anyway back for Puncheon

[Tac-tics]

Maybe a poll?

 

Simple as that?

 

I would like to see him back on the bench.

[scott_saints]

A player that can perform reasonably well in the premier league? Why would we want that?

[Saint_Jonny]

Obviously has quality and I'm not one to hold grudges against Saints players to be honest, wouldn't bother me if he was in the squad on Saturday. Can't even remember why everyone dislikes him now...?

[Saint Garrett]

Good player when he wants to, clearly doesnt fit into the mentality which NA has infixed into our squad. We don't know whats gone on, but there are clear issues. If our coaching staff doesnt want him here, then neither do it. good riddance.

[Tac-tics]

because apparently he's a cvnt, would of that thats a bit obvious.

 

might ruin the team bus mentality???

[dronskisaint]

If Barton can play for Newcastle then I suppose it's true that no matter how big a knut you are if you're good enough you'll play.

 

However Saints seem to have a settled and happy squad (unlike Newcastle) and Puncheon's not as good a Barton so it seems unlikely.

 

Did I mention that Barton is a knut?

[farawaysaint]

Don't want any disruptive influences no matter how good especially if they think they're better than the team as Punch does.

[Foxstone]

Much depends on Puncheon and how much he wants to "fit in and behave"..

 

If he can and NA is persuaded by him then of course there is a way back, but if not then he will remain avaialble to others if they want him.

[Appy]

No way.

[Gemmel]

Just turning it around for a second, we blocked a move to Tottenham, Blackpool and are holding out for more money from QPR, that could cost him that move as well.

 

I'm not sure we are his favorite people right now.

 

The bridges have been burnt at both ends and there is no room on the bus for wounded egos

[CanadaSaint]

If Adkins and Cortese want him gone that's more than enough for me, pretty much regardless of how good he is/thinks he is/could be.

 

They have a very good thing going inside that dressing room - something that teams work years to create - and it would be madness to risk it.

[LGTL]

He is clearly good enough but it just won't happen. End of.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Don't want any disruptive influences no matter how good especially if they think they're better than the team as Punch does.

 

Is there any evidence/reports/facts etc that he thinks he is better than the team? Apologies if i have missed this.

[Clifford Nelson]

Remember "Together as One", which is another way of saying "being on the bus". If you don't want to be part of what is going on at this football club, then you have no role to play at all. Bringing everybody together with good attitudes and common goals is what NA is especially good at, so let's not dream about sticking a wrongun in, whether they've played in the PL or not.

 

It is highly unlikely that we will be able to compete with the top clubs on money, so we need to try other avenues.

[Give it to Ron]

A player that can perform reasonably well in the premier league? Why would we want that?

 

Premiership clubs are not exactly in a hurry to sign this player though are they?

[St Chalet]

I liked him as a player. If he could become humble, accept he was an arse and Nigel could forgive him we could take him back.

 

Unlikely to happen, so therefore I don't think there is anyway back, he still has about 85 league clubs without any of his baggage.

[Golden Balls]

If he could sort the attitude then yes

 

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem possible

[Thedelldays]

lets just say he comes out and says he wants to give his all for the club and shows that if/when he gets on the pitch..then yes

[St Marco]

The thing is people forget that he was picked in the team of the year after a good season with us. That year he did not moan and complain. He seemed to work with Pardew.

 

For me it seems more about a dispute between Adkins and Puncheon. None of us really know what has happened or what he has said.

 

If he thinks he is too good to be here and is un-professional which leads to fractures is the team spirit then he should be gone.

 

But plenty of players have done similar things in the past and redeemed themselves on the pitch. If he can stand up and say he made a mistake, say sorry to the club,players and fans then he should be given a chance. He did well in the pl last year and did well when he went out on loan. He is a good player. If he however can't change his attitude then we are better off without him.

[SaintAndy14]

lets just say he comes out and says he wants to give his all for the club and shows that if/when he gets on the pitch..then yes

 

We are talking about Jason Puncheon right?

[View From The Top]

If he does it on the pitch then I've no problems.

[saintjay77]

Usually when a player falls out with a club they are shipped out ASAP. In the old days they would be sent train with the youth until they learn to fit in with the team. His best way to something better would be to train hard and earn a place in the team, do his job and be rewarded with a move somewhere else or a good contract with us.

 

I quite like the way the club have handled it, obviously something happened or he would be in the 1st team and not on the outskirts. So for the club to go back to old school tactics is quite refreshing. Its down to Puncheon to build the bridges if he so wishes. Seeing that he is getting games in the under 21 side is a good sign though.

 

If the management team decide he should be abck in the squad then I would be happy enough.

[lordswoodsaints]

It's a yes from me,as I've said before,it would be madness to dismiss a player that obviously can play a bit.....ok he probably has a bad attitude but every team in every league from MANU down has one or two players who upset a few people,why should we be any different?

it could turn out to be a good bit of business keeping hold of him.

[surrey1saint]

Part of me would like to think so,but I think he would need a lot of brain washing to turn him into a successful team player for us.

Edited 24 August, 2011 by surrey1saint

[DJ_TOAST]

Stupid thread / poll.

Adkins has made things clear why do people on here / the Echo not get it over and over. boring.

[Huntingdon]

We have no idea what actually went on between Punch and Nigel, so their differences might be impossible to solve

 

In saying that though, Puncheon turned out today for the virtual Reserves, he also put in a decent shift at Totton a few weeks back, so he's showing a decent attitude

If he was being an absolute tosser, he'd refuse to play in them

[Ohio Saint]

I voted yeas, but it's a very long stretch. If he can be sorted out, then fair enough. I don't see it happening though.

