CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Wow, a c*ck-swinging p*ssing contest. Threads like this are started by w*nkers. Expecting a mod to lock extremely soon... Most people were engaging in a reasonably civil discussion until you came along, but then I wouldn't expect you to like the subject matter. Why would a Mod lock it - because you don't like the discussion or the idea of being held to account for what you post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I put this on another thread: Some of the people on here really take the ****. 2 years ago we were bottom of league 1, if Marcus hadnt taken over we would probably be in the conference now. Some people are never happy! We could go and blow loads of money on players we don't need ala Burley & Wilde 2006, or we could not. I know what I prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Wow, another Hypo dominated thread. He is getting so so boring. I have resisted putting up this post for a month....day after day after day. Well done Hypo you have finally broken my resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No difference. I was livid because I hate to see saints lose because I love my team. I did not feel the same way the next day and posted to that effect AND we then went on a record breaking run (something we had to do to secure second and which was not obvious immediately after a cr*p result.) Hindsight is a wonderful thing.Mature individuals learn from the benefit that hindsight gives them; they learn from their mistakes. Anybody who does not take on board the lessons of experience and makes the same mistakes again and again makes themselves look a fool. This is especially true on an internet forum where something said in the heat of the moment can come back to haunt you if it is still in the public domain and so can easily be dredged up again. Therefore, if one is prone to knee-jerk reactions, perhaps a good idea to wait until the morning after the poor result, or whatever was controversial when it happened and sleep on it. Many have passed judgement on our new Dutch signing based on the internet opinions of another forum, without making an informed judgement based on the evidence of their own eyes. One only has to be reminded from past errors of judgment that there is the distinct possibility that they will have egg all over their faces once more, having learned nothing from previous experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 That particular defeat left me very angry because of its importance and our lack of a performance it's not after any old defeat. I was actually very positive after the recent Leicester loss and on numerous ocassions last year. I wasn't more than p*ssed off, I was perfectly fine the next day and posted on here saying I had been rash. But that is not the way it came across especially with so many posts. Can you not see that on reflection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Agree with that too. Another look at me arent I clever smug proven right thread. You still don't get it, do you? It's not about me being right - not at all. It's about you being wrong with your endless negativity - again and again and again. Now that your buddy in arms, Alpine, has turned up, you're full of p*ss and vinegar again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Most people were engaging in a reasonably civil discussion until you came along, but then I wouldn't expect you to like the subject matter. Why would a Mod lock it - because you don't like the discussion or the idea of being held to account for what you post? "reasonably civil discussion" ? Yeah, for a playgroup of 4 year olds. "I was right, you was wrong" or "my Dad is bigger than your Dad" springs to mind. I am 1000% certain hypochondriac is delighted that things are going so well and that some of his more negative comments were proven incorrect. Had a word with yourself you smug tw*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Most people were engaging in a reasonably civil discussion until you came along, but then I wouldn't expect you to like the subject matter. Why would a Mod lock it - because you don't like the discussion or the idea of being held to account for what you post? Dragging up reactive comments immediately following a terribly crushing defeat which meant that we had to go on a record breaking run to get second makes it look like you are just being a smug w*nker trying to point score. It's not like I'm surprised but as you can see I have accepted that with hindsight (hindsight being the important word) those comments make me look stupid but then I did say as much the next day. And no most people weren't engaging in a civil discussion if you bother to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Mature individuals learn from the benefit that hindsight gives them; they learn from their mistakes. Anybody who does not take on board the lessons of experience and makes the same mistakes again and again makes themselves look a fool. This is especially true on an internet forum where something said in the heat of the moment can come back to haunt you if it is still in the public domain and so can easily be dredged up again. Therefore, if one is prone to knee-jerk reactions, perhaps a good idea to wait until the morning after the poor result, or whatever was controversial when it happened and sleep on it. Many have passed judgement on our new Dutch signing based on the internet opinions of another forum, without making an informed judgement based on the evidence of their own eyes. One only has to be reminded from past errors of judgment that there is the distinct possibility that they will have egg all over their faces once more, having learned nothing from previous experience. Nope. I never did that. I must have posted about six times last night that I was specifically not passing judgement on him before he had played for saints. Everyone has an initial reaction about a player signing before they have seen them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 "reasonably civil discussion" ? Yeah, for a playgroup of 4 year olds. "I was right, you was wrong" or "my Dad is bigger than your Dad" springs to mind. I am 1000% certain hypochondriac is delighted that things are going so well and that some of his more negative comments were proven incorrect. Had a word with yourself you smug tw*t. Cheers Alpine, I actually am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Had a word with yourself you smug tw*t. This from the poster who squeals like a little kid if anyone posts anything resembling a personal attack on him. You make the point better than I ever could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 This from the poster who squeals like a little kid if anyone posts anything resembling a personal attack on him. You make the point better than I ever could. I've never stooped so low as to start a thread to villify a poster though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Mature individuals learn from the benefit that hindsight gives them; they learn from their mistakes. Anybody who does not take on board the lessons of experience and makes the same mistakes again and again makes themselves look a fool. This is especially true on an internet forum where something said in the heat of the moment can come back to haunt you if it is still in the public domain and so can easily be dredged up