Tac-tics Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Maybe a poll? Simple as that? I would like to see him back on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 A player that can perform reasonably well in the premier league? Why would we want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Obviously has quality and I'm not one to hold grudges against Saints players to be honest, wouldn't bother me if he was in the squad on Saturday. Can't even remember why everyone dislikes him now...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Good player when he wants to, clearly doesnt fit into the mentality which NA has infixed into our squad. We don't know whats gone on, but there are clear issues. If our coaching staff doesnt want him here, then neither do it. good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2011 because apparently he's a cvnt, would of that thats a bit obvious. might ruin the team bus mentality??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 If Barton can play for Newcastle then I suppose it's true that no matter how big a knut you are if you're good enough you'll play. However Saints seem to have a settled and happy squad (unlike Newcastle) and Puncheon's not as good a Barton so it seems unlikely. Did I mention that Barton is a knut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Don't want any disruptive influences no matter how good especially if they think they're better than the team as Punch does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Much depends on Puncheon and how much he wants to "fit in and behave".. If he can and NA is persuaded by him then of course there is a way back, but if not then he will remain avaialble to others if they want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Just turning it around for a second, we blocked a move to Tottenham, Blackpool and are holding out for more money from QPR, that could cost him that move as well. I'm not sure we are his favorite people right now. The bridges have been burnt at both ends and there is no room on the bus for wounded egos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 If Adkins and Cortese want him gone that's more than enough for me, pretty much regardless of how good he is/thinks he is/could be. They have a very good thing going inside that dressing room - something that teams work years to create - and it would be madness to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 He is clearly good enough but it just won't happen. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Don't want any disruptive influences no matter how good especially if they think they're better than the team as Punch does. Is there any evidence/reports/facts etc that he thinks he is better than the team? Apologies if i have missed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Remember "Together as One", which is another way of saying "being on the bus". If you don't want to be part of what is going on at this football club, then you have no role to play at all. Bringing everybody together with good attitudes and common goals is what NA is especially good at, so let's not dream about sticking a wrongun in, whether they've played in the PL or not. It is highly unlikely that we will be able to compete with the top clubs on money, so we need to try other avenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 A player that can perform reasonably well in the premier league? Why would we want that? Premiership clubs are not exactly in a hurry to sign this player though are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I liked him as a player. If he could become humble, accept he was an arse and Nigel could forgive him we could take him back. Unlikely to happen, so therefore I don't think there is anyway back, he still has about 85 league clubs without any of his baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 If he could sort the attitude then yes Unfortunately, that doesn't seem possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 lets just say he comes out and says he wants to give his all for the club and shows that if/when he gets on the pitch..then yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 The thing is people forget that he was picked in the team of the year after a good season with us. That year he did not moan and complain. He seemed to work with Pardew. For me it seems more about a dispute between Adkins and Puncheon. None of us really know what has happened or what he has said. If he thinks he is too good to be here and is un-professional which leads to fractures is the team spirit then he should be gone. But plenty of players have done similar things in the past and redeemed themselves on the pitch. If he can stand up and say he made a mistake, say sorry to the club,players and fans then he should be given a chance. He did well in the pl last year and did well when he went out on loan. He is a good player. If he however can't change his attitude then we are better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 lets just say he comes out and says he wants to give his all for the club and shows that if/when he gets on the pitch..then yes We are talking about Jason Puncheon right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 If he does it on the pitch then I've no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Usually when a player falls out with a club they are shipped out ASAP. In the old days they would be sent train with the youth until they learn to fit in with the team. His best way to something better would be to train hard and earn a place in the team, do his job and be rewarded with a move somewhere else or a good contract with us. I quite like the way the club have handled it, obviously something happened or he would be in the 1st team and not on the outskirts. So for the club to go back to old school tactics is quite refreshing. Its down to Puncheon to build the bridges if he so wishes. Seeing that he is getting games in the under 21 side is a good sign though. If the management team decide he should be abck in the squad then I would be happy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 It's a yes from me,as I've said before,it would be madness to dismiss a player that obviously can play a bit.....ok he probably has a bad attitude but every team in every league from MANU down has one or two players who upset a few people,why should we be any different? it could turn out to be a good bit of business keeping hold of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 (edited) Part of me would like to think so,but I think he would need a lot of brain washing to turn him into a successful team player for us. Edited 24 August, 2011 by surrey1saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Stupid thread / poll. Adkins has made things clear why do people on here / the Echo not get it over and over. boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 We have no idea what actually went on between Punch and Nigel, so their differences might be impossible to solve In saying that though, Puncheon turned out today for the virtual Reserves, he also put in a decent shift at Totton a few weeks back, so he's showing a decent attitude If he was being an absolute tosser, he'd refuse to play in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I voted yeas, but it's a very long