View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Unrealistic as it may sound if he's available for that sort of money and is being linked to Blackburn and QPR then we should go for it. Yes wages would be an issue and yes he'll want to stay in the EPL but Blackburn and QPR? With him on the bus we could well be replacing them next season. Que usual FFS comments but you know it makes sense.
SuperMikey Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 However much of a brilliant signing he would be, there's f*ck all chance of it happening - wasn't he being linked to Arsenal and Liverpool earlier in the transfer window?
Tom28 Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 If he's available for that amount of money, its a no brainer putting in an offer in my opinion. I can't see it myself though, Matt Mills at £5.5m will push Dann's value up way past that. I think Adkins would spend that amount of money of a defender. We are led to believe we're willing to spend that amount on a striker and Adkins' philosophy is 'defense wins championships' so he clearly sees the value in a solid defense. I'd rather we spend all the money on someone like Dann than a million here and there on 2-3 players, especially as I don't think we don't really need anything other than a CB, and I'm not even convinced we need that. .
scott_saints Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Yeah, 'cause he's bound to choose us over a prem team.
farawaysaint Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Arsenal were after him; somehow don't think there's any chance of this happening at all.
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Author Posted 30 August, 2011 The press are reporting that a £5m bid has been accepted from Blackburn. Get him on the bus!
Norm Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Umm, big decision to make here. Do I choose QPR who will pay me mega bucks (as we have sen with Barton @ £60k per week). Do I go to Blackburn who are desperate for any decent player and are willing to pay big bucks. Both teams in the Prem. or do I join Saints, who play in the Championship and won't be able/wan't to pay me as much as the two teams in the Prem. Umm, big decision to make here!
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 What a bollix thread, Why do people bother?
Huntingdon Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 I get nervous when posters say 'Let's break the bank' Yes, I want to get back to the PL, but I also never want to see us bottom of L1 with -10 points again I realise we have money, but I just hate the expression used
Sour Mash Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 I seem to be in the minority, but surely we should have a fair bit of cash to spend? We need a top-draw centre back and if you need to go and pay the going rate for one than so be it.
Saint Garrett Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 He won't come and play in the NPC if he can play in the Premiership.
saints-cris Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Were doing better than Birmingham. Therefore its a step up for the lad. Get him in..!
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Author Posted 30 August, 2011 I seem to be in the minority, but surely we should have a fair bit of cash to spend? We need a top-draw centre back and if you need to go and pay the going rate for one than so be it. The children don't understand that concept.
Gingeletiss Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 I get nervous when posters say 'Let's break the bank' Yes, I want to get back to the PL, but I also never want to see us bottom of L1 with -10 points again I realise we have money, but I just hate the expression used Do we? that's what loads on here assume, but it's not true. It has been stated on several occasions, well documented, that we would be run properly. Yet still we have posters wanting us to 'break the bank'....laughable imo.
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Author Posted 30 August, 2011 No, just the minority that thinks that's enough. We could get a bid accepted for dann. That's all. Wages and premiership football is where we're lacking so the chances become nil. If we're going to blame Adkins/cortese for not signing players like this then they don't stand a chance. In you little world that may be happening, but not in the real world. Strange how folk want Saints to show intent and buy players that can take us up but then go all girly when someone suggests, tongue in cheek, that they actually do that.
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Author Posted 30 August, 2011 Do we? that's what loads on here assume, but it's not true. It has been stated on several occasions, well documented, that we would be run properly. Yet still we have posters wanting us to 'break the bank'....laughable imo. Not surprised that you don't get it. Never been the sharpest tool in the box.
Sour Mash Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 No, just the minority that thinks that's enough. We could get a bid accepted for dann. That's all. Wages and premiership football is where we're lacking so the chances become nil. If we're going to blame Adkins/cortese for not signing players like this then they don't stand a chance. Don't think anyone is 'blaming' Adkins/Cortese for not signing players like Dann, but a top quality centre could be worth their weight in gold to us this season. I've seen all our league games so far and it is definitely an area of weakness - I'd speculate at it possibly being one of the few things that may currently be standing between us and Prem football, but we'll have to just wait and see.......
