There was a ghost in my bedroom last night

[saint boggy]

Sorry, but...............

 

 

 

 

A stern telling off. FFS.

 

Ever had dealings with malevolent spirits?......ever had a spirit in your house?....

 

......ever felt helpless enough to try ANYTHING in order to stop scary sh1t happening?.

 

who are you to mock when you've ,no doubt,not been in a similar situation?

 

"There,but for the grace of God go I"......you should memorise that phrase,it will serve you well as you go through life.

[bristolsaint29]

Maybe he's in the telly now like on Poltergeist

[ericb]

Ever had dealings with malevolent spirits?......ever had a spirit in your house?....

 

......ever felt helpless enough to try ANYTHING in order to stop scary sh1t happening?.

 

who are you to mock when you've ,no doubt,not been in a similar situation?

 

"There,but for the grace of God go I"......you should memorise that phrase,it will serve you well as you go through life.

 

I can fairly confidently say i won't ever have contact with ghosts as they don't exist and a stern telling off.... :lol: i can just imagine you standing in the middle of your room chastising something that doesn't exist while your neighbours look on from outside thinking you're the local nutjob

[aintforever]

If ghosts existed they would be on youtube by now, it's all nonsense.

[scotty]

If ghosts existed they would be on youtube by now, it's all nonsense.

 

Maybe, maybe not. Its easy enough to simply dismiss the concept, but if you ever see one you'll change your mind quicker than dog could say "ouija board". It is just as closed-minded to deny any possibility of ghosts or anything else we dont or cant understand as it is to insist on their existence. I happen to believe that ghosts exist, but thats probably only because I've seen one myself. Tends to alter ones view of these things.

[ericb]

but if you ever see one you'll change your mind quicker than dog could say "ouija board"

 

if i ever see one i'll check that my drink hasn't been spiked, then if it hasn't i'll book myself in for psychiatric care.

 

It is just as closed-minded to deny any possibility of ghosts or anything else we dont or cant understand as it is to insist on their existence.

 

yup that's exactly what i say to people when i camp out by fire places with a net at christmas trying catch father christmas, or outside dentists with a shotgun just in case that damned tooth fairy turns up to do some thieving.

 

Sadly the police are such closed minded nazis they keep arresting me for breaking and entering and keeping a concealed weapon

[Dig Dig]

Maybe, maybe not. Its easy enough to simply dismiss the concept, but if you ever see one you'll change your mind quicker than dog could say "ouija board". It is just as closed-minded to deny any possibility of ghosts or anything else we dont or cant understand as it is to insist on their existence. I happen to believe that ghosts exist, but thats probably only because I've seen one myself. Tends to alter ones view of these things.

 

You didn't see a ghost, ridiculous

[Dr Who?]

Update:

 

Went to bed at 11.00pm, turned off light, nothing.

2.00am woken up by someone talking in room.

3.11am woken up by a ladies voice in room having a full conversation with someone, and my bedroom light was ON!!

 

Now you see I find this hard to believe, if I hear a slight noise in the night, there is no going back to sleep for me, so no being woken up again!

 

With regards to this I would not be able to sleep at all, and would get up and walk around the house if I heard noises, and then look to shift the house on to someone else, or rent it out and move on!! lol

[Dr Who?]

Now I do believe in ghosts as to this day when I was 15 I am 100% sure I have seen one. It was over the Common near the play park in Southampton. Me and a few mates were staying out ALL night. We were all under the climbing frame, and a grey shadow was walking across the log. This was around 1am, and the place of course was deserted. We did not hand around and legged it. We all saw it, and I think there were 5 of us at the time. 5 people cannot be wrong!!

[scotty]

You didn't see a ghost, ridiculous

 

If you say so. I'm not telling anyone else what to believe, I just know what I saw.

[Saint in Paradise]

So it looks like I am incorrect but also correct then about the poster called "Dog"

 

Incorrect to believe him and his story ( lie ? ) but correct calling him a wum as he has

not posted any actions taken by him.

 

Ah well another lesson about who to believe then, I do believe in the paranormal though

regardless of what "Dog" has posted.

 

 

 

.

[SuperMikey]

I think Dog may have been sectioned, hence the lack of recent posts on this thread. Poor bugger.

[Matthew Le God]

Now I do believe in ghosts as to this day when I was 15 I am 100% sure I have seen one. It was over the Common near the play park in Southampton. Me and a few mates were staying out ALL night. We were all under the climbing frame, and a grey shadow was walking across the log. This was around 1am, and the place of course was deserted.We did not hand around and legged it. We all saw it, and I think there were 5 of us at the time. 5 people cannot be wrong!!

 

What strange logic that is.

