SB Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 After 2 long months the transfer window is finally closed, and yes we've signed some quality players, however I am now left questioning the ambition or the target of this club. With the sale of Oxo and with money already in the club plus a strong league position we were in a very good position to sign a quality forward, those that say DC, Lambert and Barnard( who we might not have much longer) will score the goals are the deluded ones, not the people questioning the lack of signings. And no I'm not saying we should have broken the bank or splashed the cash, however those complaining of people questioning no purchase of a striker are properly the same old farts that complain about the price of tea in costa coffee, and if they think we have enough upfront.. Well then THEY are the deluded muppets. Hopefully will sign someone on loan, however I'm very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Good post. But you are posting it in the wrong place mate. THis isn't the forum for realism. Unless you say we need a 45k stadium and are on an unstoppable march to the champions league you are being negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Do we need another thread like this? Connolly and Lambert are doing a good job of scoring goals so far aren't they? Not sure how that makes anyone deluded. We could do with another option as we will get injuries and suspensions, but you say we shouldn't breoken the bank or splashed the cash for one. Well the targets we had were ambitious and would have required us to do that - Who would you have signed? Again - there is no point in signing a make-way player, just because you couldn't get the first choice. If you can't get the first choice, don't bother or get a loan deal sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 19 goals in 7 games so far. Deluded muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 If there's someone available within our price range and wage structure who wants to sign for us, then all well and good. Personally, I'm glad to see the end of signing people for the sake of it, or because they look good on paper. These people (Adkin's, Reed and Cortese) are professional's who know what they are doing. They'll have a plan B lined up in case of an injury crisis,they'll be looking at loan players and targets for Jan constantly throughout the season. The issue for me is if Lambert gets injured, because I think we can cover anything happeneing to DC. I've no doubt that the people at the club are aware of this and have loan options in mind if this should happen. There was no point adding to the squad with players that are no better than we have, who we will be stuck with.I'm glad those days are over............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 If there's someone available within our price range and wage structure who wants to sign for us, then all well and good. Personally, I'm glad to see the end of signing people for the sake of it, or because they look good on paper. These people (Adkin's, Reed and Cortese) are professional's who know what they are doing. They'll have a plan B lined up in case of an injury crisis,they'll be looking at loan players and targets for Jan constantly throughout the season. The issue for me is if Lambert gets injured, because I think we can cover anything happeneing to DC. I've no doubt that the people at the club are aware of this and have loan options in mind if this should happen. There was no point adding to the squad with players that are no better than we have, who we will be stuck with.I'm glad those days are over............ Exactly right. It took us years to get rid of all our premiership dead wood. Do we really need to fill our squad with that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I was disapointed we didnt sign a striker and I do think over the course of the season we need another option & competition for a place up front however I do think we will get a loan in or buy someone in Jan. I can also understand why we didnt get anybody as some of the prices were mental & we seem to be making sure we spend wisely on the right player for us that will enhance the team & the spirit not just pay mega bucks for some Billy Big Balls. We have started well, Cork looks like buy of the season Deridder looks quality & Fox ought to be a good signing at the moment I trust the club to do the right thing they don't lack ambition & we are heading the right way so I am on the Bus & enjoying the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 After 2 long months the transfer window is finally closed, and yes we've signed some quality players, however I am now left questioning the ambition or the target of this club. With the sale of Oxo and with money already in the club plus a strong league position we were in a very good position to sign a quality forward, those that say DC, Lambert and Barnard( who we might not have much longer) will score the goals are the deluded ones, not the people questioning the lack of signings. And no I'm not saying we should have broken the bank or splashed the cash, however those complaining of people questioning no purchase of a striker are properly the same old farts that complain about the price of tea in costa coffee, and if they think we have enough upfront.. Well then THEY are the deluded muppets. Hopefully will sign someone on loan, however I'm very disappointed.You are talking bollix, pick your teddy up and man the fook up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Another cringeworthy post. DC is currently top scorer in the championship, and is certainly no fluke as we've looked great in our first 5 games. I agree, another striker would certainly bolster our ranks (4 decent strikers are needed for any decent league campaign), but to say our current crop aren't up to the job is silly. I'd have been gutted had we spanked a shedload of cash on someone like Jay Rodriguez (who scored 10 championship goals last year), and am glad we've not been held to ransom over anyone. We do deals on our terms, it needs to be the right player at the right price. Just remember what happened last time we "threw money at it"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 After 2 long months the transfer window is finally closed, and yes we've signed some quality