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Don't think anyone is 'blaming' Adkins/Cortese for not signing players like Dann, but a top quality centre could be worth their weight in gold to us this season. I've seen all our league games so far and it is definitely an area of weakness - I'd speculate at it possibly being one of the few things that may currently be standing between us and Prem football, but we'll have to just wait and see....... I would agree with you there mate, our defending was exposed in the first half on saturday against a bit of pace and power. We are crying out for a powerful centre half and a better right back. We look strong in midfield and good going forward, but our weakness at the back could be costly if not addressed.
Jack Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Do we need a ridiculous new thread every time someone thinks we should sign a player from the PL, even without any reason to suspect we might be doing so? Danns will NOT leave Birmingham City to go to a team newly promoted into the NPC, when offers are coming in from the prem. Why would he?
dockland Dave Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Do we need a ridiculous new thread every time someone thinks we should sign a player from the PL, even without any reason to suspect we might be doing so? Danns will NOT leave Birmingham City to go to a team newly promoted into the NPC, when offers are coming in from the prem. Why would he? Totally right, the lad wants to play in the Prem. Can our fans start being realistic
dubai_phil Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Unrealistic as it may sound if he's available for that sort of money and is being linked to Blackburn and QPR then we should go for it. Yes wages would be an issue and yes he'll want to stay in the EPL but Blackburn and QPR? With him on the bus we could well be replacing them next season. Que usual FFS comments but you know it makes sense. There's an 840 page thread in the Lounge which explains why we should not break the bank That is before the mental impact on the TEAM is examined of having one player on treble the wages of everyone else. IF we start to become only about the money then others such as Lallana may start to think that way. We are about being a TEAM now, all for one and one for all going on a journey together. Anything that could damage that is insane as we'd end up demotivating players and losing our stars "just for money" rather than keeping them because of the craic & spirit.
Huntingdon Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Do we? that's what loads on here assume, but it's not true. It has been stated on several occasions, well documented, that we would be run properly. Yet still we have posters wanting us to 'break the bank'....laughable imo. I agree. We don't have the backing of Markus anymore. As you say, NC has made it clear we will be a properly run business. So, just how much do we have to spend from the sale of Chamberlain? I suspect it's nowhere near the £12M that 'View From The Top' is assuming
Wade Garrett Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 He's well overpriced. His agent has done a magnificent job leaking supposed interest from top teams. If he's worth £5m, then Fonte is worth £15m.
Raging Bull Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 If we're going to spend big money on players eg. Dann or/and Beckford we probably should be doing it now due to the new spending/income restrictions that are to be implemented.
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 He's well overpriced. His agent has done a magnificent job leaking supposed interest from top teams. If he's worth £5m, then Fonte is worth £15m. How do you work this out?
dune Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 No, just the minority that thinks that's enough. We could get a bid accepted for dann. That's all. Wages and premiership football is where we're lacking so the chances become nil. If we're going to blame Adkins/cortese for not signing players like this then they don't stand a chance. Every adrian i've ever met has impressed me with their astuteness and you no exception.
Flyer Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 The other point is why would Birmingham weaken themselves and strengthen a rival at the same time? Birmingham would want to sell to a PL team and probably wouldnt even accept an offer from Saints unless it was at least a million over what the PL teams would pay.
shurlock Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 £5m is relatively good value (at least compared with the transactions done in this window) for a position which desperately needs strengthening; but there's no way we could compete on wages and the prospect of prem football. If he did join, it would be a case for Fringe Division. Even as the deal with Cork showed, its a piece of p i $$ to have a bid accepted; getting players to agree to join is the hard part. They call the shots, especially when, like Danns, they are chased by numerous suitors. Still anyone who would want to play for Blackburn -whatever their premiership credentials- needs to take a long hard look at themselves.
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 £5m is relatively good value (at least compared with the transactions done in this window) for a position which desperately needs strengthening; but there's no way we could compete on wages and the prospect of prem football. If he did join, it would be a case for Fringe Division. Even as the deal with Cork showed, its a piece of p i $$ to have a bid accepted; getting players to agree to join is the hard part. They call the shots, especially when, like Danns, they are chased by numerous suitors. Still anyone who would want to play for Blackburn -whatever their premiership credentials- needs to take a long hard look at themselves. A premier league club in name only.
