MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Exeter City are aware... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9230000.Former_club_s_best_wishes_for_assaulted_defender/ If that's not the Echo phoning for a quote I don't know what is. That made me laugh a lot when I was on work experience at the Echo. They did literally pick up the phone, ring any link they had to a story and get talking about it, constantly making notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 That made me laugh a lot when I was on work experience at the Echo. They did literally pick up the phone, ring any link they had to a story and get talking about it, constantly making notes. It's also the source of one of the rifts between the paper and Cortese, who is believed to be behind a very strongly worded solicitor's letter received by the Echo following a phone call to the MALI offices to get comments from their staff in the immediate aftermath of Markus' death. Anyway, that's for another time and place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Tattsyrup Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 All the best Dan, my thoughts are with you & I hope you make a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Exeter release statement: http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10436~2439664,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Shocking news. Thoughts go out to everyone involved. Hope he makes a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Best wishes to Dan, this is horrific and he doesn't seem the sort of player to be giving it the big "I am" either. London Road from memory is covered by CCTV so if someone has done something stupid they are going to find it difficult to cover their tracks if an incident has occured on the pavement outside the club. About time the political parties, licencees and the other authorities got together, put their differences aside and started taking serious measures to curb the alcohol-fuelled anti-social behaviour that seems to blight the city. I'm only 33 but you would not find me out in Southampton City Centre after 8pm at night, it's too unsafe. Don't get me wrong, I'm a CAMRA member and like a beer but action needs to be taken. Poor journalism by the Echo but then when has it been any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 If it is, as it does seem, a head injury then they won't know if he's in the clear for at least a couple of days due to internal brain swelling. At the moment he'll still be in the 'wait and see' phase of the injury. Hope he turns out OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Not nice news although I've learnt Dan did not help himself according to many. He was seen lording it in the club, saying how he earns more than anyone else in the club, googling himself to girls proving he’s a footballer (when most didn’t recognize him), being absolutely obnoxious, bugging women, slapped a doorman/got warned/did it again, got hit. You can't go around slapping doormen and expect no action. Obviously some others took it further. Not condoning anyone being assaulted or hospitalized but he obviously didn’t help himself with that behaviour. Silly boy! Cortese will hit the roof at more bad press. He won’t tolerate it. It's a shame some of the arrogance football and earning big money breeds. Let's hope he recovers soon as no-one deserves to be hospitalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Exeter release statement: http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10436~2439664,00.html Definitely time for our OS to put out at least a short holding statement of sympathy. Best wishes to Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Not nice news although I've learnt Dan did not help himself according to many. He was seen lording it in the club, saying how he earns more than anyone else in the club, googling himself to girls proving he’s a footballer (when most didn’t recognize him), being absolutely obnoxious, bugging women, slapped a doorman/got warned/did it again, got hit. You can't go around slapping doormen and expect no action. Obviously some others took it further. Not condoning anyone being assaulted or hospitalized but he obviously didn’t help himself with that behaviour. Silly boy! Cortese will hit the roof at more bad press. He won’t tolerate it. It's a shame some of the arrogance football and earning big money breeds. Let's hope he recovers soon as no-one deserves to be hospitalised. Would all this be from your reliable source Mr. Bull****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Not nice news although I've learnt Dan did not help himself according to many. He was seen lording it in the club, saying how he earns more than anyone else in the club, googling himself to girls proving he’s a footballer (when most didn’t recognize him), being absolutely obnoxious, bugging women, slapped a doorman/got warned/did it again, got hit. You can't go around slapping doormen and expect no action. Obviously some others took it further. Not condoning anyone being assaulted or hospitalized but he obviously didn’t help himself with that behaviour. Silly boy! Cortese will hit the roof at more bad press. He won’t tolerate it. It's a shame some of the arrogance football and earning big money breeds. Let's hope he recovers soon as no-one deserves to be hospitalised. If thats true then the police may take a lesser view on the action outside the club. Cant see someone slapping a doorman once and being alowed to stick around though. There should be plenty of witnesses though so truth should come out and be dealt with well as its in the public eye so much already. Will wait and see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 And where did you hear this ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 True or otherwise, whilst it's not too soon to discuss general scenarios