SNSUN Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Yes, I'd take him, if he's fit enough, and even if he's not, Adkins is the man to get you fit. The wages must be right too, but as a free transfer, there's less risk involved. I don't think he's Adkins's style though, so I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Would rather see Chris Baird back than JB. Was pretty hopeless for Hollowhead at Blackpool and now chucked on the scrap heap by Rangers. What's he going to add that RL & DC dont give us. Type of signing Burley would make, we've moved on now. Beattiemania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 As much as I liked Beattie - he was a cause of disruption in the camp last time around from memory. He was never the most athletic of forwards - some might say lazy. He could hold the ball up if it was kicked at him but seem to remember if it was more than a forearm away from him he let it go. Seem to remember stories about him out and about town and some of his (urgh) alleged habits! He's not the sort of player we want around our squad with his dilusions of grandeur - and stories of conquests past in The Premier League. I can see him being liked by the squad as he is a bit of a lad by all accounts - but I think he would tend to be more trouble in the dressing room than it is worth. "Don't you know who I am - I'm James Beattie first name on the team sheet" - not any more mate you have to earn the right in training to play for us now - not just turn up in your Lambogini! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 It really depends on whether he still wants to be a footballer. I've seen some of the accusations on here. They may be justified. They may equally be libellous. Point is, people do actually change during the course of their lives. Depends where his head is at, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 It really depends on whether he still wants to be a footballer. I've seen some of the accusations on here. They may be justified. They may equally be libellous. Point is, people do actually change during the course of their lives. Depends where his head is at, really. tbf you probably mean my accusations. They were true when he was at Saints but they may not be true anymore. I still wouldnt touch him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 No brainer.................. 1. he's a free agent. 2. Would quickly settle back into the area as his wife is from here. 3. Always had great passion when wearing the Red & White. 4. Plenty of experience in this league and the next level up. 5. Even if we only unleash against the sk8s it would worth the entertainment value alone. 6. Pay as he plays. ...................................sign him up and get him on the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 A contract on a pay per game basis? Get him " properly match fit " ...and give a place on the bench every and 30 minutes run out , could be worth a few goals. WHY NOT ? Give it a go. I'm not a great believer in " Old Lang Syne " but it would be a nice gesture and get us a few more valuable points at vital times in the season, and al least someeeeone who might cover for Lambert in emergencies. Kevin Phillips is 38 and scoring every week for Blackpool ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Kevin Phillips is 38 and scoring every week for Blackpool ! Phillips is a better footballer and has kept himself in shape. He would have scored a hatful for Rangers and they would not have let him go. The past 2 and a half years he's scored 9 goals, got kicked out of Stoke after falling out with Pulis, didn't score a goal in the Scottish pub league or for Blackpool and is now without a club-That's why it's a no from me.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soton7 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 He is sat outside coffee shop on London Road, likely to be because his Mrs & Kids live down here, I think on a free is worth a shot Saw him there too, he was sitting near me! Was in two mind whether to take a pic or not (",) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 You lot crack me up. Fat, cokehead, lazy, bad in the dressing room, how the **** do you have the right to say these things about someone that at best you might of snatched a chat with while taking a **** on a night out? He's not fat at all, he has always chased back so I don't get the lazy bit, as for dressing room, david Moyes always complemented him on the way he kept the motivation up in the dressing room when he was rested at Everton. I'm not even going to comment about the drugs thing but unless you can prove it thats slander. The only thing thats held James back in the past couple of years was a dust up with Pulis and then a loss of confidence through too much time without match practice. If he did sign for Saints he'd give 110%. His family are here and he'd love to be close to them. If its not Saints, then there will be another team in for him soon, he's got one or two decent seasons in him given a bit of support and the right manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Phillips is a better footballer and has kept himself in shape. He would have scored a hatful for Rangers and they would not have let him go. The past 2 and a half years he's scored 9 goals, got kicked out of Stoke after falling out with Pulis, didn't score a goal in the Scottish pub league or for Blackpool and is now without