dubai_phil Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 OK, so yesterday NA made a switch at HT and we proceeded to "tear Leicester a new one". Cork went to RB & Morgan came into CM alongside Hammond. OK so we didn't score but on another day could have had 3 or 4 second half by the commentary & reports. Was Morgan the difference? Cork has seriously impressed me in the televised game and the radio commentaries, Hammond has without doubt been worth his place. Was the turn-around down to Guly being given a kick to provide more cover? Did Cork make us feel more secure than with Richardson there? Was Morgan more creative than Cork? Or ws it all down to SGE being a wimp and coming over all cautious at HT? Not having seen the game, but being one who thinks you should have your best players on the pitch whenever you can... What would you do against Forest? Start with Cork & RB & Morgan in the Middle? I would, and with Fox at LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 I wouldn't. Cork is our best midfielder so why wouldn't we play him in his best position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Cork was our best player in the middle in the first half. He's wasted at RB. Very tough decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 It would be like playing Surman/Skacel at left back all over again. Play the players in their natural/best positions and the results will follow. We don't need to put square pegs in round holes, if we want a new RB I'm sure we'll buy one. Just as we did at left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Having listened to a bit of the post match phone in on Leicester Player (is that what it is called?) most of the callers were slagging off Sven for changing from 4 4 2 to 4 3 3 in the 2nd half which handed us the midfield and pushed Schlupp (?) into isolation out wide, so maybe a combination of the 2 changes for us and them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Other than Lallana Cork imo opinion has been our best player this season at CM so I personally dont think it would be a good decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Couldn't Cork play in midfield but on the right of a diamond (where Guly is), thereby freeing up space for Morgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Couldn't Cork play in midfield but on the right of a diamond (where Guly is), thereby freeing up space for Morgan? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2011 It would be like playing Surman/Skacel at left back all over again. Play the players in their natural/best positions and the results will follow. We don't need to put square pegs in round holes, if we want a new RB I'm sure we'll buy one. Just as we did at left back. But didn't Chelsea see him as mainly a defender? So nobody thinks that Morgan had an impact on our second half performance then? As for a new RB, think those of us who watched the Academy game will have noticed we should have one ready by mid season latest who looks the real deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 no. Why not? Chaplow's done it. . Why can't Cork, especially as he can play RB and is a better player than Chaplow. The position doesn't require magical wingplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 But didn't Chelsea see him as mainly a defender? So nobody thinks that Morgan had an impact on our second half performance then? I think he did, but Leicesters change of formation allowed us to express ourselves a little more too, so we got more of the ball. I think we're bloody fortunate to have Cork, Deano, Morgan and Chappers as our 4 midfield options. It's up there with the best in the league, and I'm sure NA will call it right when it needs to be changed and all of those players will get a fair amount of chance over the season, in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Why not? Chaplow's done it. Why can't Cork, especially as he can play RB and is a better player than Chaplow. chaplow does it (or has done it this season) to see the game out, to shore up the wing.. we have two creative/offensive players that drift all over the place from the wide positions..that is not what jack cork is all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 I would play Cork and Schneiderlin in the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Cork and Morgan in the centre for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2011 I would play Cork and Schneiderlin in the centre. But then Hammond has been covering a whole ot of miles and carrying out some of the on-field leadership. Would we miss the "wise head"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2011 What a marvelous problem to have this season though, compare that to the Gillett/James/Wotton/Gobern choice of a couple of years ago (alongside Morgan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 But then Hammond has been covering a whole ot of miles and carrying out some of the on-field leadership. Would we miss the "wise head"? It would be harsh on Hammond granted, and even Chaplow. For me there is the option to rotate the four. Cork is captain material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 chaplow does it (or has done it this season) to see the game out, to shore up the wing.. we have to creative/offensive players that drift all over the place from the wide positions..that is not what jack cork is all about Think Cork can play box-to-box and get forward usefully while providing us cover on the flanks where we have sometimes come unstuck