slickmick Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Mis-spelling their names proves my point about my own ignorance. What I have got far above you is perspective and an understanding of how real life is actually lived. Stick to your bedroom you computer gaming pedantic freak. pmsl....like.
Badger Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 solentsport BBC Radio Solent #saintsfc Solent understands that Fontaine deal broke down as Saints unable to make an informed decision on ankle injury. Not he failed 19 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply TonyHusbandTV Tony Husband by ConnorArmstrong #Saintsfc #Bristolcity Liam Fontaine deal didn't progress while player has ankle prob. Seems possible it could be resurrected at some stage 20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Personally,i would steer clear of this deal,don't touch it with a barge pole. Inclined to agree,as not convinced he is a significant step up from our current options. Happy to go with the Club's decision of not going through with this deal is there are any doubts regarding fitness. After all, we should all remember the Delgado fiasco!!!!! But with Adkins identifying that the centre half position needs bolstering it is a little disconcerting that we haven't filled this gap yet. Presume Adkins and others are just as concerned and are working flat out to resolve it before the window shuts. I certainly think it's an area that needs bolstering. Have no problem with Jaidi coming in for specific games to kick some ar5e, think Martin needs more time to develop and perhaps even a loan out, whilst Seabourne is OK, but not as solid as I would like. Great shame that an ideal option might have been Hobbs who has now gone to Hull.
Crab Lungs Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Sorry but I don't agree Seaborne is good enough for a promotion-seeking Championship side, which is clearly what we're striving to be. He's definitely a good squad player to have, but the gulf in class between him and Fonte is considerable, and that's the level of player we should surely be aiming for. Up front, there's no denying Connolly's quality, while Barnard is an unknown quantity at this level. I don't see any point bringing in someone who'll play second fiddle to those, we need to look to improve on what we have or sign someone who gives a completely different option to what we have. I think a Maynard-type player does both of those things. Exactly how I feel...
St_Tel49 Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 I am. This is an initial reaction. If following a signing everyone just said no comment until they had played a number of games then there would be no need for a forum. Are you seriously telling me you never have any opinion on a player we sign before you see them play for us? Of course I have but I generally keep it to myself because there is always the possibility that a premature judgement published on line can make me look like a t w @ t
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Of course I have but I generally keep it to myself because there is always the possibility that a premature judgement published on line can make me look like a t w @ t Then don't visit the forum is my advice if you prefer not to post your opinions.
ChrisPY Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Clearly currently got a bit of an injury and whilst he's got that we can't tell if it's something that's going to affect him long term. Think we'll stick with what we've got at CB until January and go back and give him a medical when he's actually fit.
.comsaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Interestingly - Fontaine's agent is absolutely adamant the move did not collapse due to a dodgy ankle! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9214276.Fontaine_s_agent_denies_ankle_concerns/?ref=rss
beatlesaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Interestingly - Fontaine's agent is absolutely adamant the move did not collapse due to a dodgy ankle! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9214276.Fontaine_s_agent_denies_ankle_concerns/?ref=rss I wonder why that might be ? If he fails a medical somewhere else said agent has a bit of a problem doesn't he ?
CanadaSaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I wonder why that might be ? If he fails a medical somewhere else said agent has a bit of a problem doesn't he ? The answer probably rests in the wording "unable to make an informed decision on ankle injury". So he wasn't rejected because of his current ankle injury but because that injury made it impossible for him to do the things they needed him to do to satisfy them about his fitness. If that makes sense. It means that both the Club and the agent can be correct even though they seem to be saying conflicting things.
Foxstone Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Quite happy with the clubs decision on this one.. There is no point in spending £1 million on a player who cannot prove his fitness, and although we are clearly looking for a left sided CB, why go desperate and buy a potential "sick note".. I'm sure NA has identified others and NC is working on them.
Wes Tender Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Well, I'm relieved. We already have a Fonte and a Forte and another player with a similar name would be confusing to Journos and commentators.
Chez Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Interestingly - Fontaine's agent is absolutely adamant the move did not collapse due to a dodgy ankle! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9214276.Fontaine_s_agent_denies_ankle_concerns/?ref=rss tough one, he either says his player has a dodgy ankle or he says his player is greedy.
JustMike Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 In NA and the rest of the team I trust. There will be other targets, and its not like we are playing badly is it!
Chez Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 In NA and the rest of the team I trust. There will be other targets, and its not like we are playing badly is it! agreed. Felt like a Thomas signing to me. Not sure why fans get so worked up when potential signings they hear about fall through. For every one we hear about these days there will be five or six enquiries that we never hear about that will have fallen at the first hurdle.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 In NA and the rest of the team I trust. There will be other targets, and its not like we are playing badly is it! Tell us more........