players, however I am now left questioning the ambition or the target of this club. With the sale of Oxo and with money already in the club plus a strong league position we were in a very good position to sign a quality forward, those that say DC, Lambert and Barnard( who we might not have much longer) will score the goals are the deluded ones, not the people questioning the lack of signings. And no I'm not saying we should have broken the bank or splashed the cash, however those complaining of people questioning no purchase of a striker are properly the same old farts that complain about the price of tea in costa coffee, and if they think we have enough upfront.. Well then THEY are the deluded muppets. Hopefully will sign someone on loan, however I'm very disappointed. Ugh? ..so what are you saying ?. You are disappointed that we didn't " waste " £6 million on Jay Rod...or, that we were wise not to ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Here we go again! No ambition blah blah blah. Total bloody rubbish. So we didn't get a striker in that would have cost mega bucks - big fookin deal. Move on for **** sake. We have decent enough strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 p.s - we've spent £4m in this window, and have tied down our key players to long term deals. That doesn't strike me as a club with no ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 p.s - we've spent £4m in this window, and have tied down our key players to long term deals. That doesn't strike me as a club with no ambition. So what happens if Barnard goes down and Connolly gets injured ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 p.s - we've spent £4m in this window, and have tied down our key players to long term deals. That doesn't strike me as a club with no ambition. Quite but like many I feel that a striker in the mould of Beckford/Maynard, along with a partner for Fonte, were the missing pieces of the promotion jigsaw. We got a CB and did our best in the striker dept so nowt to moan about from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 So what happens if Barnard goes down and Connolly gets injured ???? Saints bring in a striker on loan in the loan window that opens next week and closes in November. Crisis averted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Saints bring in a striker on loan in the loan window that opens next week and closes in November. Crisis averted. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 After 2 long months the transfer window is finally closed, and yes we've signed some quality players, however I am now left questioning the ambition or the target of this club. With the sale of Oxo and with money already in the club plus a strong league position we were in a very good position to sign a quality forward, those that say DC, Lambert and Barnard( who we might not have much longer) will score the goals are the deluded ones, not the people questioning the lack of signings. And no I'm not saying we should have broken the bank or splashed the cash, however those complaining of people questioning no purchase of a striker are properly the same old farts that complain about the price of tea in costa coffee, and if they think we have enough upfront.. Well then THEY are the deluded muppets. Hopefully will sign someone on loan, however I'm very disappointed. I believe the ambition is there, as we seem to have gone after some quality players in the right positions. My concern is our ability to execute the deals satisfactorily that has resulted in us missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 After 2 long months the transfer window is finally closed, and yes we've signed some quality players, however I am now left questioning the ambition or the target of this club. With the sale of Oxo and with money already in the club plus a strong league position we were in a very good position to sign a quality forward, those that say DC, Lambert and Barnard( who we might not have much longer) will score the goals are the deluded ones, not the people questioning the lack of signings. And no I'm not saying we should have broken the bank or splashed the cash, however those complaining of people questioning no purchase of a striker are properly the same old farts that complain about the price of tea in costa coffee, and if they think we have enough upfront.. Well then THEY are the deluded muppets. Hopefully will sign someone on loan, however I'm very disappointed. Sadly you are the deluded one as Lambert and Connolly have already shown that they will score goals at this level in spades - not actually a great surprise - and that it will produce results against good sides. More to the point ambition is about wanting to win not just about splashing money around. We have a team that works and we need to be careful about who comes in. They need to complement what we have as players and as people. Only one of the many who have been touted by their agents matched up to those needs and their current employer asked for a ridiculous price. We do need back-up to cover injuries it is true but not for 6 million. I don't think signing that striker immediately is currently that crucial but there will be more than a few Premier League youngsters available for loan either now or later if we have injury problems, understanding of having to wait their chance and yet anxious to impress. I would certainly rather get one of those then some of the journeymen and faded stars who have been talked about here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Exactly right. It took us years to get rid of all our premiership dead wood. Do we really need to fill our squad with that again? But some of our targets would have been a real asset, not dead wood. IMO had we acted decisively and with intent in June and early July we could have got quality signings in at CF and CB. We missed the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 We clearly went for strikers, but we didn't want to pay inflated prices. For me, it would have shown less ambition if we'd settled for a striker we didn't really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 But some of our targets would have been a real asset, not dead wood. IMO had we acted decisively and with intent in June and early July we could have got quality signings in at CF and CB. We missed the boat. Yes but