SNSUN Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Dann Dann he's our man, if he can't do it, Seaborne can. Work's dull today.
Wade Garrett Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 How do you work this out? It's not rocket science. Fonte, in my opinion, is a better player. Dann is overrated, and over-valued.
Monk Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 . . . and then there's his wages. at some point though, we will have to bring in a player who's quality will raise our wage budget.
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 (edited) It's not rocket science. Fonte, in my opinion, is a better player. Dann is overrated, and over-valued. Based on what? How often have you seen Danns play? He is a 24 year old English centre back with premier league experience and was linked with Liverpool & Arsenal not that long ago. How do you work out that Fonte, who cost £1m 18 months ago from a team near the bottom of the championship, is now worth £15m based on him being worth £5m? Edited 30 August, 2011 by Turkish
Gordon Mockles Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 What a bollix thread, Why do people bother? Cos it's a chat forum numb nuts! It does what it says on the tin. You don't like the heat...get out the kitchen with ya b*tchin' or contribute something worthwhile rather than berating those that want some discussion. *sigh* WOMEN!!
Dalek2003 Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 If we were going to break the bank we would have done so by now. Clearly this is not going to happen, we are being prudent and looking for players that offer value and long term investments. Trouble is that the English market is over inflated so we are probably looking abroad which is never easy !
miserableoldgit Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Is that really you Dalek?? Seems like a far too sensible post to be you.
Chez Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 He's well overpriced. His agent has done a magnificent job leaking supposed interest from top teams. If he's worth £5m, then Fonte is worth £15m. Really? Dann was outstanding in the Prem last season. Fonte was outstanding in league 1. Slight difference in opponent quality.
Aardvark Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Do we need a ridiculous new thread every time someone thinks we should sign a player from the PL, even without any reason to suspect we might be doing so? Danns will NOT leave Birmingham City to go to a team newly promoted into the NPC, when offers are coming in from the prem. Why would he? Yes, will people please please refrain from posting hypothetical discussion topics on an internet chat forum!? Good grief, what is the world coming to?
Jack Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 I've heard that Carlos Tevez could be available for £50 million plus £150,000 p/w wages. Is this realistic/relevant enough to warrant a new thread? I just don't see the point in clogging up the forum with several threads about players who are obviously not going to come here. I think we should have one for all of these dreamers to post their hypothetical suggestions. Give me 5 minutes and I'll start one
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Author Posted 30 August, 2011 I've heard that Carlos Tevez could be available for £50 million plus £150,000 p/w wages. Is this realistic/relevant enough to warrant a new thread? I just don't see the point in clogging up the forum with several threads about players who are obviously not going to come here. I think we should have one for all of these dreamers to post their hypothetical suggestions. Give me 5 minutes and I'll start one Bless, you're so sweet and so naive.
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 He will not stay in the championship, It would be a waste of resources even trying for him. Time is tight - we need to focus on realistic targets.
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2011 Author Posted 30 August, 2011 He will not stay in the championship, It would be a waste of resources even trying for him. Time is tight - we need to focus on realistic targets. Such as? The great unwashed have been clamouring for a big signing that shows our intent and is EPL ready. Dann's is. Yes, of course I know it's totally left field but a CB of that quality is, to me, the difference between promotion and another season in the NPC.
Jack Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Bless, you're so sweet and so naive. How does being realistic make me naive?
Aardvark Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 How does being realistic make me naive? You're happy with "sweet" then?
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Why not go the whole hog and hi-jack arsenals bid for mertesacker instead? Only 10m, the right age and 6 ft 6...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Cos it's a chat forum numb nuts! It does what it says on the tin. You don't like the heat...get out the kitchen with ya b*tchin' or contribute something worthwhile rather than berating those that want some discussion. *sigh* WOMEN!!Thankyou Gordon, I can now place you in the box marked ' Hysterical deluded mongs'
SNSUN Posted 30 August, 2011 Posted 30 August, 2011 Really? Dann was outstanding in the Prem last season. Fonte was outstanding in league 1. Slight difference in opponent quality. While I agree with your point, Palace fans still miss Fonte, according to my mate who's a Palarse fan, so he must've done a good job at this level before we signed him. Dann would be quality, but this rumour has as much of a chance of coming true as we had of signing Michael Owen.
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