a club-That's why it's a no from me.......... And me. Rose tinted glasses at work with too many posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 You lot crack me up. Fat, cokehead, lazy, bad in the dressing room, how the **** do you have the right to say these things about someone that at best you might of snatched a chat with while taking a **** on a night out? He's not fat at all, he has always chased back so I don't get the lazy bit, as for dressing room, david Moyes always complemented him on the way he kept the motivation up in the dressing room when he was rested at Everton. I'm not even going to comment about the drugs thing but unless you can prove it thats slander. The only thing thats held James back in the past couple of years was a dust up with Pulis and then a loss of confidence through too much time without match practice. If he did sign for Saints he'd give 110%. His family are here and he'd love to be close to them. If its not Saints, then there will be another team in for him soon, he's got one or two decent seasons in him given a bit of support and the right manager. Quite right James...:@) On a serious note I do agree. Whether we manage to sign him up is another question altogether, but I just don't share the view that he'd be a terrible influence on the dressing room. He can score goals at this level without any trouble, all he needs to do is prove his fitness IMO. If he's fit and a deal can be agreed then only an idiot would turn him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I'm not even going to comment about the drugs thing but unless you can prove it thats slander. The only thing thats held James back in the past couple of years was a dust up with Pulis and then a loss of confidence through too much time without match practice. If he did sign for Saints he'd give 110%. His family are here and he'd love to be close to them. If its not Saints, then there will be another team in for him soon, he's got one or two decent seasons in him given a bit of support and the right manager. He had the chance to redeem himself at Rangers and Blackpool and scored the grand total of 0 goals. Hollowhead takes all sorts of waifs and strays, but not JB it seems. Living close by and giving 110% are irrelavant. Most of us fall into that category. If you cant r score a goal in SPL, what chance have you got? There are plenty of guys who've scored a hatful in the SPL or looked great, but struggled in England.We should not be a retirement home for explayers just because they love the club. If he'd never played for saints, not one person would want him signing on the back of his record the past 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I am not going to dispute any of the other posts on here but...I have met him 3 times. On every occasion he has taken the time to sign autographs, chat, photos etc with all the fans. He was the patron of a local charity that held a football tournament - he came to the prize giving and stayed for hours. He even did this when he left - the one year he couldnt make it he sent along another Saints player. The problem I have is we have this vision of BT scoring against the Skates and the cupping of his ear.....trouble is he is nowhere near that player now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 You lot crack me up. Fat, cokehead, lazy, bad in the dressing room, how the **** do you have the right to say these things about someone that at best you might of snatched a chat with while taking a **** on a night out? He's not fat at all, he has always chased back so I don't get the lazy bit, as for dressing room, david Moyes always complemented him on the way he kept the motivation up in the dressing room when he was rested at Everton. I'm not even going to comment about the drugs thing but unless you can prove it thats slander. The only thing thats held James back in the past couple of years was a dust up with Pulis and then a loss of confidence through too much time without match practice. If he did sign for Saints he'd give 110%. His family are here and he'd love to be close to them. If its not Saints, then there will be another team in for him soon, he's got one or two decent seasons in him given a bit of support and the right manager. Great post. I have warmed to the idea of him at least training with us and trying to impress NA as the day has gone on. Would help keep Rickie on his toes too. There was a couple of odd moments I saw against Milwall when he just stopped running after he lost the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I must admit, hearing the 'Same old Beattie, always scoring' song at SMS would be rather good! Funniest BT song moment I recall was watching Saints away at Chelsea when he scored in the first minute or two. We sang it. He then scored an own goal… so Chelski fans sang it too! Had to laff! Best moment was his 89th minute header at SMS to beat Manure 1-0 at home. Loved that so much! If it was a possibility my advice to Adkins mirrors WGS's to Moyes, 'He's only any good if you get him super fit'… or words to that effect. Can he ever be super fit again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I once had the fortune to go with a really hot girl. Gave head like you would not believe, great body, funny, smart... she dumped me a while back, and I never really got over it (even though I am happily married now, it sticks in my mind, you know). The other day, she Facebooked me, we became friends, and while I am glad to renew our acquaintance, the years have not been kind to her. 