[Dog]

Sorry I haven't posted over the weekend, but it was the weekend and I was out and about having fun, and not stuck in the office or at home on PC like some sad people.

 

As far as activities go, nothing has happened over the weekend, thank god. And I have no plans to get a vicar in the house, I just hope & pray it'll go away.

[Dog]

If you don't believe me then you can **** Off!!

 

If you do then Thank You.

[Jeff Le Taxi]

Not so long ago physicians stuck leaches to people to cure all manner of things, trusted scholars taught us the world was flat.......... if you think we know all the answers to everything now, you are seriously deluded people!

[sadoldgit]

Loving the logic that something can only exist if it has been on YouTube.

[Viking Warrior]

dog leave a couple of mince pies out and a glass of sherry

also sprinkle the floor with talcum powder that way you will be able to confirm if its a ghost or somebody winding you up

 

If there are fottprints then your in trouble sounds like a sequel to nightmare on elm street PS lay off the magic mushroom for a while

 

OOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Jeff Le Taxi]

Loving the logic that something can only exist if it has been on YouTube.

 

 

This

[Smirking_Saint]

Loving the logic that something can only exist if it has been on YouTube.

 

I don't believe in Youtube

[Matthew Le God]

Not so long ago physicians stuck leaches to people to cure all manner of things, trusted scholars taught us the world was flat.......... if you think we know all the answers to everything now, you are seriously deluded people!

 

How is that relevant? These people didn't use scientific method to draw such conclusions. They weren't true "scientists". In any case no-one here has claimed that "science knows the answers to everything now".

 

There is no credible peer reviewed scientific paper proving the existence of ghosts.

[Jeff Le Taxi]

How is that relevant? These people didn't use scientific method to draw such conclusions. They weren't true "scientists". In any case no-one here has claimed that "science knows the answers to everything now".

 

There is no credible peer reviewed scientific paper proving the existence of ghosts.

 

So nobody on this thread has stated that basic physics disproves the ghost phenomenon? have you actually READ this thread?

 

come on keep up man!

[Matthew Le God]

So nobody on this thread has stated that basic physics disproves the ghost phenomenon? have you actually READ this thread?

 

come on keep up man!

 

Again, not relevant as that isn't the same as saying as you did...

 

"if you think we know all the answers to everything now, you are seriously deluded people"

 

No-one has said that.

 

Where do you draw the line? Do you believe in fairies, leprechauns, unicorns, flying spaghetti monsters etc?

[Jeff Le Taxi]

WTF are you on about? do you troll the whole internet looking to spout your drivel, i was merely stating that we dont know all the answers yet, and for the record i neither believe nor disbelieve in ghosts, let alone fairies, leprechauns, unicorns, flying spaghetti monsters etc?

[Matthew Le God]

WTF are you on about? do you troll the whole internet looking to spout your drivel, i was merely stating that we dont know all the answers yet

 

But yet you claimed people in this thread had said we do, when no-one has. So it isn't me "spouting drivel"...

 

if you think we know all the answers to everything now, you are seriously deluded people!

[aintforever]

Maybe, maybe not. Its easy enough to simply dismiss the concept, but if you ever see one you'll change your mind quicker than dog could say "ouija board". It is just as closed-minded to deny any possibility of ghosts or anything else we dont or cant understand as it is to insist on their existence. I happen to believe that ghosts exist, but thats probably only because I've seen one myself. Tends to alter ones view of these things.

 

What's your theory on why no one has ever been able to video one ever then?

[scott_saints]

Adults believing in ghosts-

[scotty]

What's your theory on why no one has ever been able to video one ever then?

 

My "theory", fwiw (which is very little,) is that its a dimensional reason. If they exist, and I happen to believe that they do, my guess is that they exist in a dimension not normally accessible by us, and that it is only under certain very unusual circumstances that our paths happen to cross. Huxley suggested something along those lines in The Doors of Perception, which I read long after I had my particular experience of one.

[Matthew Le God]

My "theory", fwiw (which is very little,) is that its a dimensional reason. If they exist, and I happen to believe that they do, my guess is that they exist in a dimension not normally accessible by us, and that it is only under certain very unusual circumstances that our paths happen to cross.

 

1) Do you believe only humans have ghosts?

 

If so, where do you draw the line between humans and their ancestors and relations in the animal kingdom throughout history?

 

2) On what evidence do you base your guess of ghosts being in parallel dimensions?

 

3) Why do you think ghosts being real is the more likely explanation of your "experience with a ghost" as opposed to your mind or something/someone else playing tricks on you?

Edited 5 September, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[Dog]

Adults believing in ghosts-

 

 

 

Edited 5 September, 2011 by Dog

[Matthew Le God]

Dog (and anyone else that believes in ghosts),

 

Can you please answer questions 1 and 3 in post #134?

