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Golden Balls

Golden Balls

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Wow! Get well soon Danny! Sounds like he should be ok. Hopefully will still be able to play football.

 

I've been the victim of bouncers (although they have taken that bit out now) who just decided it was me they had a problem with and set upon me. 3 of them. I was lucky as I took quite a few head shots but no serious damage. Took them to court, one got community service, one was never identified and the other one got away with it.

 

I don't agree with the opinion the players shouldn't be allowed to go out into city centre clubs. They are intitled to a social life as long as its not before a game etc. I would expect them to have better taste than Junk though. That place is shocking!!

CitySaint

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Get Well soon, truly awful news. Would like to wait until the OS comment before looking at the official details etc, can't really trust the Echo these days. I hope he makes a full recovery to life and football. Junk is an absolute hole, why do people feel the need to create such damage on a night out?

sussexsaint

sussexsaint

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My first thought when the initial reports said he was rushed to surgery were very grim indeed. Head injuries get rushed to theatre to evacuate clots from the brain to release pressure.

 

If this is the case then survival may include lasting neurological problems.

 

Keeping everything crossed for him and his folks

swannymere

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Good luck Dan with the recovery, and i'd like to Echo a previous poster's sentiments, how about a few Saints fans turning up outside Junk and having a peaceful protest to encourage people not to go in, as soon as these businesses realise they are responsible for the door staff's behaviour it might improve. You would have thought they would have learnt their lesson after what happened to Sir Griff.

Bailey

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Can only echo the sentiments of others really.

 

Thoughts with Dan and his family.

 

Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

 

Things like this certainly put football into perspective!

Saint_Ash

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Really hope he comes through with no after affects, if drunk a simple push can cause serious damage if your can't get your hands up to stop your head crashing on the pavement.

 

I assume the club haven't reported on this yet as they want the full facts before blurting any echo reported rubbish. I assume sibley will be the one who first mentions it from the club

Appy

Appy

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Really hope he comes through with no after affects, if drunk a simple push can cause serious damage if your can't get your hands up to stop your head crashing on the pavement.

 

I assume the club haven't reported on this yet as they want the full facts before blurting any echo reported rubbish. I assume sibley will be the one who first mentions it from the club

 

Remember Sibley saying he now had a couple of days off, i think that will now be cut short.

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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Guardian for those not read it

Two men, aged 35 and 29, have been arrested in connection with the incident, a police spokesman confirmed. Hampshire Police have also encouraged anyone who was in the nightclub on Thursday night, or anyone who was on London Road and witnessed what happened, to come forward.

The spokesman said: "Investigating officers are now trying to establish the circumstances that led to the man sustaining his injuries and although they have identified a number of witnesses, they are appealing for others to come forward."

 

Police Statement made

The9

The9

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Really hope he comes through with no after affects, if drunk a simple push can cause serious damage if your can't get your hands up to stop your head crashing on the pavement.

 

I assume the club haven't reported on this yet as they want the full facts before blurting any echo reported rubbish. I assume sibley will be the one who first mentions it from the club

 

As I mentioned, De Ridder's Facebook has a link to the Echo info. I can't read whatever language it's posted in (guessing it's Flemish) but it appears to be something about best wishes to his family.

 

"in gedachte bij Dan en zijn familie :(" actually : https://www.facebook.com/pages/Steve-De-Ridder/269235015466

 

Just ran in through translator, it basically means "in mind of" i.e. "thinking of..."

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Baj

Baj

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As I mentioned, De Ridder's Facebook has a link to the Echo info. I can't read whatever language it's posted in (guessing it's Flemish) but it appears to be something about best wishes to his family.

 

"in gedachte bij Dan en zijn familie :(" actually : https://www.facebook.com/pages/Steve-De-Ridder/269235015466

 

Just ran in through translator, it basically means "in mind of" i.e. "thinking of..."

 

Yeah, pretty much. It says "my thoughts are with Dan and his family"

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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My first thoughts are with Dan Seaborne and I sincerely hope he makes a full recovery.