'Lucky escape' springs to mind. Beatts is a lot like that. We weren't there to witness his slow slide to fat mediocrity, and I think a lot of people on here would be very disappointed in the player he has become. Yes, I would like a genetically-engineered 2002-era James Beattie, but the 2011 version does not hold the same appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I once had the fortune to go with a really hot girl. Gave head like you would not believe, great body, funny, smart... she dumped me a while back, and I never really got over it (even though I am happily married now, it sticks in my mind, you know). The other day, she Facebooked me, we became friends, and while I am glad to renew our acquaintance, the years have not been kind to her. 'Lucky escape' springs to mind. Beatts is a lot like that. We weren't there to witness his slow slide to fat mediocrity, and I think a lot of people on here would be very disappointed in the player he has become. Yes, I would like a genetically-engineered 2002-era James Beattie, but the 2011 version does not hold the same appeal. So are you saying Beattie gives good head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 What was that website listing all the current free transfers, I can't find it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 we don't need any player that could be potentially disruptive in the dressing room. So no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 Would he play for Saints on a pay per match basis with bonus for each goal scored ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 I don't think that the conditions at the club would allow him to disrupt squad harmony. I refer the jury to the case of Jason Puncheon, erstwhile of the Southampton youth setup - now loaned to a Premier League team. If it's a problem, it'll be sorted. As I said earlier, depends where his head is at. He's pretty well established in Southampton - I think it could be a good fit for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 1 September, 2011 Share Posted 1 September, 2011 And can people please stop pretending that Southampton FC are a bunch of innocent choirboys that obey every order. I refer the jury now to the case of Lee Barnard. They're lads playing at a football club. One more is not going to make that much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 Fine player for Saints...p!ss poor at Blackpool last year, none of the 'old player, desperate we need ex-stars' type clubs/managers ie Forest, skates, Blackpool (tho' they had him last year) picked him up, so it should say something. Two options 1. Strictly pay as you play. 2. He would be great and should sign either for one of those 'new cash' L1 or L2 teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 Would love it if we signed him and he came on to score a winner against the skates. He'd love it as much as we would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 It could be paper ******** but he is attracting attention from a few premier league clubs so i dont see what harm it would do for him to train with us and see what happens. The trouble with this place is that too many people right off anyone who hasnt done it at a previous club and very often they have to eat a bit of humble pie. We are still a new championship club so lets not get above our station just yet eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 As a matter of interest when did he last score a goal , for anyone? Excuse my ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 The source of disruption is debatable, I only remember praise as him being an upbeat member of the dressing room. As for his style of player, lazy? Seriously? We had our hardest working forward line with him and Brett. Right from his early days before the goals came Beattie was about hard work and hassling defenders. I can't speak for his post-saints play, but with us he worked hard every time I saw him. He was one of the most athletic, given his fitness, strength etc., and the fact he'd been a national level swimmer. His ego is largely media rubbish, shame it happened really as he was always a nice guy and one of the more intelligent footballers. It feels like this will be another one of those 'no definitely not welcome here' threads where the player ends up in the premier league! this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 You lot crack me up. Fat, cokehead, lazy, bad in the dressing room, how the **** do you have the right to say these things about someone that at best you might of snatched a chat with while taking a **** on a night out? He's not fat at all, he has always chased back so I don't get the lazy bit, as for dressing room, david Moyes always complemented him on the way he kept the motivation up in the dressing room when he was rested at Everton. I'm not even going to comment about the drugs thing but unless you can prove it thats slander. The only thing thats held James back in the past couple of years was a dust up with Pulis and then a loss of confidence through too much time without match practice. If he did sign for Saints he'd give 110%. His family are here and he'd love to be close to them. If its not Saints, then there will be another team in for him soon, he's got one or two decent seasons in him given a bit of support and the right manager. Totally Agree , He is worth a punt if he is prepared to apply himself to the present Team togetherness and wants to be on our bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 Well he will be putting himself in the shop window next Saturday morning on Soccer AM. Maybe worth a listen to see what he has to say!