Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 fully intend to trawl up all the recent threads full of deluded positve people and show them how wrong they were at the end of the season when we finish about 17th. BTW at the start of 'transfer' thread yesterday I stated we wouldn't sign a bean and was proved right....perhaps i should let everyone know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 fully intend to trawl up all the recent threads full of deluded positve people and show them how wrong they were at the end of the season when we finish about 17th. BTW at the start of 'transfer' thread yesterday I stated we wouldn't sign a bean and was proved right....perhaps i should let everyone know. Sorry, I thought we signed a CB on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Sorry, I thought we signed a CB on loan. Oh sorry, that was what all the excitement was about ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 BTW at the start of 'transfer' thread yesterday I stated we wouldn't sign a bean and was proved right....perhaps i should let everyone know. This is the only one I could find and he is 1) a midfielder and 2) does not appear to be better than what we currently have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Bean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Oh sorry, that was what all the excitement was about ! Another post just to get a reaction by stating something that is 100% false. Do you never stop? The object of this page is to bring together a definitive document to cover the utter sadness of the Internet troll. Usually, a troll is nothing more than a passing nuisance, but, as this page will show, they can be a worry (stalkers). However, it is almost invariably an inadequate individual who can be safely ignored. This page will define the activity, and help with early recognition; once acknowledged, trolls can take up residence, and, like athlete's foot, can be difficult to shift. And when you've finished here, I recommend this fairly comprehensive guide to managing sad thirteen year olds loose on Mom's computer. What Is A Troll? The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group. Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows. Why do trolls do it? I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful. Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too. For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response. Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny? Remember that trolls are cowards; they'll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that's what they do!). Troll - Angler or Underbridge Dweller? How can troll posts be recognised? No Imagination - Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses' groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not. Pedantic in the Extreme - Many trolls' preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail - the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done. False Identity - Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own! Crossposting - Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that? Off-topic posting - Often genuine errors, but, if from an 'outsider' they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it's a troll post, you have denied it its reward. Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll - or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective. Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in missing the point. Thick or Sad - Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls - rigged to always say "above 150" Where are you likely to find trolls? Wherever they are tolerated - this means forums and networking sites that have loose or lazy moderation, and places like Usenet (newsgroups) where there may be no moderation at all. Where trolls are successful is a slightly different issue - some forums allow members to set an 'ignore' function, so they just do not see troll posts, after the first one, and some specialist forums are tightly focussed so that troll posts stick out a mile and are ignored - it's larger, more general forums that have issues, as it only takes a couple of members to be drawn in for the whole forum to suffer. They also thrive on 'opinion' sites, such as politics and religion, where feelings often run high anyway. But, again, only if moderation is weak. Usenet has a special problem, as moderation is impossible; for trolls to be controlled, requires committed members using their killfiles effectively, and avoiding accidental cross-posting - which is all too easy with many newsreading software setups. Some career trolls have set up their forums to exchange notes. These rarely thrive, as most trolls are not team players, and they simply fight among themselves. in other cases, they become centers for cyberbullying (see stalking); while that's a sad development, it makes it easier to have the sites closed. Who is at risk? Any newsgroup, bulletin board, forum or chatroom can attract trolls, but they don't have the brains to attack nuclear physicists, and they are drawn to the quick response where sex, religion and race are found; so politics is easy prey. One troll famously tried to infiltrate a mensa group; the results read like 100 trolls and one regular, it didn't have a chance - but it was stupid enough to persist until removed. When Should You Be Concerned? Usually, no, though fractured funny bones and occasional waves of nausea have been reported. When a troll become persistent and personal, you may need to consider the possibility that it has fermented into an Internet Stalker - equally pathetic, if not more so - but sometimes requiring weedkiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Wow, a c*ck-swinging p*ssing contest. Threads like this are started by w*nkers. Expecting a mod to lock extremely soon... I'd argue that threads started purely to focus on the negatives are started by ******s... You know the ones who never post after a win then reappear when we lose? Just saying is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Is that the brigade that were proved right? It's not by chance, but because people thought we'd get promoted... which we did. At the time of that thread no one new what would happen only what they felt would happen funnily enough some where right some where wrong.....do people need to drag it up months latter? Does it serve any purpose apart from cuasing more pointless bickering? Some on here find the best in every situation...... some the worst ......the best posters on here are the ones who weigh up each situation as it comes....rather than blind enthusiasm/wrist slashing no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 i.e. you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 This from the poster who squeals like a little kid if anyone posts anything resembling a personal attack on him. You make the point better than I ever could. Fat boy has a serious illness. We live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 i.e. you? Nope I'll admit to posting many times before enaging my brain........