My 2nd thought are why, after the Barnard incident, players insist on frequenting night-clubs in city centres.

I think in this day and age with wages what they are, any aspiring professional should keep well away and the club should enforce that bann and it should be in their contract.

My 3rd thought was the Echo were incredibly insensitive with their reporting on this.

 

I agree with 2 of your points but you can't expect young men to not go out to clubs for the best part of 15 years of their life.

The9

The9

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Is there any evidence it was definitely bouncers?

 

Only based on the early speculation from the Echo article before it was revealed that it was Seaborne who had sustained the injuries and rewritten at least once, as far as I can tell.

revolution saint

revolution saint

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Good luck Dan with the recovery, and i'd like to Echo a previous poster's sentiments, how about a few Saints fans turning up outside Junk and having a peaceful protest to encourage people not to go in, as soon as these businesses realise they are responsible for the door staff's behaviour it might improve. You would have thought they would have learnt their lesson after what happened to Sir Griff.

 

I don't really think this is the place for this but it might be a good idea to hold fire until we know some details. It's important to also remember that in Gary's (Sir Griff) case there was no blame attached to the bouncer - it was an accident.

The9

The9

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I agree with 2 of your points but you can't expect young men to not go out to clubs for the best part of 15 years of their life.

 

Given that the young men in question are at the top of their highly-paid profession, I think it's more a matter of if they DO go out (and sport often involves a great degree of personal sacrifice) them ensuring that where they do go is not the sort of place this kind of thing is likely to happen.

scotty

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Christ almighty, what is this city coming to? Best of luck to Dan for a full recovery. And I hope the echo are hanging their heads in shame. Again.

saintjay77

saintjay77

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As others have already said, thoughts with Dan and his family. There should be CCTV available from somewhere I would of thought. Hope he makes a speedy recovery and the situation is dealt with ASAP.

for_heaven's_Saint

for_heaven's_Saint

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Given that the young men in question are at the top of their highly-paid profession, I think it's more a matter of if they DO go out (and sport often involves a great degree of personal sacrifice) them ensuring that where they do go is not the sort of place this kind of thing is likely to happen.

 

Easy to say but it could happen anywhere. Used to go to Junk a lot while I was at college and never saw much trouble then other places you'd expect to be safe I've seen it kick off.

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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As others have already said, thoughts with Dan and his family. There should be CCTV available from somewhere I would of thought. Hope he makes a speedy recovery and the situation is dealt with ASAP.

 

If it happened directly outside the club then there will almost certainly be CCTV footage available.

rallyboy

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today is not the day for knee jerk reactions - we have very few facts.

 

All we know for sure is that one of our players is seriously ill and if initial medical reports are accurate his immediate battle is firstly about survival, and then he could face a very lengthy recovery to everyday life - football is a long way down the list of priorities, where it should be.

 

Wishing him and his family well.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Easy to say but it could happen anywhere. Used to go to Junk a lot while I was at college and never saw much trouble then other places you'd expect to be safe I've seen it kick off.

 

I would say that Junk has a bit of a reputation as a place which attracts the scummier individuals from Southampton. Of course it can happen anywhere but Junk really is a sh*thole. Anyone that's really sad news, I hope it isn't as serious as it is being made out.

sussexsaint

sussexsaint

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today is not the day for knee jerk reactions - we have very few facts.

 

All we know for sure is that one of our players is seriously ill and if initial medical reports are accurate his immediate battle is firstly about survival, and then he could face a very lengthy recovery to everyday life - football is a long way down the list of priorities, where it should be.

 

Wishing him and his family well.

 

 

Absolutely IF he had surgery this morning. He will still be being ventilated. The change in status from SGH could just mean that for now the bleeding has stopped and the immediate threat to life has abated.

 

As you say , very little facts to go by and if as serious as reported will be a long long road to recovery

The9

The9

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Easy to say but it could happen anywhere. Used to go to Junk a lot while I was at college and never saw much trouble then other places you'd expect to be safe I've seen it kick off.

