Sam Baldock

[St.Patrik]

According to fourth_official its now official that he´s gone to W Ham...

[markr27]

Official WHU site reporting it as such.

 

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20110826/hammers-bag-baldock_2236884_2433345

[DG]

Booo.

[Latheal]

Sky Sports just made it official - Baldock to West Ham

[PaulGilchrist_76]

Sky Sports just made it official - Baldock to West Ham

 

Another one bites the dust!

[revolution saint]

Agree he's not a pure speedster; but he is arguably more mobile than alot of our frontline. Its precisely why I rate him - I like his versatility and his intelligence- seems perfectly suited to the kind of fluid, interchangeable football we've been playing and gives us another option in the air (where we're short should Lambert pick up an injury or suffer a dip in form).

 

Well it's all about opinions but to my mind he'd fit into Lambert's role quite well (and who knows maybe better) but less so as a striking partner. I wouldn't spend 5m in that area - not with the team we've already got.

[Matthew Le God]

 

The End.

[saints-cris]

Fourth_Official Fourth Official

 

 

 

Maynard fee agreed reports are false, talks are open & structure of the bid is being discussed, the merry go round has started with Baldock

[Smirking_Saint]

closed

[revolution saint]

Fourth_Official Fourth Official

 

 

 

Maynard fee agreed reports are false, talks are open & structure of the bid is being discussed, the merry go round has started with Baldock

 

I think Leicester are the only show in town for Maynard.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Darn. Think we might have missed out there. Hopefully we've got other irons in the fire.

[saint lard]

I hope that NA has a long shopping list as the options are decreasing somewhat,well that is to say our first second and possibly third choice aquisitions are rapidly becoming out of reach.Due either to outside our price range or possibly we are not the desirable prospect some may think.

 

And i'm not just talking strikers,the CB fiasco is slightly disconcerting also.

 

Sort it in the coming days please.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

£2.75m according to the Sky Sports report on his signing a moment ago. Would've liked him at SMS but that is more than I thought he was worth.

[Saints foreva]

£2.75m according to the Sky Sports report on his signing a moment ago. Would've liked him at SMS but that is more than I thought he was worth.

 

Some MK Dons fan said he's heard West Ham offered him £30,000 a week too. Not sure if that's true but if it is, I'm glad we were priced out.

[MOSaint]

At this point I'd rather NA went into the loan market until Jan and tried for permanent options during the transfer window rather than rushing through deals for players that may well be his fourth or fifth choice simply to fill a gap in the squad.

[Appy]

At this point I'd rather NA went into the loan market until Jan and tried for permanent options during the transfer window rather than rushing through deals for players that may well be his fourth or fifth choice simply to fill a gap in the squad.

 

I really don't think Adkins is interested in loans.

[shurlock]

Been an awful window for transfer inflation - £5m for NPC CBs, nearly £3m for L1 strikers, £5-6m quoted for NPC players who have only a season or two of form. This will be the reference point for kinds of chancers and mediocrity from now. And to think we're reported to have only paid £1m for Fonte and £750K for Cork. Best to go abroad, this country's a graveyard.

[Windmill Arm 2]

Forgive me if i'm being ignorant, but at what point did ANYBODY who works in transfer dealings at Southampton Football Club say that we were trying to buy Sam Baldock, Jay Rodruiguez, Nicky Maynard, or any other k@nt..............? Oh really? what nobody?...........well fook my old boots !!!

[revolution saint]

Been an awful window for transfer inflation - £5m for NPC CBs, nearly £3m for L1 strikers, £5-6m quoted for NPC players who have only a season or two of form. This will be the reference point for kinds of chancers and mediocrity from now. And to think we're reported to have only paid £1m for Fonte and £750K for Cork. Best to go abroad, this country's a graveyard.

 

Absolutely, never thought that I'd be advocating prudence if we were in a position to spend big but frankly I just can't see the value in the domestic market at this level. If teams like West Ham and Leicester want to go down that route then fine, good luck to them but we don't need to do that.

[LGTL]

We will finish above westham. They will implode.

 

Nothing would give me greater pleasure.

[InvictaSaint]

Forgive me if i'm being ignorant, but at what point did ANYBODY who works in transfer dealings at Southampton Football Club say that we were trying to buy Sam Baldock, Jay Rodruiguez, Nicky Maynard, or any other k@nt..............? Oh really? what nobody?...........well fook my old boots !!!