Edited 5 September, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[saintscottofthenortham]

Dog (and anyone else that believes in ghosts),

 

Can you please answer questions 1 and 3 in post #134?

 

You must be one boring c*nt to go for a beer with.

 

"Oi Oi Savaloy, I would smash her back gate right in!"

 

MLT: "How do you know she has a back gate? Statistics show that blah blah percent of females actually reside in flats, without taking into account that blah blah percent of properties don't actually have access to the rear of the property, leaving blah blah blah f*****g blah percent of properties that do contain rear access the chances are she doesn't live in one. So no, you propably are not going to smash her back gate in."

 

*MLT looks around to find previously full pub, empty.*

[Matthew Le God]

You must be one boring c*nt to go for a beer with.

 

"Oi Oi Savaloy, I would smash her back gate right in!"

 

MLT: "How do you know she has a back gate? Statistics show that blah blah percent of females actually reside in flats, without taking into account that blah blah percent of properties don't actually have access to the rear of the property, leaving blah blah blah f*****g blah percent of properties that do contain rear access the chances are she doesn't live in one. So no, you propably are not going to smash her back gate in."

 

*MLT looks around to find previously full pub, empty.*

 

This is a debate on a public forum that Dog started about ghosts, unless people are questioned about their belief in the supernatural they won't look any deeper. Until humanity overcomes prehistoric and bronze age beliefs in this kind of thing (along with religion) mankind's growth is stunted.

 

Are you saying people shouldn't question others when they make supernatural claims? Should we all just take every myth and supernatural event someone tells us as true, or should we not delve deeper and see if there is any substance to it?

 

tbh I don't care if you think I'm boring, but to not question claims such as these is taking us back hundreds, if not thousands of years in human development.

[scott_saints]

I never understand why people WANT to believe the ridiculous theories over the more rational ones.

 

When I was a younger I reckon I saw a ghost once, and heard a ghost once. I then got older and realised that the idea of a ghost is ridiculous.

[shurlock]

This is a debate on a public forum that Dog started about ghosts, unless people are questioned about their belief in the supernatural they won't look any deeper. Until humanity overcomes prehistoric and bronze age beliefs in this kind of thing (along with religion) mankind's growth is stunted.

 

Are you saying people shouldn't question others when they make supernatural claims? Should we all just take every myth and supernatural event someone tells us as true, or should we not delve deeper and see if there is any substance to it?

 

tbh I don't care if you think I'm boring, but to not question claims such as these is taking us back hundreds, if not thousands of years in human development.

 

 

A truly noble cause. I can hear the wheels of the Enlightenment and Judeo-Christian civilisation screeching off course as we speak.

[Dig Dig]

I never understand why people WANT to believe the ridiculous theories over the more rational ones.

 

When I was a younger I reckon I saw a ghost once, and heard a ghost once. I then got older and realised that the idea of a ghost is ridiculous.

 

Yep. I don't doubt that people who say they have seen a ghost actually believe they did. But I think this is driven by the want to believe it's true coupled with the human minds ability to make you see/hear things which are not there. The mind is more powerful than we can comprehend.

[Matthew Le God]

I can hear the wheels of the Enlightenment and Judeo-Christian civilisation screeching off course as we speak.

 

Things like the Catholic church's policy on abortion isn't exactly helpful to mankind and also very hypocritical given that between 30 - 50% (some believe even more than that) of all fertilised eggs are killed naturally in the womb without human interference. God (if he were to exist) is the biggest abortionist of them all!

[Nessy7]

I'm guessing that this thread may be a joke, but the comment about something on your shoulder and arm reminded me of this; http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A6092471. This happened to me once a few years ago and is horrible!!!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

1) Do you believe only humans have ghosts?

 

If so, where do you draw the line between humans and their ancestors and relations in the animal kingdom throughout history?

 

2) On what evidence do you base your guess of ghosts being in parallel dimensions?

 

3) Why do you think ghosts being real is the more likely explanation of your "experience with a ghost" as opposed to your mind or something/someone else playing tricks on you?

 

1) No, but they are far less common due to animals not having the intelligence to have 'demons' and thus not creating the negative atmosphere needed.

 

3) It's not more likely, but it could happen.

[Matthew Le God]

1) No, but they are far less common due to animals not having the intelligence to have 'demons' and thus not creating the negative atmosphere needed.

 

So what about the numerous human ancestors and related groups? Neanderthals for examples had speech, art, intelligence etc. Or Homo Erectus, or Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Floresiensis etc etc etc many living at the same time as modern man. Do they have ghosts? Where do you draw the line?

 

3) It's not more likely, but it could happen.

 

On what evidence do you base it "could happen"?