again. Therefore, if one is prone to knee-jerk reactions, perhaps a good idea to wait until the morning after the poor result, or whatever was controversial when it happened and sleep on it. Many have passed judgement on our new Dutch signing based on the internet opinions of another forum, without making an informed judgement based on the evidence of their own eyes. One only has to be reminded from past errors of judgment that there is the distinct possibility that they will have egg all over their faces once more, having learned nothing from previous experience. My point exactly, expressed better than I could have stated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 whippet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I've never stooped so low as to start a thread to villify a poster though.... Your posts are an almost continous stream of belly aching at someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Mature individuals learn from the benefit that hindsight gives them; they learn from their mistakes. Anybody who does not take on board the lessons of experience and makes the same mistakes again and again makes themselves look a fool. This is especially true on an internet forum where something said in the heat of the moment can come back to haunt you if it is still in the public domain and so can easily be dredged up again. Therefore, if one is prone to knee-jerk reactions, perhaps a good idea to wait until the morning after the poor result, or whatever was controversial when it happened and sleep on it. Many have passed judgement on our new Dutch signing based on the internet opinions of another forum, without making an informed judgement based on the evidence of their own eyes. One only has to be reminded from past errors of judgment that there is the distinct possibility that they will have egg all over their faces once more, having learned nothing from previous experience. You forget the other aspect of internet sites is there is always some saddo twonk waiting to remind you of what you said because their life hasnt moved on in the 5 intervening months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Cheers Alpine, I actually am. but you dont change...on almost every decision the clubs makes, you stick the boot in (on here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Hypo, you are tarnished goods pal. No one will take what you have to say seriously anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Your posts are an almost continous stream of belly aching at someone. So what ? I call it as I see it. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Would you be so kind as to explain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 but you dont change...on almost every decision the clubs makes, you stick the boot in (on here). Nope plenty of things I am happy with. Training ground improvements, season ticket dinners, our style of football at the moment Ipswich away, cork signing, us taking arsenal to the cleaners to name but a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 So what ? I call it as I see it. Deal with it. I dont need to deal with it. I can quite happily ignore it, unlike your family. Im just pointing out that, like Hypo, you wriggle and twist looking for some justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Would you be so kind as to explain ? She doesn't have a negative bone in her body. Would have made an excellent signing. Is all I'm saying... ... she also hates boo-yar-shucks online 'debates' edit: sorry, that's actually her brother. Bloody upload thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 but you dont change...on almost every decision the clubs makes, you stick the boot in (on here). Common TDD, dont join the sheep. You know that isnt true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I've never stooped so low as to start a thread to villify a poster though.... It wasn't Canada's intention to pick on hypo in particular- it just so happens that hypo has wound up so many posters on here they promptly turned on him. There was a lot of guff posted by a lot of people. I think it's good that CanadaSaint brought this old thread up. It's nice to have a bit of accountability on the internet. That's how real life works- you make a claim and people hold you to it. Even if something is said in the heat of the moment, it still reveals plenty about your character about WHAT you say. P.S. My Dad and penis are both bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I've never stooped so low as to start a thread to villify a poster though.... Vilify a poster? Not at all - I was vilifying the mindless negativity that infests this forum, and doing so without naming anyone. It doesn't come from just one poster, it comes from a number - of whom you are one. The fact that a number of people quoted Hypo is by the by - they could have quoted others. My point has been made - better by Wes Tender than by me. Tough if you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Nope. I never did that. I must have posted about six times last night that I was specifically not passing judgement on him before he had played for saints. Everyone has an initial reaction about a player signing before they have seen them play. The bit you highlighted wasn't aimed at you, Hypo, but at the many others who made the snap judgement that as Celtic fans weren't complimentary about him, he must be sh*te. In much the same way that you were pleased to have been proved wrong about our prospects following the Walsall reverse, (because it meant that the team was ultimately successful), I sincerely hope that those who made knee-jerk reactions following yesterday's signing will also come to realise that they went off at half-cock, because the lad had made them eat their words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 You forget the other aspect of internet sites is there is always some saddo twonk waiting to remind you of what you said because their life hasnt moved on in the 5 intervening months. You also have to remember that our situation at that time was very different to today. Automatic promotion looked like a long shot and only a record breaking run got us there. Anyone can look back with hindsight. Could anyone have foreseen the amount we won after this? I know I didnt and if you are honest you probably didn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 You forget the other aspect of internet sites is there is always some saddo twonk waiting to remind you of what you said because their life hasnt moved on in the 5 intervening months. So you're allowed to be wrong about something provided you don't linger on the subject? Surely you don't believe that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 My Dad and penis are both bigger. Did Mike tell you that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Vilify a poster? Not at all - I was vilifying the mindless negativity that infests this forum, and doing so without naming anyone. It doesn't come from just one poster, it comes from a number - of whom you are one. The fact that a number of people quoted Hypo is by the by - they could have quoted others. My point has been made - better by Wes Tender than by me. Tough if you don't like it. Right, so you have named two of us now. More evidence of petty points scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Deary me. Atleast hypo has tried to explain