 

Post of the day part 1....

[InvictaSaint]

Exactly. Clubs moan about managers/chairman not meeting their demands, but in this climate who can blame them. Say we'd gone on with a reasonable offer for mills, say 3m? Good price for a championship CB. Yet they'd have called it derisory because there's a daft club playing the short sighted finance doesn't matter game.

 

And that's before wage demands come along. That's why these idiotic clubs need punishment, and harsh punishment. Pompey getting away with clearcut fraud has only sought to encourage the likes of west ham and Leicester and it's terrible for the game. It won't last, it's unsustainable, but it's gone on long enough for me. So sorry to those angered by lack of signings, but I think it's very clear why many of us prefer the way we're doing things. Saints could be one of the few clubs in a strong position in a few years when it all implodes.

 

And it will. QPR rip off their fans and others so they can give joey Barton 60k per week. They price out families, working classes and many others on average or reasonable incomes. They market their cup tickets, sell them to fans in good faith then Warnock turns round to tell these fans he didn't care about the game, didn't motivate the team and is glad they're out. A disgusting slap in the face to all that paid. It may be all about money to them with eternity finishing 17th in the top flight a lucrative dream, but fans like cup football, they're there for the sport, to see their team win matches and dream of silverware. We've all put up with insane player wages for years and tried to cope with over the top prices to sustain it, but there's an increasing underlying resentment which understandably translates into a lack of patience from fans and booing. May not help, but the frustration is understandable.

 

.....and post of the day part 2.

[pap]

Exactly. Clubs moan about managers/chairman not meeting their demands, but in this climate who can blame them. Say we'd gone on with a reasonable offer for mills, say 3m? Good price for a championship CB. Yet they'd have called it derisory because there's a daft club playing the short sighted finance doesn't matter game.

 

And that's before wage demands come along. That's why these idiotic clubs need punishment, and harsh punishment. Pompey getting away with clearcut fraud has only sought to encourage the likes of west ham and Leicester and it's terrible for the game. It won't last, it's unsustainable, but it's gone on long enough for me. So sorry to those angered by lack of signings, but I think it's very clear why many of us prefer the way we're doing things. Saints could be one of the few clubs in a strong position in a few years when it all implodes.

 

And it will. QPR rip off their fans and others so they can give joey Barton 60k per week. They price out families, working classes and many others on average or reasonable incomes. They market their cup tickets, sell them to fans in good faith then Warnock turns round to tell these fans he didn't care about the game, didn't motivate the team and is glad they're out. A disgusting slap in the face to all that paid. It may be all about money to them with eternity finishing 17th in the top flight a lucrative dream, but fans like cup football, they're there for the sport, to see their team win matches and dream of silverware. We've all put up with insane player wages for years and tried to cope with over the top prices to sustain it, but there's an increasing underlying resentment which understandably translates into a lack of patience from fans and booing. May not help, but the frustration is understandable.

 

Good post.

[Matthew Le God]

Forgive me if i'm being ignorant, but at what point did ANYBODY who works in transfer dealings at Southampton Football Club say that we were trying to buy Sam Baldock, Jay Rodruiguez, Nicky Maynard, or any other k@nt..............? Oh really? what nobody?...........well fook my old boots !!!

 

Nigel Adkins has confirmed in interview with BBC Radio Solent and Saints Player that Saints made bids for Billy Sharp and Liam Fontaine this summer.

Edited 26 August, 2011 by Matthew Le God

[the saint in winchester]

At this point I'd rather NA went into the loan market until Jan and tried for permanent options during the transfer window rather than rushing through deals for players that may well be his fourth or fifth choice simply to fill a gap in the squad.

 

That pretty much agrees with my view. Not sure we need anyone yet - with 4 or 5 forwards or can-be forwards. I'd rather we keep ahold of our money until Jan and then if we (ie Nigel, Nicola) see the need to get anyone in, then we can do so. There seems to be an urgency to get someone in just as I don't see a need. Rickie said it works because they all know each others games. Why bring anyone in and risk unsettling the camp?

[thegaffer]

West Ham bid 1.4mill first then we bid 2mill and West Ham went in with a matching bid end of.

We may have just been used by MK to bump up the price of Baldock, or used by his agent to bump up wages. Happens all the time.