do we spend over the odds and break our pay structure to get them? Tonight the prem teams name a 25 man squad I would assume plan B is to see the fall out from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I think it will give forte an opportunity to show what he can do, and i think he might surprise a few people. We're already one of the top scoring teams in the division so clearly our strike force are up to it making this lack of signings far from a crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 After 2 long months the transfer window is finally closed, and yes we've signed some quality players, however I am now left questioning the ambition or the target of this club. With the sale of Oxo and with money already in the club plus a strong league position we were in a very good position to sign a quality forward, those that say DC, Lambert and Barnard( who we might not have much longer) will score the goals are the deluded ones, not the people questioning the lack of signings. And no I'm not saying we should have broken the bank or splashed the cash, however those complaining of people questioning no purchase of a striker are properly the same old farts that complain about the price of tea in costa coffee, and if they think we have enough upfront.. Well then THEY are the deluded muppets. Hopefully will sign someone on loan, however I'm very disappointed. Great way to start a thread calling anyone who may not agree with your view muppets, old farts, deluded. How to win friends and influence people. Of course we need another striker, thats why the club has been trying to sign one all summer. But the deluded muppets are those who think we just go and buy any old striker however much they cost just for the sake of it. We aren't sesparately short of a striker right now, in fact anyone signing would not have got in the team, BUT we will need cover (and quite honestly we need to replace Forte who really isn't up to the job). People were talking about paying several millions for strikers who are not even any good, Rodrigues, possibly Maynard. That would have been bad business, the option is now available to bring in a young striker on loan from a Prem League club in the next week or so, in plenty of time for when they may be needed. PL Clubs have to name their 25 man squads end of this week, once that is done there will be quite a lot of players surplus to requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 But some of our targets would have been a real asset, not dead wood. IMO had we acted decisively and with intent in June and early July we could have got quality signings in at CF and CB. We missed the boat. Please explain how we could have got a quality CF in June apart from making offers, which we did? Sharp said no. Wolves said no about Ebanks-Blake. Jay Rod didn't want to move, which I respect. Bristol City wouldn't sell Maynard. Beckford kept his Premiership money at Leicester. So please, explain what else we could have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Not sure the purchase price has ever been a problem here. We could have got Jermaine Beckford I am sure, we have shown that we are prepared to offer top money for players. What we are absolutely not prepared to do is pay stupid salaries. About frickin time a football chairman has the balls to say enough is enough! We start paying 30k a week for a new player, we immediately have to up the salaries of half our players or else risk having division in our squad. All of a sudden we are back in the financial mire, losing hundreds of thousands of pounds a month. These players are just not worth the money they are paid, and if we miss out on promotion because we refused to cave in to ridiculous player demands, I for one will not be in the slightest bit upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 So what happens if Barnard goes down and Connolly gets injured ???? We use Guly in his preferred position, or De Ridder in a position he is comfortable in, or fast track Jake Sinclair or one of the other promising youngsters, or Forte maybe. Personally I think we do not necessarily rely on a top striker, we score throughout the team. Now if Adam gets a knock .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMidfieldGeneral Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 In Nigel We Trust!! For now.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Missed the boat? Strange thing to say when we've just broken the Club record with eleven consecutive wins, what is necessary to make these people happy? Think you've missed the bus mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 As happy and contented as I am at the world of Saints since the Liebherr takeover, I do think we need a striker, and whilst I know the club was trying to bring one in, their lack of doing so is a worry. I accept that people may have been playing hard ball, especially in terms of finance, but there must've been one striker somewhere that could have signed? Connolly, even though it seems his injury days are finally in the past, is 34 and won't last every game, Barnard's future is uncertain outside of football, and that leaves a lot of pressure on Lambert. Guly, Lallana, De Ridder and Forte are the alternate attacking options; they're great options to have but not out-and-out goalscorers. That said, saving our money until January could prove to be a very sensible option, when different or better players become available. It's our only failing of the window imo, unless the idea all along was to rely on the loan window (and there will be some VERY good loans available), or rely on the youth. We're fine at the moment, but I can't think that Barnard, Connolly and Lambert will carry us through the season. In Adkins I trust, but 3 strikers does concern me a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Please explain how we could have got a quality CF in June apart from making offers, which we did? Sharp said no. Wolves said no about Ebanks-Blake. Jay Rod didn't want to move, which I respect. Bristol City wouldn't sell Maynard. Beckford kept his Premiership money at Leicester. So please, explain what else we could have done. Exactly, at the end of the day its just one of those things. Think we'll get a loan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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