about players socialising, I do think it's a bit too early to be apportioning blame via unverified sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Whilst obviously wishing the best for Dan and his family first and foremost, I agree with FF... why, after the Barnard incident, players insist on frequenting night-clubs in city centres. I think in this day and age with wages what they are, any aspiring professional should keep well away and the club should enforce that bann and it should be in their contract. No-one is suggesting that professional footballers shouldn't go out, but there are plenty of ways of having a "social life" that don't involve being in a nightclub at 2am in the morning. That said, probably a debate for another thread on another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 And where did you hear this ?? Obviously been reading the Echo comments & taking as gospel ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Not nice news although I've learnt Dan did not help himself according to many. He was seen lording it in the club, saying how he earns more than anyone else in the club, googling himself to girls proving he’s a footballer (when most didn’t recognize him), being absolutely obnoxious, bugging women, slapped a doorman/got warned/did it again, got hit. You can't go around slapping doormen and expect no action. Obviously some others took it further. Not condoning anyone being assaulted or hospitalized but he obviously didn’t help himself with that behaviour. Silly boy! Cortese will hit the roof at more bad press. He won’t tolerate it. It's a shame some of the arrogance football and earning big money breeds. Let's hope he recovers soon as no-one deserves to be hospitalised. If that really is the case, i can't say its much of a suprise when you generally think of footballers out on the tiles. you would not find me out in Southampton City Centre after 8pm at night, it's too unsafe. ???? Thoughts of John Mcenroe. Yes there's afew dicks out there but it's not difficult to stay out of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 dailyecho Southern Daily Echo UPDATE: Doctors have confirmed Dan Seabourne is "stable" and in the Wessex Neurological centre. Adkins and a #saintsfc doctor are with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Anyone who has ever been on a night out will tell you that 99% of bouncers are complete ****s. Get well soon Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 dailyecho Southern Daily Echo UPDATE: Doctors have confirmed Dan Seabourne is "stable" and in the Wessex Neurological centre. Adkins and a #saintsfc doctor are with him. That's great news if he stable now. Let's just hope there's no long term neurological damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 As someone involved in Motorcycle racing we had a situation earlier this season where one of our riders was injured. At first things looked pretty bad but then it became clear that it was life threatening. Things can chasnge quickly, therefore the club should not and will not release a statement until there is something positive to say. Otherwise it is nothing more than we have on here (Speculation). We all know DS was involved in an incident so there is nothing more that the club can say. When our rider had his accident you will "lock the doors" to the outside to protect the family and party. Also any updates can only really come from them and the doctors will be reluctant to tell them anything until they know themselves. Fotunatly these guys are fitter than most of us so their chances of recovery are greater, and recovery times quicker than most of us. But hope he has speedy recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Obviously been reading the Echo comments & taking as gospel ! It would be interesting to see how many of the comments from previous threads have been proven true or otherwise... my favourite comments are usually from chavs connected to people involved who always post about how the people making comments don't know those involved, like you can't make a judgement based on their actions alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Thoughts of John Mcenroe. Yes there's afew dicks out there but it's not difficult to stay out of trouble. I'm sure it's quite difficult to stay away from people who want to come up to you and have a go whether you want them to or not, especially if you're remotely famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatchamsaint Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Get Well Soon Dan - Really hope you can make a full recovery from these Injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 That's great news if he stable now. Let's just hope there's no long term neurological damage. A definite improvement on "serious and stable" and "potentially life threatening" earlier, but a long way to go until he's in the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Wishing Dan a full and speedy recovery. Hope to see him back playing at SMS as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Regardless of what he was 'allegedly' doing inside the club, what happened outside is disgraceful and whoever is responsible should be punished accordingly. Wider debate about footballers hitting the town is probably not for now, but my personal view is they should be more selective about where they go out. If i was on footballers money, i wouldnt be going to places like Junk, or the White House. Apologies if i missed it but i wonder if any other Saints players were with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Can only echo the sentiments of others really. Thoughts with Dan and his family. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Things like this certainly put football into perspective! +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Fotunatly these guys are fitter than most of us so their chances of recovery are greater, and recovery times quicker than most of us. But hope he has speedy recovery Defininetly true for physical injuries, not sure this is necessarily the case for neurological injuries though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 2 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Whether Dan was misbehaving or not. The job of the "Bouncer" is security, and should have removed him without assaulting him. Unfortunately bouncers tend to be looking for any excuse to throw their weight around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 dailyecho Southern Daily Echo UPDATE: Doctors have confirmed Dan Seabourne is "stable" and in the Wessex Neurological centre. Adkins and a #saintsfc doctor are with him. As this is a non-football related injury, it is surprising but nice to see that Adkins is at the hospital. My respect for the gaffer continues to grow through his actions - a very decent man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 That made me laugh a lot when I was on work experience at the Echo. They did literally pick up the phone, ring any link they had to a story and get talking about it, constantly making notes. So, reporting then? damn those reporters reporting on things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbenny Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Whether Dan was misbehaving or not. The job of the "Bouncer" is security, and should have removed him without assaulting him. Unfortunately bouncers tend to be looking for any excuse to throw their weight around. That is because in the main they are xxxxx. Regardless of whther they were involved in Dan's attack I hate them full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Whilst obviously wishing the best for Dan and his family first and foremost, I agree with FF... No-one is suggesting that professional footballers shouldn't go out, but there are plenty of ways of having a "social life" that don't involve being in a nightclub at 2am in the morning. That said, probably a debate for another thread on another day. Well quite, and first thoughts are that I'm sure we all wish Dan a speedy recovery. And even if he was behaving as badly as another poster suggests, he should still be able to be out and about without being hassled, let alone attacked. Having said all that, it still amazes me that any professional footballer is out on the razzle late at night during the season. I know it is 8 days till our next game, but does anyone think a top track and field athlete would be out in a night club after 2am when in training, even if their next race was 8 days away? Pro footballers are supposed to be athletes at peak of fitness, watching their scientifically planned diet, sleeping, resting, training, etc appropriately. I know a top distance runner for example, who is now planning her training,and meals and even sleep times, virtually to the minute for the next year or so, as she prepares for the Olympics. Living a quieter life than maybe most young men of that age, with that much money, would choose, is a price footballers should pay in return for all that income. Fans have a right to expect them to be at fit as they can be. They can go on the razzle when they retire on more money than most of us can even dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Whether Dan was misbehaving or not. The job of the "Bouncer" is security, and should have removed him without assaulting him. Unfortunately bouncers tend to be looking for any excuse to throw their weight around. Knee jerk reaction would make most think the bouncers were being more old school and out of order. But for ballance it could equally have been that DS was being thrown out against his will and fighting back, not knowing how he ended up on the floor of course but any fall resulting in his head being smacked on the floor could cause serious injury. Without knowing the facts I personally would lean more towards the doormen not doing their job properly but its worth keeping an open mind till more comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 You have your opinion mockles so unles you were there you do not have a scooby of what went on just third hand loose gossip. Get well Dan the team needs you. Also There tends to be a few hot heads employed in the world of Bouncers. Not my favourite species I was man handled and thrown out of wetherspoons in Cardiff for taking photos of our fans prior to the FA cup final against arse I was at the top of stairs said it was for health and safety reasons. got thrown out after 1 pint and one of them hit me on the side of the head as they threw me out with my long term arsenal friend Knunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 I hope it's not as serious as it seems from reading posts on here. Get well soon Dan. F/cking bouncers are a law unto themselves. Were they foreign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Passed the tapes outside the club earlier before I read the story. Blood's still on the pavement - quite a lot of it. Get well soon Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbster Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Well quite, and first thoughts are that I'm sure we all wish Dan a speedy recovery. And even if he was behaving as badly as another poster suggests, he should still be able to be out and about without being hassled, let alone attacked. Having said all that, it still amazes me that any professional footballer is out on the razzle late at night during the season. I know it is 8 days till our next game, but does anyone think a top track and field athlete would be out in a night club after 2am when in training, even if their next race was 8 days away? Pro footballers are supposed to be athletes at peak of fitness, watching their scientifically planned diet, sleeping, resting, training, etc