. Just like our own fans, theirs seem to have been moved. Even Steve Perryman their DoF has commented on what a lovely lad Dan is.

 

But I've not noticed anything from the club outside of the statement on the OS and individual player's tweets. Can't help thinking it's unusual that OUR player gets injured and the journalists run with quotes from his ex-club.

 

Perhaps the club has been advised to not make any comment? Perhaps it's as simple as key people being on holiday. Perhaps it's come in an interview that I haven't heard or seen documented. Anyone?

 

Just feels like someone at the club should have spoken about their feelings on a human level. No agenda. Not looking to criticise the club. Just pointing out that it appears odd.

 

Here's to a speedy recovery and one that sees him able to play again.

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