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 As a matter of interest when did he last score a goal , for anyone? Excuse my ignorance Interesting question actually if you look at his stats you can see that he has basically had 1 decent season since he left us. However in the past 4 seasons he has managed just 12 league goals in 80 games - last season he failed to score at all. http://www.premierleague.com/page/PlayerProfile/0,,12306~5991,00.html I think I'd pass on this one - sentiment could get you into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 Going to Sheff Utd apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 L1 is probably his standard now If he's spending more time down here again due to family commitments, I'd be surprised if Bournemouth didn't enquire He'd be perfect for them, as long as his wage demands were realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 Interesting question actually if you look at his stats you can see that he has basically had 1 decent season since he left us. However in the past 4 seasons he has managed just 12 league goals in 80 games - last season he failed to score at all. http://www.premierleague.com/page/PlayerProfile/0,,12306~5991,00.html I think I'd pass on this one - sentiment could get you into trouble. erm. unless wikipedia has been vandalised again it looks like he's scored 43 goals in 107 league apppearances over the last four seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 erm. unless wikipedia has been vandalised again it looks like he's scored 43 goals in 107 league apppearances over the last four seasons. OK, the table didn't include blackpool, so definitely at least 9 additional apppearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 (edited) Sorry,did not read post above by Whelk. L1 may be a better option for him, but as an occassional deputy for RL,I would not mind Beattie back here.Question is whether he would accept that. Edited 4 September, 2011 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 34 goals in 62 games for Sheff Utd in his season and a half in the championship suggests he could do it at championship level? To be fair I don't think he played much at Blackpool or Rangers so I don't see how people think how many goals he scored in the last 12 months is particularily relevant? Despite not playing much I don't recall there being stories of him causing problems at those clubs so I would tend to think the attitude bit may be exaggerated too? I don't think it would be much of a risk to give him a go- would it fit in with our apparent current buying strategy? Possibly not. He would not be a signing which would help if we get promoted. However would he offer competition/back up for Rickie? I think so, therefore in the absence of anyone else I think he would be a good option to have. He should do really well in L1 if that's where he goes...but I wish him well where ever he ends up as he gave us some great memories not least for me, being a major factor on the day Hoddle got sacked at the Spuds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 I'm decidedly on the fence. IMO, Beattie has only played well when a team has been built around him. We all know his attributes (hard work, strength, an excellent shot when facing goal, and the ability to head fast and accurately) - these are not the sort of attributes which fade with age (like pace or technique). However, (again IMO) Beattie has never been good with his back to goal, he really needs to to be able to run onto the ball. As such, I'm not sure I can see how he would fit in to our fast passing strategy. I think Lallana, Guly, and De Ridder would all need to change the way they play if Beattie were on the pitch, less short quick and direct, and more byline crossing. I'm not sure whether this would be too fundamental a change? - If it worked, bringing Beattie on for say Lambert, and having the whole midfield automatically change the way they play, could turn difficult games, and confuse opponants.. but it is a big ask of the midfield to have to learn two different ways of playing. Of course, the biggest risk with Beattie is psychological, would he be able to get his attitude into gear and get the 'big time Charlie' chip off of his shoulder? Would he fit our pay structure? Would he respect the dressing room? On balance I think the risks are too great, but I do think Beattie has the raw attributes to have further successful seasons, but only with the right team and strategy built around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 Blackpool, 5 starts, 4 subs, 0 goals Rangers, 6 starts, 4 subs, 0 goals Stoke , 29 starts, 11 subs, 9 goals Sheff U, 60 starts, 5 subs, 34 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 Blackpool, 5 starts, 4 subs, 0 goals Rangers, 6 starts, 4 subs, 0 goals Stoke , 29 starts, 11 subs, 9 goals Sheff U, 60 starts, 5 subs, 34 goals To sum up. He only scores in red and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 In Vodka Revs tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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