[Colbury]

No. Keep refusing offers and let him see out the remainder of his contract playing in the kids team.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

No, get rid at the earliest opportunity.

[SNSUN]

Billy Big Bum can bugger off. (God I love aliteration). He didn't want to play for us in League One, he thought he was better than that. Just because he now sees us moving in an upwards direction, he now wants in? Tough.

 

Don't want him here - sell him and spend the money on someone more worthwhile. Like a bonus for the catering staff.

[CanadaSaint]

There seems to be an assumption that Puncheon's problem is with Adkins, and I know that Adkins has been (for him) quite outspoken about the guy.

 

Is it possible that Cortese is more behind this? I know there was some anger on here about how Puncheon dressed for Markus's memorial service but I can't remember how much (if at all) he played after that. It seems to me that this supposed incident and Puncheon falling out of favour were quite close together.

[Colinjb]

Is it possible that Cortese is more behind this? I know there was some anger on here about how Puncheon dressed for Markus's memorial service but I can't remember how much (if at all) he played after that. It seems to me that this supposed incident and Puncheon falling out of favour were quite close together.

 

I believe that incident has been proven to be a myth, i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong.

 

Nonetheless I feel there is no way back for him, as said further up the thread the bridges seem to have been burnt both ways. A real shame as he has the individual talent to make a real impact... but the team is more important then one man.

[Windmill Arm 2]

Why isn't there an option in the poll titled ' NOT A ******* CHANCE, DISSAPEAR YOU ODIOUS DISRUPTIVE LITTLE KUNNT' ?

[ottery st mary]

Think he will be off soon......but if not...why not use a very talented player..

 

Then again only the Manager and CEO know if bridges will ever be rebuilt..

 

WIFM

[Saint Fan CaM]

Apart from the fact he has no desire to play well for Saints and that he potentially would keep De Ridder out the team, I can see no reason why. In other words - NO!

[Dalek2003]

I think Gadaffi has more chance of re-assuming control of Libya than Puncheon getting back in the Saints side !

[revolution saint]

I notice everyone who has said no has mentioned his attitude and not his ability. I don't know the guy from Adam so I'm not in a position to judge him on his attitude and certainly not to call him a cvnt. I'd certainly like him involved because I think he's got talent for whatever reason I think it's unlikely though.

[Crab Lungs]

Apart from the strop he had at Tranmere, what has he actually done to warrant being called a c()nt? People said he slagged us off in the papers, Talksport etc but he never did. If anything, he's been anything but a prima donna since he was consigned to the rubbish bin at Saints. He's trained and played with the kids and not squealed once about it to the media. AOC did, and yet he was not nearly treated with the same disdain.

[Colinjb]

I notice everyone who has said no has mentioned his attitude and not his ability. I don't know the guy from Adam so I'm not in a position to judge him on his attitude and certainly not to call him a cvnt. I'd certainly like him involved because I think he's got talent for whatever reason I think it's unlikely though.

 

I would say not everyone:

 

"Nonetheless I feel there is no way back for him, as said further up the thread the bridges seem to have been burnt both ways. A real shame as he has the individual talent to make a real impact... but the team is more important then one man."

[revolution saint]

I would say not everyone:

 

"Nonetheless I feel there is no way back for him, as said further up the thread the bridges seem to have been burnt both ways. A real shame as he has the individual talent to make a real impact... but the team is more important then one man."

 

That's an assumption though. My point was that based on ability I'd have him back and frankly ability is all any of us can comment on with any authority.

[Colinjb]

That's an assumption though. My point was that based on ability I'd have him back and frankly ability is all any of us can comment on with any authority.

 

True, but there is no smoke without fire. As you said without the full story an informed decision cannot be made, but with an incomplete story the same can be said.

 

Something is evidently not right with Punch here, there is more then enough circumstantial happenings to show that, why else would a league 1 side loan out a player capable of contributing to a premiership side? Therefore the story should be humanely ended for me.

Edited 24 August, 2011 by Colinjb

[revolution saint]

True, but there is no smoke without fire. As you said without the full story an informed decision cannot be made, but with an incomplete story the same can be said.

 

Something is evidently not right with Punch here, therefore the story should be humanely ended for me.

 

 

 

There will always be an incomplete picture if you want one to be there. How could I prove otherwise? I can't prove something that doesn't exist. I'm playing devil's advocate here but the argument doesn't stand up.

[saintjay77]

Maybe the question should be "IF Puncheon resolves his problems with the club and Adkins gave him a chance to get back in the squad and possibly the 1st team, would he be accepted back by the fans?"

 

Its never going to be down to us but some of the answers on this thread sound like the poll will decide if he comes back or not. If asked if I think there is a way back then its probably no, if there was a way back I would of thought it would of been last season. But if the club and him work things out then I would be happy to see him back and contributing. Even if on his part it was a way to put himself in the shop window. He is good enough to be in the squad based on ability so if Adkins gave him another chance then so would I.

[Verbal]

Blackpool are 'swooping' for him, according to the Grauniad, so this could all be academic.

[West End Saint]

I voted for him to come back into our squad subject to a massive change in his attitude he is a good player but he thinks he is better than he is but in this league he could be a great squad memeber if he can stop being a knob.

 

If he go's so be it I am not that concerned either way but if we can't sell or loan him at a deal right for Saints I hope we can get his head sorted & utilise him he is a decent Footballer