 

It can, which is why there's the opinion that the only way to stay out of trouble is not to go anywhere.

Crowds

Crowds

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Get well soon Dan!!

 

Some of the bouncers up that end of town are animals particularly the polish ones. Saw an innocent guy get thrown against a shop window so hard i thought he was going through....

 

Used to go to Junk on occasions but it seems to be full of 50cent wanna he's and the Polish!!

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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Given that the young men in question are at the top of their highly-paid profession, I think it's more a matter of if they DO go out (and sport often involves a great degree of personal sacrifice) them ensuring that where they do go is not the sort of place this kind of thing is likely to happen.

 

Yea I know what you're saying but these types of things can happen anywhere where there is booze flowing and are often very random and unpredictable. I understand that professional sportsmen need to have discipline and self control but anyone, anywhere should be able to go to a club and expect not to end up in intensive care, professional sportsman or not

monosaint

monosaint

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Get well soon Dan!!

 

Some of the bouncers up that end of town are animals particularly the polish ones. Saw an innocent guy get thrown against a shop window so hard i thought he was going through....

 

Used to go to Junk on occasions but it seems to be full of 50cent wanna he's and the Polish!!

 

I would take that back if I were you.. You are now generalising and making prejudiced remarks. No place on this forum for comments like that. Given that you used to go what does that make you?

The9

The9

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Yea I know what you're saying but these types of things can happen anywhere where there is booze flowing and are often very random and unpredictable. I understand that professional sportsmen need to have discipline and self control but anyone, anywhere should be able to go to a club and expect not to end up in intensive care, professional sportsman or not

 

Can't argue with that as a sentiment, but unfortunately life's not like that. People who are potential targets (for whatever reason) need to take precautions against contact with the kind of people who make trouble for them. That may include not putting themselves in any of these kind of situations. It's a shame, but unfortunately that's the reality. I'm not suggesting this is in any way Dan Seaborne's fault of course.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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Awful news. Just awful. Find out who's responsible and cut off their dangly bit.

 

Get well soon Dan, we need you back, fit and well.

The9

The9

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Let's not make this about safety in modern society etc. Incidents happen sometimes when booze is flowing and there always has been and always has been a minority of idiots, bouncers or not, looking for trouble. It's not a common thing and that's why it's shocking news. Taking shocking news as a common trend is nonsensical.

 

The only thing that matters is Dan recovering completely and being OK. People's debates on bouncers and football can really wait.

 

Of course we want him to be alright, and it is an isolated incident, but I don't see why there should be an embargo on discussing the general causes and principles, even without the specifics of this... "case". It's been 3 hours since I heard and the shock has given way to trying to reason how this could happen.

saintjay77

saintjay77

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If it happened directly outside the club then there will almost certainly be CCTV footage available.

 

Yeah pretty sure that will be on camera. Think the Police are looking for anyone that might know what went on inside to figure out if what went on outside was in any way justified. Its easy to jump to conclusions of bouncers being heavy handed but on route out the one being ejected could of just as much been out of order. These sorts of things are not easy to prove one way or another. Hopefully being a high profile person in trouble will mean the police deal with it correctly. Doormen down this way used to only turn up for work for a scrap. knuckle dusters and gum shields in their pocket ready to go. much different now and doormen tend to spot trouble long before it kicks off and move in to defuse situations before anyone gets hurt and allow punters to continue with having a good night. Torquay nights out are not quite the same as a night out back home though. Incendents like this tend to drag doormen into much more of a prevention tac tic which can only be a good thing. Its a shame serious damage to anyone has to happen before things start to change though.

Spudders

Spudders

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Easy to say but it could happen anywhere.

Was going to say exactly the same thing.

Also we shouldn’t have to put up with a society were people feel the need to hide away in case of trouble. The focus should be on (1) correct punishment for those who cause it (2) people being raised in the correct manner so that they don’t feel the need to cause trouble in the first place. (Personally I think society is too far gone for old fashion values, beliefs & respect to be upheld these days, but I guess that a whole other thread!)

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