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Worried? Jemal, Billy Sharp and now Fontaine - all wanted by the club, but all 3 unable to agree transfer??? worried much?
austsaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Interestingly - Fontaine's agent is absolutely adamant the move did not collapse due to a dodgy ankle! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9214276.Fontaine_s_agent_denies_ankle_concerns/?ref=rss Three coins too many in the Fontaine (maybe).
whizz Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Worried? Jemal, Billy Sharp and now Fontaine - all wanted by the club, but all 3 unable to agree transfer??? worried much? + the QPR fella...
capitalsaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 In NA and the rest of the team I trust. There will be other targets, and its not like we are playing badly is it! Still waiting! Don't be so coy.
Gingeletiss Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I'm not negative I say it as I see it. If we had signed Gorkss and Rodrgiuez I would be extremely positive and saying how great it was. Also please try not link Dalek and I. He is a WUM and I would prefer not to be associated with him. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, oh my sides! hahahahahahahahahahah
Pancake Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Worried? Jemal, Billy Sharp and now Fontaine - all wanted by the club, but all 3 unable to agree transfer??? worried much? Yeah, coz every transfer of every player for every club always comes off.
capitalsaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Yeah, coz every transfer of every player for every club always comes off. You seem confident, what's your info?
Greenridge Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Worried? Jemal, Billy Sharp and now Fontaine - all wanted by the club, but all 3 unable to agree transfer??? worried much? Only for you
Eastcowzer Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 + the QPR fella... The QPR fella is now a Reading fella because of all the dithering.. Point NA & NC in the direction of Jan-Paul Saeis, someone who would jump at the chance to join the Club.
Big_Bald_Si Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 The QPR fella is now a Reading fella because of all the dithering.. Point NA & NC in the direction of Jan-Paul Saeis, someone who would jump at the chance to join the Club. As would Ali Dia..........actually, he might not this time as we're not in the Premiership.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I have heard that some players get put off signing for us when they find out they will have to sing karaoke in front of the whole squad:)
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, oh my sides! hahahahahahahahahahah You are a cretin.
saint1977 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Probably for the best this one fell through as you've only got to search down the right-hand side of yesterday's BBC Sport articles to see that the references to ankle problems appear frequently. Feel sorry for the player though. Surprised at NA, he usually does his homework on these things. I think someone on the Gorkss thread had it right there, Reading won't mean moving his family and also it might be that NA really wanted him if it was a part-ex deal to offload Puncheon but as an individual target he may not have been a number one target although on the shortlist. Let's see what NA and NC come up with before 31 Aug.
Gingeletiss Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 You are a cretin. But surely, that's an insult!, didn't think that sort of thing was allowed in your world?
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 But surely, that's an insult!, didn't think that sort of thing was allowed in your world? Your continual failure to debate the issues says much about you. Your mentality was exposed on the lounge recently. You are quite clearly incapable of debating sensibly. I suggest you ignore me in future if you are unable to do so sensibly without pointless and off topic comments.
Gingeletiss Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Your continual failure to debate the issues says much about you. Your mentality was exposed on the lounge recently. You are quite clearly incapable of debating sensibly. I suggest you ignore me in future if you are unable to do so sensibly without pointless and off topic comments. Bless you! debate? you wouldn't know the meaning of it. As far as you're concerned, your opinion is always the right one, and you drip at every response to your posts. I can't make my mind as to your age, but certainly, you come across as a very very young mind. Hypo, well named imo, as they are some of the biggest whingers in society. You are by far the most negative poster on here, at least Dalek shows his colours as a WUM, you try and disguise yours!s
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Bless you! debate? you wouldn't know the meaning of it. As far as you're concerned, your opinion is always the right one, and you drip at every response to your posts. I have no idea what drip means. I reply to responses to my posts yes. The few reasonable responses get a reasonable response. See the Maynard thread at the moment for shurlock replying sensibly, unlike yourself who displays little capacity for proper discussion with opinions that differ from your own. I can't make my mind as to your age, but certainly, you come across as a very very young mind. Hypo, well named imo, as they are some of the biggest whingers in society. You are by far the most negative poster on here, at least Dalek shows his colours as a WUM, you try and disguise yours!s Unfortunately your capacity for proper discussion is extremely limited and you are one of the worst on here for refusing to respect the views of others. Thankfully I care little for your opinion about my 'young mind' as you put it. I am content with the knowledge that I am able to debate sensibly with those who wish to do so. You inability to do this and instead resorting to fake laughter and insults says a lot more about your state of mind. The very fact that you regard me as a WUM suggests to me that you are totally unable to respond sensibly and so would prefer to write me off as a WUM because it is easier than trying to enter into some sort of civil discussion. Again I encourage you to put me on ignore or stop replying to me as I will endeavour to do to you. I doubt anyone has any desire to watch you spout a stream of insults directed at me and would prefer to debate the relevant issues which is surely the point of a forum.
