spyinthesky Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Know it is wrong to bang on about our ex or nearly ex players but notice that young Anthony remains warming the bench at Aldershot (who havent exactly set the world on fire in Div 2) and Tommy has been relegated to reserve GK at Thurrock in some Sunday League type set up. I would really love to know the real circumstances behind their involvement at SFC. How could someone be so wrong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 why so much attention to these...we have had god awful players grace our club over the years...some even got first team action and probably took more money from the club... cant get the complete and utter obsession about these two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 why so much attention to these...we have had god awful players grace our club over the years...some even got first team action and probably took more money from the club... cant get the complete and utter obsession about these two It's because they are the last remnants of an era we all want to forget and move on from. Just to get rid of Forecast would alleviate depressing thoughts of that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 It's because they are the last remnants of an era we all want to forget and move on from. Just to get rid of Forecast would alleviate depressing thoughts of that man. well, I have moved on...having crap players at the club is something I have grown to accept with saints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Because in Forecast's case he's a woeful player who in very strange circumstances got given an extremely big wage on a very long term contract. I for one would like to know why, especially when we were avoiding playing experienced players for financial reasons. Add the fact he's a complete tosser and it gets quite annoying. woeful player..and would never get anywhere near the first team...has he ever been on the bench for a first team game say, more than twice...? these sorts of players are littered throughout god knows how many clubs.... even man u have players that leave them and very quickly end up at places like burton albion etc... fair enough, they are v poor players but its almost weekly they get their own threads.. what about harlee dean..? bet he never gets anywhere near the first team other than in pointless cup ties....will he be next...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 There's a huge difference. Crap players such as Jermaine Wright for example, may have been poor, but at least could do some job, or had enough ability to be deemed professional footballers, even in the past. Forecast is the first i've seen brought in on big money who isn't a crap footballer, he just isn't a footballer. His 'ability' is not semi-pro, it's nothing, he's a sunday league player at best and he's taken a huge amount of money from the club. Maybe it's football's fault or Lowe's fault, but it's still infuriating to watch such an unpleasant, talentless fckwit claim the salary of 4 doctors each year. where have you seen this.....? what are his wages then..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 woeful player..and would never get anywhere near the first team...has he ever been on the bench for a first team game say, more than twice...? these sorts of players are littered throughout god knows how many clubs.... even man u have players that leave them and very quickly end up at places like burton albion etc... fair enough, they are v poor players but its almost weekly they get their own threads.. what about harlee dean..? bet he never gets anywhere near the first team other than in pointless cup ties....will he be next...? Nah, because he's not an actual c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 There was this guy from Netherlands acting as Lowe's advisor on football. He told Lowe to get Forecast in and tie him to a long contract. Our Goalkeeper Coach at that time was heard to say soon after that Forecast would not make a professional goalkeeper, did not have a clue and was a waste of time. Soon after the coach was on gardening leave never to return. I think Pulis was the only way Lowe could offload the expensively paid injury that was Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 There was this guy from Netherlands acting as Lowe's advisor on football. He told Lowe to get Forecast in and tie him to a long contract. Our Goalkeeper Coach at that time was heard to say soon after that Forecast would not make a professional goalkeeper, did not have a clue and was a waste of time. Soon after the coach was on gardening leave never to return. I think Pulis was the only way Lowe could offload the expensively paid injury that was Davies. Wasn't that Malcolm Webster? One of Burleys coaches who was still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 where have you seen this.....? what are his wages then..? He's probably not on a huge contract in pay terms, but it's more the length that ****ed me off (5/6 years ffs!!!!). Even if he's lower paid that length of contract should set him up for a long time, even though he can't actually do the job he's employed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 why so much attention to these...we have had god awful players grace our club over the years...some even got first team action and probably took more money from the club... cant get the complete and utter obsession about these two I liked the jokes people make, like whenever we are linked with a player and he is worth, say £4m, someone usually came up with the quite brilliant gag, "make it £4.5m and Pulis" and other equally as funny one along them same lines. There were endless hilarious jokes involving these two that had me regularly in stitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 why so much attention to these...we have had god awful players grace our club over the years...some even got first team action and probably took more money from the club... cant get the complete and utter obsession about these two I find it quite interesting although I'm not sure why. I guess it's because they seemed bad signings and did have a bit of hype around them, as well as money spent on them. Take Pulis - didn't he cost 250K? That's the price of a reasonable house, now I'm not saying I'd rather a modest two up two down played in midfield instead of Pulis but.......well actually I am suggesting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 He's probably not on a huge contract in pay terms, but it's more the length that ****ed me off (5/6 years ffs!!!!). Even if he's lower paid that length of contract should set him up for a long time, even though he can't actually do the job he's employed for. Being reduced to Thurrock's