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Its a thin line between being confident and being complacent. But lets remember we are just fans, what we say has no effect on the way the club is run, but one thing fans are entitled to in return for their money is the right to express an opinion. This thread comes close to trying to supress opinions a few people don't want to hear. However well the club does it is a nonsense to say that it could not do better. Whether the ideas some of we fans throw into the pot would make it do any better is a different matter but when fans complain it is with one common objevctive - that we want the club to strive to always improve, so just what is the point of slagging off fellow Saints supporters? The fans will always want more and when we've won the European Championship with 11 full internationals in the side, we'll want to win it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Isn't it more about the way you show frustration than that it existed? I mean we were all frustrated by that loss, but not every poster claimed Adkins was a sh*t manager etc (I know a fair few did). A lot of blokes get into fights because of frustration or as a response to something that's happened, but that doesn't excuse the actions, just explains what lead to it. It's a comment on an Internet forum straight after a defeat which made automatic promotion that much more unlikely and meant we had to do something special to get there (which we did) that I said I didn't mean the next day! It's not like I got in a fight or anything, just let off steam on here and then said I was too harsh the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 FWIW, the table after the Walsall game Looking at that, I would say with our squad we were still massive favourites for 2nd place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 looking at the table..I can see hypos point.. adkins was shyt and we were crap all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 This thread comes close to trying to supress opinions a few people don't want to hear. No it doesn't, unless they're so embarrassed about what they posted that they wouldn't post it again. The thread demonstrates that people may be held to account for their publicly-stated opinions. As an academic (I assume you are, based on your screen name), surely you don't have a problem with that notion, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Is that the brigade that were proved right? It's not by chance, but because people thought we'd get promoted... which we did. Following the Walsall game we had to go on a record breaking run of victories which we have never done in our history just to finish second. It wasn't expected and after that game it seemed more likely that we would miss put than not. Starting a thread linking to it following such an amazing run (and it was amazing) is idiotic and don't try to pretend that you thought that was going to happen after Walsall because it just didn't seem likely at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I'd argue that threads started purely to focus on the negatives are started by ******s... You know the ones who never post after a win then reappear when we lose? Just saying is all. I hope you don't mean me? Seeing as time and time again prove that wrong by posting how pleased I am after a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I hope you don't mean me? Seeing as time and time again prove that wrong by posting how pleased I am after a victory. after a win, you will post a couple of time when laying the boot into the club, you will post like fuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 "reasonably civil discussion" ? Yeah, for a playgroup of 4 year olds. "I was right, you was wrong" or "my Dad is bigger than your Dad" springs to mind. I am 1000% certain hypochondriac is delighted that things are going so well and that some of his more negative comments were proven incorrect. Had a word with yourself you smug tw*t. If that were the case, then why are 99% of his posts still running the club down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Also FWIW, in the end we finished 5 points clear in 2nd with a far superior goal difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 looking at the table..I can see hypos point.. adkins was shyt and we were crap all the time What's with the constant baiting? I have explained myself enough times on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No it doesn't, unless they're so embarrassed about what they posted that they wouldn't post it again. The thread demonstrates that people may be held to account for their publicly-stated opinions. As an academic (I assume you are, based on your screen name), surely you don't have a problem with that notion, do you? What? this a message board not a court of law or and academic thesis..........I thought the point of this place was to disscuss your opinions on saints (regardless of what they are) not to trawl old posts looking for posters to ridicule.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 What? this a message board not a court of law or and academic thesis..........I thought the point of this place was to disscuss your opinions on saints (regardless of what they are) not to trawl old posts looking for posters to ridicule.......... which we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 after a win, you will post a couple of time when laying the boot into the club, you will post like fuk Oddly enough, my positive comments receive no replies whilst my 'negative' ones receive several so it stands to reason that I will make a lot more simply because there is more to reply to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 See threads like this add nothing to this forum except bad feeling. I've said it before but I really don't see whats wrong with people who mouthing off on a post match thread when we've lost (which is what the op has linked to) I've done most on here have I'm sure at some time if they're honest. Post match threads are heat of the moment things at least people who mouth off on them are are showing some passion far better than the constant "everything will be all right" brigade no matter what happens at the club IMO. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 If that were the case, then why are 99% of his posts still running the club down. Seriously that is something like the eighth comment from you today discussing me. Am I really your favourite topic for discussion? Just put me on ignore of it bothers you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I hope you don't mean me? Seeing as time and time again prove that wrong by posting how pleased I am after a victory. Nope, hes just spouting lazy cliches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No it doesn't, unless they're so embarrassed about what they posted that they wouldn't post it again. The thread demonstrates that people may be held to account for their publicly-stated opinions. As an academic (I assume you are, based on your screen name), surely you don't have a problem with that notion, do you? But I have tries to explain to you that that wasn't my opinion. I've tried to explain to you the reasonings behind mine and other's posts on a post match reaction thread (ie immediately after a match has ended) but you seem to have difficulty understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 after a win, you will post a couple of time when laying the boot into the club, you will post like fuk Oh come on TDD, dont be disingenuous. That is human nature. People say a lot more when f*cked off than when they are pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 which we are No your not. To coin the old phrase you're playing the man not the ball. Your more interested in putting the boot into hypo than talking about saints. I'm pretty sure people could bring up plenty of old posts of yours that boarderd on hysterical................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 But I have tries to explain to you that that wasn't my opinion. I've tried to explain to you the reasonings behind mine and other's posts on a post match reaction thread (ie immediately after a match has ended) but you seem to have difficulty understanding. Do you really think this thread is all about resolving something ? Its a c*ck-swinging smug thread, deliberately seeking to provoke a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Also FWIW, in the end we finished 5 points clear in 2nd with a far superior goal difference... Which was a fantastic and unexpected run I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No your not. To coin the old phrase you're playing the man not the ball. Your more interested in putting the boot into hypo than talking about saints. I'm pretty sure people could bring up plenty of old posts of yours that boarderd on hysterical................. post away...I have been on the other end of this many many times...probably by you too...I could not care less just the likes of hypo cant wait to throw the boot into the club, cortese, manager...his post history shows this whilst claiming the oppsoite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No your not. To coin the old phrase you're playing the man not the ball. Your more interested in putting the boot into hypo than talking about saints. I'm pretty sure people could bring up plenty of old posts of yours that boarderd on hysterical................. Exactly but it's totally pointless everyone makes comments which go over the top on occasion and in the heat of the moment. I'm just not as sad an hellbent on having smug point scoring posts as the original poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 post away...I have been on the other end of this many many times...probably by you too...I could not care less just the likes of hypo cant wait to throw the boot into the club, cortese, manager...his post history shows this whilst claiming the oppsoite No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Which was a fantastic and unexpected run I agree. Yep. Just goes to show we really didn't need to panic did we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 post away...I have been on the other end of this many many times...probably by you too...I could not care less just the likes of hypo cant wait to throw the boot into the club, cortese, manager...his post history shows this whilst claiming the oppsoite So you've done the same as hypo many times?........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 So you've done the same as hypo many times?........ yes, when I could not stand burley...and got banned for my efforts...as alpine did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Do you really think this thread is all about resolving something ? Its a c*ck-swinging smug thread, deliberately seeking to provoke a reaction. I agree with you alps. I think it says more about the reactions of the original poster ad his cronies than it does about posters who made a few ott comments after a game five months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 yes, when I could not stand burley...and got banned for my efforts...as alpine did So your issue is that I was not banned for the comments? I'm struggling to follow you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 What? this a message board not a court of law or and academic thesis..........I thought the point of this place was to disscuss your opinions on saints (regardless of what they are) not to trawl old posts looking for posters to ridicule.......... Yes, and opinions invite responses - that's the whole point of the thread. This response comes some six months after the fact, and it illustrates that some of the opinions expressed at the time were even more utterly ridiculous than they seemed at the time. I was highlighting the negativity, and lots and lots of people added the ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Yep. Just goes to show we really didn't need to panic did we! As I said, hindsight is a wonderful thing. If people were honest they were not expecting an amazing run like we had and I seriously doubt anyone was thinking that, certain Not immediately following a disappointing defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 So your issue is that I was not banned for the comments? I'm struggling to follow you here. no, just your utterly stupid and continuous bashing of the club/chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Yes, and opinions invite responses - that's the whole point of the thread. This response comes some six months after the fact, and it illustrates that some of the opinions expressed at the time were even more utterly ridiculous than they seemed at the time. I was highlighting the negativity, and lots and lots of people added the ridicule. Quite a few also called you Smug and infantile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 no, just your utterly stupid and continuous bashing of the club/chairman That's not what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 That's not what I do. well, that is how it comes across.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Ah, so this is what happens when we win loads and look good doing it. It's not much different to losing loads and looking poor really.... End of the day, getting wound up by a interweb forum is sad, most of us have probably done it, but it's ultimately pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Just stick me on ignore tdd, if I bother you. Seriously it's easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 That's not what I do. Lol..........I thought that was your sole reason for living! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Just stick me on ignore tdd, if I bother you. Seriously it's easy... it does not, just saying like...just think its stupid and like this, you are shown up to be a bit daft really...as i have many times in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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