revolution saint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I reckon we might settle for a loan CB now. Would make sense if the players we want aren't available and I'd rather hold on until they are rather than keep going down the wishlist until we're left with players that really aren't that much better than what we've got. I think we will sign a striker and spend decent money though.
The9 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I have heard that some players get put off signing for us when they find out they will have to sing karaoke in front of the whole squad:) You joke, but if you were a professional footballer who had a choice of clubs and deals, and the difference in money wasn't that big a deal to you, that kind of potential embarrassment is exactly the sort of thing that could put you off - especially if you happened to think it was irrelevant to your ability to deliver on the pitch. There are a LOT of good footballers out there who aren't detrimental to team spirit but wouldn't feel the need to go along with something like that - what relevance does it have to the effort they put in on the pitch, after all ? You don't have to be popular to be a top footballer, just a good footballer.
The9 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Unfortunately your capacity for proper discussion is extremely limited and you are one of the worst on here for refusing to respect the views of others. Thankfully I care little for your opinion about my 'young mind' as you put it. I am content with the knowledge that I am able to debate sensibly with those who wish to do so. You inability to do this and instead resorting to fake laughter and insults says a lot more about your state of mind. The very fact that you regard me as a WUM suggests to me that you are totally unable to respond sensibly and so would prefer to write me off as a WUM because it is easier than trying to enter into some sort of civil discussion. Again I encourage you to put me on ignore or stop replying to me as I will endeavour to do to you. I doubt anyone has any desire to watch you spout a stream of insults directed at me and would prefer to debate the relevant issues which is surely the point of a forum. Fair points, all agendas aside.
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 You joke, but if you were a professional footballer who had a choice of clubs and deals, and the difference in money wasn't that big a deal to you, that kind of potential embarrassment is exactly the sort of thing that could put you off - especially if you happened to think it was irrelevant to your ability to deliver on the pitch. There are a LOT of good footballers out there who aren't detrimental to team spirit but wouldn't feel the need to go along with something like that - what relevance does it have to the effort they put in on the pitch, after all ? You don't have to be popular to be a top footballer, just a good footballer. Think you're over-analysing things.
The9 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Think you're over-analysing things. I don't. Footballers are used to not having to do things they don't want to do, with the exception of the specific things they get paid handsomely to do. I'm pretty sure being embarrassed in front of new work colleagues isn't high on anyone's list of things to do, and not wanting that to happen isn't a sign of being "difficult" or "not having the right mentality".
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I don't. Footballers are used to not having to do things they don't want to do, with the exception of the specific things they get paid handsomely to do. I'm pretty sure being embarrassed in front of new work colleagues isn't high on anyone's list of things to do, and not wanting that to happen isn't a sign of being "difficult" or "not having the right mentality". I think it may be a bit of an overreaction. I have heard that man united do something similar and I imagine there are other clubs who do the same thing. I highly doubt it would be a deal breaker and if someone really REALLY didn't want to do it they would probably be let off.
The9 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I think it may be a bit of an overreaction. I have heard that man united do something similar and I imagine there are other clubs who do the same thing. I highly doubt it would be a deal breaker and if someone really REALLY didn't want to do it they would probably be let off. I'm sure there are lots of teams that do it, there used to be lots of teams which had a drinking culture too.
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I'm sure there are lots of teams that do it, there used to be lots of teams which had a drinking culture too. Yeah but Manchester United. One of the most successful and professional clubs in the world. As I said, at any rate I doubt any transfers have ever broken down because they have to sing karaoke when they join.
rooney Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 The Clubs probably want too much money for them and the players want too much in wages. They have been watching Sky Sorts News too much.
Ashby Saint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 The Bristol news story says he is recovering from ankle surgery. Do we know if / when he will be fit enough to play? Seems to me this deal will depend heavily on the medical. What foresight! Must get a lottery ticket this week.
Raging Bull Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Sorry if this has already been mentioned but I heard that after the medical was looked at and decided against, Fontaine stayed behind at the club for a while, maybe we're going to wait to see what his heel does up to xmas then buy him in Jan?
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