why he said what he did. And then Alpine joins in with the "this should be locked" b0ll0cks.....and then makes a personal insult. Not atall hypocritical ay alps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 If Adkins had not gone on that winning run and got us up automatically then in my eyes that would have been a failure and immediately after the poor result that scenario looked more likely than not. My frustration was borne out of my passion for my team and out of a real desire to succeed and see us do well. Ipswich away was one of the best away games I have been to and I was so happy during that so it's nice to see Adkins doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Did Mike tell you that? Can't reveal my source, sorry. It is good info though, from the same guy who tipped me off about Zlatan Ljubijankic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Right, so you have named two of us now. More evidence of petty points scoring. More evidence of being a bed wetting moron. Wahhhhhhhhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 So you're allowed to be wrong about something provided you don't linger on the subject? Surely you don't believe that! Actually I do think its fine. Why is it any different from the tw*ttish and ill-advised comments that come out of the stands during the game ? We love our club, care about it and it continually provokes and emotional response from us. This is a f*cking internet chat-site, not a court of law. Some people are so self-important and pompous on here. As long as slander, racisim and homophobia are avoided, I couldnt give a rats arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I miss Deppo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Deary me. Atleast hypo has tried to explain why he said what he did. And then Alpine joins in with the "this should be locked" b0ll0cks.....and then makes a personal insult. Not atall hypocritical ay alps? He who casts the first stone....in this case CanadaSaint. And you are only full of p*ss and wind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 My posts seem remarkably similar to most of my posts over the last 9 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 And you are only full of p*ss and wind as well. Irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Irony. Whatever. You have nothing to say apart from criticise others, ever. Baaaaaaaa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 If Adkins had not gone on that winning run and got us up automatically then in my eyes that would have been a failure and immediately after the poor result that scenario looked more likely than not. My frustration was borne out of my passion for my team and out of a real desire to succeed and see us do well. Ipswich away was one of the best away games I have been to and I was so happy during that so it's nice to see Adkins doing well. Isn't it more about the way you show frustration than that it existed? I mean we were all frustrated by that loss, but not every poster claimed Adkins was a sh*t manager etc (I know a fair few did). A lot of blokes get into fights because of frustration or as a response to something that's happened, but that doesn't excuse the actions, just explains what lead to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Whatever. You have nothing to say apart from criticise others, ever. Baaaaaaaa... I find laughing at you more entertaining than talking about football, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Whatever. You have nothing to say apart from criticise others, ever. Baaaaaaaa... Hi Alpine, Any chance of engaging in discussion with me? Like to think I've made some valid points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I find laughing at you more entertaining than talking about football, to be fair. Fine. The last word was yours. I have a yogurt on its sell-by date to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Hi Alpine, Any chance of engaging in discussion with me? Like to think I've made some valid points... Isn't it more about the way you show frustration than that it existed? I mean we were all frustrated by that loss, but not every poster claimed Adkins was a sh*t manager etc (I know a fair few did). A lot of blokes get into fights because of frustration or as a response to something that's happened, but that doesn't excuse the actions, just explains what lead to it. Happy to try. I dont know which defeat you are referring to, since the only game hypo referred to was Ipswich which was an emphatic win. Yes, some people when they feel an emotion have a more difficult time controlling the boundaries of where they go than others. But this is an internet chat-site, not standing in the Northam next to the away fans. So long as he hasnt broke site rules, whats the harm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Happy to try. I dont know which defeat you are referring to, since the only game hypo referred to was Ipswich which was an emphatic win. Yes, some people when they feel an emotion have a more difficult time controlling the boundaries of where they go than others. But this is an internet chat-site, not standing in the Northam next to the away fans. So long as he hasnt broke site rules, whats the harm ? Ah yes. I was referring to the OP Walsall game actually, my bad. There are more deciding factors than if something is or is not against the rules though, aren't there? None of the negativity is against forum rules, but that doesn't stop it from winding other posters up, that's all. By all means overly-dramatic posts are borne out of a failure to control boundaries, but why should anyone else have to control their frustrations over the actual post? It winds me up that anybody (not aimed at individuals) could get as angry over losing a game as us nearly losing our club. We know what it's like to nearly disappear, so shouldn't we always be a little more thankful about what we have? Now, why do I have to control my frustration about a post when the poster has shown an inability to do so? It's a slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 See threads like this add nothing to this forum except bad feeling. I've said it before but I really don't see whats wrong with people who mouthing off on a post match thread when we've lost (which is what the op has linked to) I've done most on here have I'm sure at some time if they're honest. Post match threads are heat of the moment things at least people who mouth off on them are are showing some passion far better than the constant "everything will be all right" brigade no matter what happens at the club IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 See threads like this add nothing to this forum except bad feeling. I've said it before but I really don't see whats wrong with people who mouthing off on a post match thread when we've lost (which is what the op has linked to) I've done most on here have I'm sure at some time if they're honest. Post match threads are heat of the moment things at least people who mouth off on them are are showing some passion far better than the constant "everything will be all right" brigade no matter what happens at the club IMO. Is that the brigade that were proved right? It's not by chance, but because people thought we'd get promoted... which we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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