hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Absolutely, loads were gutted. But that's not the point I was trying to make. I was suggesting that most fans will typically seek to play down the loss of any player or justifiy his departure by saying he was overrated, no matter how much it stretches reality. Call it sour grapes, denial whatever you want. But this bias is everywhere (look at some of the assessments of Oxo on here) and its important to factor it in when putting weight on the views of opposing fans. Of course you factor it in, but reading other fans comments you get an overall flavour of their opinion of a player. One great way to do it is to search for the player on that forum, then you get unbiased views from a few months previously. Gorkss for example had fantastic reviews from November last year from QPR fans. Palace fans were gutted on their forum, as were Bristol Rovers forums. OK you may get the odd people who play down their importance or say they are not needed, but you can still get a decent flavour of a player, as evidenced by the reactions to the signings of a number such as Fonte, Lambert and Cork etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Signing a centre back from a mediocre Championship side for £1m? Can't see that working out. Shades of Wayne Thomas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Shades of Wayne Thomas? Shades of Jose Fonte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Criticising past transfers and them turning out good/bad has zero bearing on the success of any future transfers. Being underwhelmed doesn't mean much, just as many underwhelming signings do well. In fact for us, the more 'whelming' ones often seem to struggle more. Not since Cortese has come in. In the last two years, signings that have been seen as a major loss and decent by opposition fans on average, have been decent for us. Opposition fans views have been a good barometer (see S****horpe fans reaction for Forte and Exeter for Seaborne also.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Anything from J Sibley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Shades of Jose Fonte? Time wil tell I guess. I remember when Thomas was uveiled that Burley said it was incredible the price you had to pay for an English centre back. Basically he was saying he was way over-valued, and so it turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I can't see us getting Mascherano.... unless he can change his name to Fonmascherano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Meh, but happy to be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Just got a PM - failed medical apparently! Source = JustMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Time wil tell I guess. I remember when Thomas was uveiled that Burley said it was incredible the price you had to pay for an English centre back. Basically he was saying he was way over-valued, and so it turned out. Did you not see his goal against Ipswich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 It doesnt matter what we fans think about a player comming to us. What is important is what the manager thinks about improving the team. he does not want a prima donna who is going to upset the apple cart. we have had our fair share of these over the years. Nigel knows what he wants for the team and if the price is right he will get his player/s Yes we can discuss the merits of potential players. warnock at QPR thinks puncheons the man for them , but lots of you on here think hes crap. If fontaine signs . it will be because he can do a job for us and not because hes the only one available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Time wil tell I guess. I remember when Thomas was uveiled that Burley said it was incredible the price you had to pay for an English centre back. Basically he was saying he was way over-valued, and so it turned out. While Thomas didn't really perform to great levels here, his goal vs Ipswich and winning penalty in the JPT more than paid the fee back imo. I was gutted for him when he missed out on a place in the side at Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Just got a PM - failed medical apparently! Source = JustMike JustMike has just PM'd me to say that the medical is still ongoing, so he's lying to one of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 With the sale of AOC, I must admit, I was hoping for a couple of 'marquee' signings. I live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 JustMike has just PM'd me to say that the medical is still ongoing, so he's lying to one of us. Did he mention the flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 With the sale of AOC, I must admit, I was hoping for a couple of 'marquee' signings. I live in hope. I think we will be satisfied by the end of the window. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 is he better than Seabourne? doubt it I don't think he has to " be better " than Danny s. Surely the general idea is to have good cover in all positions in case of; injury, suspensions, loss of form etc. If he's " as good as " Seaborne then we have a good deal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 With the sale of AOC, I must admit, I was hoping for a couple of 'marquee' signings. I live in hope. I've said nothing of the sort !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I think we will be satisfied by the end of the window. Just a hunch. I hope so. Getting in a cracking attacking option would soften the blow of losing Gorkss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Typical SWF bedwetting by a few. Relative merits. Seaborne has previously only played in League 1 and lg 2 for Exeter and been a stand in for Saints. Gorkss has spent the past five years playing in the Championship and is 29. Fontaine has spent the past five years playing in the Championship, is 25 and left footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I hope so. Getting in a cracking attacking option would soften the blow of losing Gorkss. What is your idea of cracking? Maynard i assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 What is your idea of cracking? Maynard i assume? Rodriguez would be cracking too. Or Ebanks Blake I'm not fussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I hope so. Getting in a cracking attacking option would soften the blow of losing Gorkss. By all accounts, we didn't "lose" Gorkss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Bunch of bed wetting, pathetic drama queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I hope so. Getting in a cracking attacking option would soften the blow of losing Gorkss. Lost Gorkss? Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Anything from J Sibley? He has just tweeted the following "I am a useless ****" 3 minutes ago via Twitterrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Something this afternon I should imagine, given that the BBC are now following it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 OK so it looks very likely we have signed him. Lets move on and hope for the best. Just one more signing does everyone think? Hopefully a significant striker purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Shades of Wayne Thomas? I look forward to another wonder goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 One of my friends who is a Bristol City season ticket holder just sent me this email when I asked about Fontaine. He is on holiday so wasn't aware of Saints interest. It seems to validate some of the other opinions about him. See comments below; "Liam Fontaine - good 2nd defender if you have a dominant centre-half for him to play alongside. He's a good footballer - more Bobby Moore than Stuart Pearce or Terry Butcher. He'd probably command a fee in the region of £250k-£300k. Don't tell me Saints are being linked with him! You must be delighted with the start you've made in the Championship!!!!!" His estimation on price is a little concerning though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 With the sale of AOC, I must admit, I was hoping for a couple of 'marquee' signings. I live in hope. http://www.marqueesandpartytents.co.uk/4m%20x%206m%20luxury-p-8921.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 (edited) Anybody else think it's a bit of a 'coincidence' that Sibley has gone all quiet AND JustMike isn't responding to the posts on here? Have they ever been seen together in the same room? Not by me. Edit. JustMike just Pm'd me. Interesting stuff. Thanks J. Edited 24 August, 2011 by capitalsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 OK so it looks very likely we have signed him. Lets move on and hope for the best. Just one more signing does everyone think? Hopefully a significant striker purchase. What's the latest Bendtner info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 OK so it looks very likely we have signed him. Lets move on and hope for the best. Just one more signing does everyone think? Hopefully a significant striker purchase. "Move on and hope for the best?!?" Have a day off will you please? It is a shame the first half of your post is quite staggering because I agree that we could do with signing a striker, but I don't see why we need to go breaking the bank for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Rodriguez would be cracking too. Or Ebanks Blake I'm not fussy. Did his ankle last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 He has just tweeted the following "I am a useless ****" 3 minutes ago via Twitterrific Usual stuff then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 "Move on and hope for the best?!?" Have a day off will you please? It is a shame the first half of your post is quite staggering because I agree that we could do with signing a striker, but I don't see why we need to go breaking the bank for one. Why is it staggering to hope for the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Did his ankle last night. And isn't for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 And isn't for sale. Seem to remember him being a fat f.u.c.k too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Been working in bristol today and spoke to some city season ticket holder friends of mine,and they were not happy he was leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Anybody else think it's a bit of a 'coincidence' that Sibley has gone all quiet AND JustMike isn't responding to the posts on here? Have they ever been seen together in the same room? Not by me. Edit. JustMike just Pm'd me. Interesting stuff. Thanks J. JustMike and Sibley are the same person - 100% FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Been working in bristol today and spoke to some city season ticket holder friends of mine,and they were not happy he was leaving. Yes but are they unhappy because they rated him or because he was the 'best of a bad bunch' (quoted from a City forum.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 So he sent you the PM too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I love all this 'underwhelmed' rubbish from the same people who were underwhelmed at Adkins appointment. Sorry if I don't share in your blatant lack of football knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Heard the deal is off from a text! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I love all this 'underwhelmed' rubbish from the same people who were underwhelmed at Adkins appointment. Sorry if I don't share in your blatant lack of football knowledge. The collective noun for them is "c**ts". Clueless ones at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I love all this 'underwhelmed' rubbish from the same people who were underwhelmed at Adkins appointment. Sorry if I don't share in your blatant lack of football knowledge. Why is it a blatant lack of football knowledge to look at the reactions from many Bristol City Fans and give an initial reaction as underwhelmed by a signing whilst being fully prepared for that opinion to change once they have had a few games under their belt for SFC? What is the point of a forum if you can't give your initial reaction to a signing? Why are you so aggressive toward any sort of negative opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Not agree terms as he is not interested in what we had to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Heard the deal is off from a text! Have you got a speaking phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Heard the deal is off from a text! If so, that is even worse with Gorkss gone elsewhere. We could have really missed out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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