reserve kinda says all you need to know about Forecast ! As a keeper himself I would love to know what NA really thinks of him :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 There was this guy from Netherlands acting as Lowe's advisor on football. He told Lowe to get Forecast in and tie him to a long contract. Our Goalkeeper Coach at that time was heard to say soon after that Forecast would not make a professional goalkeeper, did not have a clue and was a waste of time. Soon after the coach was on gardening leave never to return. To embellish this slightly, the GK coach was asked by Lowe to go and watch Forecast at a Spurs ressie game. Coach said that it was his job to know all GKs and could recommend many before Forecast and didn't go to Spurs ressies' game. Forecast got a 5 year contract, GK coach was off loaded. All part of the parallel universe that we existed within when that retirement homes expertran our great club (into the ground) Long live The Don ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 And to tink we gave them long contracts when we were heading for admin, meant to be doing things on the cheap and couldn't afford to keep our own Drew Surman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 I guess we're talking about a board that gave Simon Clifford 300k per year for very little work, so maybe we should be thankful it wasn't more. And the same board that gave SCW £1M per year for a similarly pitiful effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 It's because they are the last remnants of an era we all want to forget and move on from. Just to get rid of Forecast would alleviate depressing thoughts of that man. The funny thing is, you're not moving on at all if you keep bring them up though, are you? (not you personally, but people in general) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornseySaintsFan Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 we were so desperate to sell bale and davies respectively, we were forced to take them in exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Wasn't that Malcolm Webster? One of Burleys coaches who was still around? And to continue the link, wasn't it Webster's cheque that bounced, forcing us in to admin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 (edited) I think alot of the time it`s jobs for the boys and not what you know but who you know (or poss in some cases IS what you know nudge nudge wink wink) Family, Friends, Agents and the like . Thats why so many P1ss poor players make a good buck for doing Naff all, Deep down Football really is a grubby bent little game out to mug off the Average Working class man. Edited 23 August, 2011 by sfc1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 And to continue the link, wasn't it Webster's cheque that bounced, forcing us in to admin? No, that was Keith Granger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 It's not even like he's a decent bloke, the world would be a much better place if someone took him off to a deserted island and gave his wages to charity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Thurrock play in blue sq. South. Same league as Salisbury. They lost 4-0 tonight. Holloway was in goal for Thurrock, so Four-past couldn't even make it into their first team. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 (edited) Know it is wrong to bang on about our ex or nearly ex players but notice that young Anthony remains warming the bench at Aldershot (who havent exactly set the world on fire in Div 2) and Tommy has been relegated to reserve GK at Thurrock in some Sunday League type set up. I would really love to know the real circumstances behind their involvement at SFC. How could someone be so wrong!! According to my reading of those situations; ANTHONY PULIS. There were strong rumours that his dad (Stoke manager) was going to take over as manager in the scramble following our relegation / liquidation period. Having "someone else " sign him (rather than a manager sign his own son) is more acceptable to fans, I suppose. I can't believe that sentiment or any " old boy's network " would put through such a deal for any other reason. TOMMY FOURPAST. Simple! we were conned by Spurs ! Coming in the wake of the Gareth Bale deal, TF was floated as a very promising youngster capable of becoming " a future England keeper ". LOL as many times as you wish, but Saints bought the idea, and gave him a 5 year contract? ..UNBELIEVEABLE. I can't either believe that his " totally unacceptable public behaviour " and complete lack of basic goalkeeping skills had gone unnoticed to the Spurs Board and they must have been overjoyed to see the back of him, and get some of the Bale fee back at the same time. We have a good record of selling players to Spurs; Chivers, Richards, Bale but I would never buy one again- especially from ' arry. The sad thing is, unlike the Ali Dia fiasco, the long-term contracts that the (above two) have with SFC are purely a drain on the club resources, and the club groundsman has a better chance of being selected to play than they did - at least he's spent more time and energy on the pitch. Edited 24 August, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Just one point on the above. Pulis had a contract he doesn't now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Just one point on the above. Pulis had a contract he doesn't now. of course, in his case (had). But it was a costly investment for absolutely no return. For that money we might have retained one of our more of our promising youth players, instead of having to release them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 3 September, 2011 Share Posted 3 September, 2011 Why did he only play 10 mins today? Injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 people did well out of these deals, that's why they were done.£ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 And to tink we gave them long contracts when we were heading for admin, meant to be doing things on the cheap and couldn't afford to keep our own Drew Surman The only reason we managed to keep Surman as long as we did was because we off loaded Davies. Davies was crocked when he left and I don't know if he is back to full fitness now, but he was of just as great value to Stoke as Forecast has been to us. Pulis is equally useless but I would say the best bit of business we did all of that season, enabling us to get £1.25M for Davies. The Davies deal was one of the best pieces of transfer dealing Saints have done considering all the implications and that includes having to take Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 Thurrock play in blue sq. South. Same league as Salisbury. They lost 4-0 tonight. Holloway was in goal for Thurrock, so Four-past couldn't even make it into their first team. Says it all really. The bad news is that this time next week TF will in all likelihood be back with Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 And the same board that gave SCW £1M per year for a similarly pitiful effort. IF we did not have so many dinosaurs at our club at the time then the appointment of SCW could have been a good one. He transformed England rugby from also rans to World Champions by using training methods and ideas from several different sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 IF we did not have so many dinosaurs at our club at the time then the appointment of SCW could have been a good one. He transformed England rugby from also rans to World Champions by using training methods and ideas from several different sports. Indeed, I know it gets a lot of stick but the training methods he brought in are being used in sevral sports now and wouldn't be surprised if more than a few football clubs have adopted similar training programs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 The only reason we managed to keep Surman as long as we did was because we off loaded Davies. Davies was crocked when he left and I don't know if he is back to full fitness now, but he was of just as great value to Stoke as Forecast has been to us. Pulis is equally useless but I would say the best bit of business we did all of that season, enabling us to get £1.25M for Davies. The Davies deal was one of the best pieces of transfer dealing Saints have done considering all the implications and that includes having to take Pulis. Stoke signing Andrew Davies was not contingent on Saints signing Pulis (well placed source inside the Club when I asked this question a while back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 Indeed, I know it gets a lot of stick but the training methods he brought in are being used in sevral sports now and wouldn't be surprised if more than a few football clubs have adopted similar training programs as well. This was all talked about on here a week or two back, on the Simon Clifford thread. I think everyone agrees that various of the principles he looked to implement made sense. But putting a man with zero experience of football in charge of all footballing operations and spending large sums of money on innovative training methods which subsequently neglected spending on much needed playing staff was a show of madness. And promoting that same man and an understudy in Clifford (who also had no experience of league football management) to be reserve team managers with a view to taking over the first team within a year or so was just lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 4 September, 2011 Share Posted 4 September, 2011 The bad news is that this time next week TF will in all likelihood be back with Southampton. Fourpast was actually at the open training session last Thursday, does that imply he was back early or training with us and just travelling up for Thurrock games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 5 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2011 Also interested to see that young Anthony Pulis came on as a sub for Aldershot midway through the second half of a recent game and then got subbed himself Of course he could heve been injured!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 5 September, 2011 Share Posted 5 September, 2011 Also interested to see that young Anthony Pulis came on as a sub for Aldershot midway through the second half of a recent game and then got subbed himself Of course he could heve been injured!! Came on as sub, took an elbow to the head (guy should have been sent off but only got a yellow) and had to go off again as the cut needed attention and the Terry Butcher look didn't work. Was on for 5 mins max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 5 February, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Anyone know if Pulis is still at Aldershot? he doesnt seem to feature on their web site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Anyone know if Pulis is still at Aldershot? he doesnt seem to feature on their web site There was a link on another thread that he's gone to the USA to play for a team in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Anyone know if Pulis is still at Aldershot? he doesnt seem to feature on their web site http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/OrlandoCity/0,,10310~2581270,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/OrlandoCity/0,,10310~2581270,00.html Hah getting duped by Pulis couldn't happen to a nicer bloke than Adrian Heath. Still if you can get a game in Florida and get paid for it not much point in hanging about a dump like Aldershot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 It describes him as a " technically gifted midfielder" on that Stoke website !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 It describes him as a " technically gifted midfielder" on that Stoke website !! Made me laugh as well! The kid barley passes as a footballer, let alone a technically gifted one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 The kid barley passes as a footballer Makes me hopping mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 I'm sure Jimmy Saville (Lord rest his soul) was involved in our signing of these two. Both had childhood dreams of being Professional Footballers and their dads wrote to Sir Jim, asking if Jim could fix it. The rest is history except Jim swore everyone to secrecy hence all the mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Forecast cant have much longer to go on his gravy-train contract, though. Reading the background to the Forecast/Webster story, I wonder if anyone on here wants to still maintain that Lowe wasnt a complete and utter nightmare for our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 Forecast cant have much longer to go on his gravy-train contract, though. Reading the background to the Forecast/Webster story, I wonder if anyone on here wants to still maintain that Lowe wasnt a complete and utter nightmare for our club. another year after this, believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 It describes him as a " technically gifted midfielder" on that Stoke website !! Apparently he was very good at fixing the club's PCs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Randell Posted 5 February, 2012 Share Posted 5 February, 2012 I've never actually seen either of them play....I take it their both really bad and none of you are exaggerating then?! And what's Forecast done that's given him such a bad reputation off the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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