appropriately. I know a top distance runner for example, who is now planning her training,and meals and even sleep times, virtually to the minute for the next year or so, as she prepares for the Olympics. Living a quieter life than maybe most young men of that age, with that much money, would choose, is a price footballers should pay in return for all that income. Fans have a right to expect them to be at fit as they can be. They can go on the razzle when they retire on more money than most of us can even dream of. 24 YEAR OLD MAN IN GOING OUT AND HAVING A FEW BEERS SHOCKER. Get a grip, absolutely clueless. Because hes a footballer he cant go out for 9 months of the year? One night on the beers 8 days before his next game isnt going to effect his performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 heard the bad news from a mate as i was looking on the OS at the pics of Dan at the open training session yesterday. my thoughts are with Dan & his family. get well soon lad. nice to read that Adkins is at the hospital with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 I have jsut seen the cho page. The player has been at Saints since January 2010, after being signed for a fee in the region of £250,000 from Exeter. Earlier this week Saints completed the signing of another centre half - Celtic defender Jos Hooiveld, 28. What has the signing of JOS got to do with this story. Very poor journalisim by the echo . I they trying toinsuate Dan might die or nevr play football again but is okay we have a replacement Tossers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 (edited) 24 YEAR OLD MAN IN GOING OUT AND HAVING A FEW BEERS SHOCKER. Get a grip, absolutely clueless. Because hes a footballer he cant go out for 9 months of the year? One night on the beers 8 days before his next game isnt going to effect his performance Having a different opinion to you = "absolutely clueless" ? Hmmm....like you say...."get a grip".... Sigh Edited 2 September, 2011 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Ken Tone why is it you assume that a player goes out has to be on the booze. I have been out before on a night with Franny and Ken Monkhou they certainly didnt drink while they were there. Mind you I did see a croatian international preparing for his countries match this weekend drinking a pint of lager poolside of the Hotel they were at Dan would not have been on the lash as you suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 This is terrible for the lad. Serious head injuries for a centre back could mean that his career is over. I just hope there is no brain damage and any bone damage eventually repairs and he can get back to playing in the fullness of time. May God be with you Dan. My sentiments exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Terrible for the lad. Something similar (head injury from a fall) happened to a mate of mine in Bournemouth 3 months ago & for a while they thought he might not survive. He now has some movement in his right side & is hoping for the left to respond to physio. The reason i mention it is that we should expect a very long period of recovery for him. Best if luck Dan!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 24 YEAR OLD MAN IN GOING OUT AND HAVING A FEW BEERS SHOCKER. Get a grip, absolutely clueless. Because hes a footballer he cant go out for 9 months of the year? One night on the beers 8 days before his next game isnt going to effect his performance I think this one night on the beers could indeed affect his performance for some time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 (edited) 24 YEAR OLD MAN IN GOING OUT AND HAVING A FEW BEERS SHOCKER. Get a grip, absolutely clueless. Because hes a footballer he cant go out for 9 months of the year? One night on the beers 8 days before his next game isnt going to effect his performance Yes, a 'night on the beers', if indeed he was drinking which we don't know, only 8 days before a game will affect his performance. Has the fact that clubs employ an army of nutritionists, physios, etc, passed you by? They do so because fitness, health, nutrition, sleep patterns, all matter. Presumably you think players needn't even bother training till a day or two before a game? Why do we even bother with a pre-season programme I wonder? That's weeks before a game. Edited 2 September, 2011 by Ken Tone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Just for the record, I've Googled effects of alcohol on athletes, and even the worst case scenario indicates that rehydration will naturally occur within a week - the argument then becomes about whether the effects on athletic training in the 48 hours after the alcohol is consumed affect the performance due to not being able to train to the max. Frankly at that point there are so many variables about training methods and recovery that it's likely to be impossible to prove cause and effect. So, 9 days before a match may directly affect training for 48 hours, and indirectly affect peak performance after that, but it's difficult to prove. This article notes the 1 week rehydration http://www.nutritioncheckup.com/docs/Alcohol%20and%20Athletic%20Performance.pdf That, of course, is assuming alcohol is involved at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 Awful thing to happen, but what was he doing out at 3am? Drowning his sorrows after realising he's lost his place in the team? There is always one!! Get well soon Dan, he is aloud to go out you know, probably given today off, or a few days!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 I think the arguement of 'players going out on the lash' can be saved for a different day/thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjay7 Posted 2 September, 2011 Share Posted 2 September, 2011 get well soon dan !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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