against a standard 4-4-2. The irony is that Guly has often been occuping similar spaces to Cork in matches dropping quite deep and central. I would also experiment with De Ridder instead of Connolly letting him run the left and right channels, providing us with extra width. It all depends on what you think of Morgan, whether you think he's worth a start (hard to drop Cork and Hammond at the moment) and whether you think he has it in his locker to get forward (I think he does). From being an Achilles Heel of sorts last sseaon, all of a sudden, our midfield now looks the strongest area of our squad. Shame that one of our midfielders has to lose out. Just a thought; not necessarily what I would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 I think he did, but Leicesters change of formation allowed us to express ourselves a little more too, so we got more of the ball. I think we're bloody fortunate to have Cork, Deano, Morgan and Chappers as our 4 midfield options. It's up there with the best in the league, and I'm sure NA will call it right when it needs to be changed and all of those players will get a fair amount of chance over the season, in CM. Sven changed from his normal diamond formation to two banks of 4, which had the desired effect of stopping us passing through them. We just never got to grips with it in the first half for what ever reason. But as Sven said, he had already changed things over before the end of the first half and things were still working fine for them then. I would guess we then made the change which made the difference, mainly the weakness their forwards exposed in Richardson. Before getting on the back of Richardson, it's worth remembering that he won't have such a torrid time against most of this division. I like the way Brighton play, making sure they are sound defensively in the midfield before they start committing forward. I feel we just exposed ourselves to early against Leicester when it was not necessary to do so. Cork is normally MOM when played in the middle so it is a difficult choice to move him to right back. But if that improves the team, surely there can be no argument as when Adkins did this on Saturday? If I were to go for another RB, McNaughton of Cardiff looks quality. There are more than one way to solve this problem, a pacey lone striker behind a sound defensive shield could work better, even with the existing defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Sorry to say this but it's gotta be jack & Morgan in the middle. As much as I love dean he ain't as good as them two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybeal Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Yes - for the next few games play Morgan and Hammond in the middle and Cork at right back - I went to the game and we instantly had much more cut and thrust down the right hand side. Cork and De Ridder were on the same wavelength from the word go. I accept its not a long term solution but it means that we can play Schneiderlin , Cork and Hammond in the team and we looked good. Richardson (imo) is not up to the job (nor is Butterfield ) and we need a new right back. Also play Fox instead of Hammond who in the last 2 games has been rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Sorry to say this but it's gotta be jack & Morgan in the middle. As much as I love dean he ain't as good as them two. They may be our best two CMs on paper, but are they the most effective pairing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 I went yesterday and it worked very well. Cork is a fantastic right back, very good in the tackle and we all know Morgan's talent. When we have both of them in the team the passing ability of the whole team overall goes up. Also, with Cork at right back, De Ridder was able to storm forward more knowing he had a quality defender behind him. Lets face it both of the regular right backs are lower Championship level. I would give it a go, just to raise the over all level of the starting 11. If we get a quality right back in the future or we miss Cork being in the middle then re-evaluate but it is definitely worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 August, 2011 Share Posted 28 August, 2011 Perhaps Cork doesn't want to play at RB, if he did then I don't think NA would have sacrificed a decent midfielder (or two) and allowed an oft abysmal right back to keep the position. Richardson was iffy last season, why should he be any different this season, so it's obvious that Cork wants to play in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 29 August, 2011 Share Posted 29 August, 2011 Cork and Morgan. Give them a few games together and watch our game hit another level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 August, 2011 Share Posted 29 August, 2011 Why not? Chaplow's done it. . Why can't Cork, especially as he can play RB and is a better player than Chaplow. The position doesn't require magical wingplay. No, you're right in one respect - it doesn't. But Cork is a very creative player, and would be wasted at RB (although I'd like to see Morgan in the line-up, too.) The RIGHT BACK should be a tough, no nonsense type with " NONE SHALL PASS " tatooed on his chest ! He should have pace enough to keep up with a speedy winger, and not need a GPS to find his way back - if he occasionally wanders over the half way line in an attacking frenzy. Sorry ! but Jack Cork, at least, is best where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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