 

My point was that people leap to the conclusion "its a ghost" and overlook more plausible reasons for an experience they have.

Edited 5 September, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

You must be one boring c*nt to go for a beer with.

 

"Oi Oi Savaloy, I would smash her back gate right in!"

 

MLT: "How do you know she has a back gate? Statistics show that blah blah percent of females actually reside in flats, without taking into account that blah blah percent of properties don't actually have access to the rear of the property, leaving blah blah blah f*****g blah percent of properties that do contain rear access the chances are she doesn't live in one. So no, you propably are not going to smash her back gate in."

 

*MLT looks around to find previously full pub, empty.*

 

 

However, your post addresses a character called "MLT" which one would take to mean (in the context of this forum) Matthew Le Tissier, who once played, arguably extremely well, for Southampton.

 

If you are still desirous to poke fun at Matthew Le God, I suggest that you rephrase your post to refer to MLG instead of MLT.

[aintforever]

My "theory", fwiw (which is very little,) is that its a dimensional reason. If they exist, and I happen to believe that they do, my guess is that they exist in a dimension not normally accessible by us, and that it is only under certain very unusual circumstances that our paths happen to cross. Huxley suggested something along those lines in The Doors of Perception, which I read long after I had my particular experience of one.

 

My problem is that wether there is another dimension or not people say they have SEEN or HEARD ghosts. There is no mystery behind why we see or hear things, it's just sound & light which can be caught on camera as, if not more, easily as it sensed by us.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

So what about the numerous human ancestors and related groups? Neanderthals for examples had speech, art, intelligence etc. Or Homo Erectus, or Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Floresiensis etc etc etc many living at the same time as modern man. Do they have ghosts? Where do you draw the line?

 

Why do I have to draw a line? Ghosts tend to hang around until that environment is destroyed (knocking a house down etc).

 

On what evidence do you base it "could happen"?

This thread.

[Matthew Le God]

Why do I have to draw a line?

 

Because otherwise it opens the way for every creature within the last 3.7 billion years to have a ghost.

 

Ghosts tend to hang around until that environment is destroyed (knocking a house down etc).

 

How do you know that?

 

This thread.

 

What in this thread?

[saintscottofthenortham]

 

However, your post addresses a character called "MLT" which one would take to mean (in the context of this forum) Matthew Le Tissier, who once played, arguably extremely well, for Southampton.

 

If you are still desirous to poke fun at Matthew Le God, I suggest that you rephrase your post to refer to MLG instead of MLT.

 

Haha! Just found that my iPhone corrects MLG to MLT. But yes, I meant MLG.

[saintscottofthenortham]

This is a debate on a public forum that Dog started about ghosts, unless people are questioned about their belief in the supernatural they won't look any deeper. Until humanity overcomes prehistoric and bronze age beliefs in this kind of thing (along with religion) mankind's growth is stunted.

 

Are you saying people shouldn't question others when they make supernatural claims? Should we all just take every myth and supernatural event someone tells us as true, or should we not delve deeper and see if there is any substance to it?

 

tbh I don't care if you think I'm boring, but to not question claims such as these is taking us back hundreds, if not thousands of years in human development.

 

I'm not questioning your argument, just pointing out the fact that no matter what subject you talk about, you are a boring c*nt in doing so.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Because otherwise it opens the way for every creature within the last 3.7 billion years to have a ghost.

 

 

 

How do you know that?

 

 

 

What in this thread?

 

With reference to my previous post, this proves my point.

[Matthew Le God]

I'm not questioning your argument, just pointing out the fact that no matter what subject you talk about, you are a boring c*nt in doing so.

 

If you hadn't realised already, calling me a "boring c***" won't change my posts. If anything it says more about you, in that you feel the need to use petty insults against a person you don't like on the internet. If you dislike my posts that much, put me on your ignore list and you won't need to read them.

Edited 5 September, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[saintscottofthenortham]

If you hadn't realised already, calling me a "boring c***" won't change my posts. If anything it says more about you, in that you feel the need to use petty insults against a person you don't like on the internet. If you dislike my posts that much, put me on your ignore list and you won't need to read them.

 

Good idea.

[Smirking_Saint]

For what its worth MLG it is humans that dismiss things out of hand as stupid and prehistoric that will stunt us and hold us back, if you do not identify and investigate the unexplained then you will never uncover truths that we never knew existed.

 

See the theory about the earth 100's of years back.

 

Untill you give me a fool proof and completely water tight reason why ghosts and the supernatural cannot and do not exist then I am afraid I will keep on believing that they might.

 

Your problem is you live too much in the black and white, wrong and right when very often the truth lies in the middle. Until you grasp that not everything they teach in the schools is gospel then you will never get that.

 

Sigh

 

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