stretch. If he can be sorted out, then fair enough. I don't see it happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbury Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 No. Keep refusing offers and let him see out the remainder of his contract playing in the kids team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 No, get rid at the earliest opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Billy Big Bum can bugger off. (God I love aliteration). He didn't want to play for us in League One, he thought he was better than that. Just because he now sees us moving in an upwards direction, he now wants in? Tough. Don't want him here - sell him and spend the money on someone more worthwhile. Like a bonus for the catering staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 There seems to be an assumption that Puncheon's problem is with Adkins, and I know that Adkins has been (for him) quite outspoken about the guy. Is it possible that Cortese is more behind this? I know there was some anger on here about how Puncheon dressed for Markus's memorial service but I can't remember how much (if at all) he played after that. It seems to me that this supposed incident and Puncheon falling out of favour were quite close together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Is it possible that Cortese is more behind this? I know there was some anger on here about how Puncheon dressed for Markus's memorial service but I can't remember how much (if at all) he played after that. It seems to me that this supposed incident and Puncheon falling out of favour were quite close together. I believe that incident has been proven to be a myth, i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong. Nonetheless I feel there is no way back for him, as said further up the thread the bridges seem to have been burnt both ways. A real shame as he has the individual talent to make a real impact... but the team is more important then one man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Why isn't there an option in the poll titled ' NOT A ******* CHANCE, DISSAPEAR YOU ODIOUS DISRUPTIVE LITTLE KUNNT' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Think he will be off soon......but if not...why not use a very talented player.. Then again only the Manager and CEO know if bridges will ever be rebuilt.. WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Apart from the fact he has no desire to play well for Saints and that he potentially would keep De Ridder out the team, I can see no reason why. In other words - NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I think Gadaffi has more chance of re-assuming control of Libya than Puncheon getting back in the Saints side ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I notice everyone who has said no has mentioned his attitude and not his ability. I don't know the guy from Adam so I'm not in a position to judge him on his attitude and certainly not to call him a cvnt. I'd certainly like him involved because I think he's got talent for whatever reason I think it's unlikely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Apart from the strop he had at Tranmere, what has he actually done to warrant being called a c()nt? People said he slagged us off in the papers, Talksport etc but he never did. If anything, he's been anything but a prima donna since he was consigned to the rubbish bin at Saints. He's trained and played with the kids and not squealed once about it to the media. AOC did, and yet he was not nearly treated with the same disdain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I notice everyone who has said no has mentioned his attitude and not his ability. I don't know the guy from Adam so I'm not in a position to judge him on his attitude and certainly not to call him a cvnt. I'd certainly like him involved because I think he's got talent for whatever reason I think it's unlikely though. I would say not everyone: "Nonetheless I feel there is no way back for him, as said further up the thread the bridges seem to have been burnt both ways. A real shame as he has the individual talent to make a real impact... but the team is more important then one man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I would say not everyone: "Nonetheless I feel there is no way back for him, as said further up the thread the bridges seem to have been burnt both ways. A real shame as he has the individual talent to make a real impact... but the team is more important then one man." That's an assumption though. My point was that based on ability I'd have him back and frankly ability is all any of us can comment on with any authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 (edited) That's an assumption though. My point was that based on ability I'd have him back and frankly ability is all any of us can comment on with any authority. True, but there is no smoke without fire. As you said without the full story an informed decision cannot be made, but with an incomplete story the same can be said. Something is evidently not right with Punch here, there is more then enough circumstantial happenings to show that, why else would a league 1 side loan out a player capable of contributing to a premiership side? Therefore the story should be humanely ended for me. Edited 24 August, 2011 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 True, but there is no smoke without fire. As you said without the full story an informed decision cannot be made, but with an incomplete story the same can be said. Something is evidently not right with Punch here, therefore the story should be humanely ended for me. There will always be an incomplete picture if you want one to be there. How could I prove otherwise? I can't prove something that doesn't exist. I'm playing devil's advocate here but the argument doesn't stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Maybe the question should be "IF Puncheon resolves his problems with the club and Adkins gave him a chance to get back in the squad and possibly the 1st team, would he be accepted back by the fans?" Its never going to be down to us but some of the answers on this thread sound like the poll will decide if he comes back or not. If asked if I think there is a way back then its probably no, if there was a way back I would of thought it would of been last season. But if the club and him work things out then I would be happy to see him back and contributing. Even if on his part it was a way to put himself in the shop window. He is good enough to be in the squad based on ability so if Adkins gave him another chance then so would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Blackpool are 'swooping' for him, according to the Grauniad, so this could all be academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 25 August, 2011 Share Posted 25 August, 2011 I voted for him to come back into our squad subject to a massive change in his attitude he is a good player but he thinks he is better than he is but in this league he could be a great squad memeber if he can stop being a knob. If he go's so be it I am not that concerned either way but if we can't sell or loan him at a deal right for Saints I hope we can get his head sorted & utilise him he is a decent Footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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