[SaintRichmond]

We may have just been used by MK to bump up the price of Baldock, or used by his agent to bump up wages. Happens all the time.

 

IMHO, it's not the transfer fee that is the problem, it is the Wage structure in place at St Mary's that falls short of the potential new players "demands"

[Give it to Ron]

IMHO, it's not the transfer fee that is the problem, it is the Wage structure in place at St Mary's that falls short of the potential new players "demands"

Didnt seem to bother Cork, Fox , Fontaine or Gorkss did it.

[Gingeletiss]

Didnt seem to bother Cork, Fox , Fontaine or Gorkss did it.

 

Or those that signed contract extensions, so most of the team then!

[Give it to Ron]

Or those that signed contract extensions, so most of the team then!

 

According to MK Dons Baldock went for 30k a week....for a 22 yr old L1 striker...at least it seems we learnt something from

administration!!

[CB Fry]

Exactly. Clubs moan about managers/chairman not meeting their demands, but in this climate who can blame them. Say we'd gone on with a reasonable offer for mills, say 3m? Good price for a championship CB. Yet they'd have called it derisory because there's a daft club playing the short sighted finance doesn't matter game.

 

And that's before wage demands come along. That's why these idiotic clubs need punishment, and harsh punishment. Pompey getting away with clearcut fraud has only sought to encourage the likes of west ham and Leicester and it's terrible for the game. It won't last, it's unsustainable, but it's gone on long enough for me. So sorry to those angered by lack of signings, but I think it's very clear why many of us prefer the way we're doing things. Saints could be one of the few clubs in a strong position in a few years when it all implodes.

 

And it will. QPR rip off their fans and others so they can give joey Barton 60k per week. They price out families, working classes and many others on average or reasonable incomes. They market their cup tickets, sell them to fans in good faith then Warnock turns round to tell these fans he didn't care about the game, didn't motivate the team and is glad they're out. A disgusting slap in the face to all that paid. It may be all about money to them with eternity finishing 17th in the top flight a lucrative dream, but fans like cup football, they're there for the sport, to see their team win matches and dream of silverware. We've all put up with insane player wages for years and tried to cope with over the top prices to sustain it, but there's an increasing underlying resentment which understandably translates into a lack of patience from fans and booing. May not help, but the frustration is understandable.

 

 

Quite right, great post. Meanwhile on another planet there is a breed on Saints fans on this very forum absolutely convinced that we will become Champion's League regulars on the back of our academy, and because Cortese said so, and because people used to say you couldn't climb Everest.

 

Tell that to Everton, sustainably run with the best manager in the game or indeed to QPR going the Jimmy Bullard route, lobbing £60k a week at Joey Barton.

 

If we get to the promised land it's going to take a hell of a lot of running just to stand still.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Ok let's move on.......plan F?

[um pahars]

Been an awful window for transfer inflation - £5m for NPC CBs, nearly £3m for L1 strikers, £5-6m quoted for NPC players who have only a season or two of form. This will be the reference point for kinds of chancers and mediocrity from now. And to think we're reported to have only paid £1m for Fonte and £750K for Cork. Best to go abroad, this country's a graveyard.

 

You're spot on and what makes it worse is that other clubs probably see us as being flush with cash, either due to them thinking we're being massively bankrolled or the Oxo money is burning a hole in our pocket, or a combination of both.

 

I'd imagine it's been a tough window trying to dampen down others expectations of what we can afford to pay.

[um pahars]

And even though I risk the wrath of Chin Strain, has anyone seen the way TalkSport reported the Baldock move to West Ham (in my defence, Granty was peddling this filth on Twitter last night)???

 

"West Ham have signed MK Dons striker Sam Baldock after beating Southampton to the forward’s signature.

 

Mk Dons preferred to do business with the Hammers, in what will be seen as a coup over their Championship leading rivals, and accepted their £2m bid ahead of Southampton’s offer for the 22-year-old."

 

 

As Mr grant said, an interesting choice of words.

[thorpie the sinner]

You're spot on and what makes it worse is that other clubs probably see us as being flush with cash, either due to them thinking we're being massively bankrolled or the Oxo money is burning a hole in our pocket, or a combination of both.

 

I'd imagine it's been a tough window trying to dampen down others expectations of what we can afford to pay.

 

Totally agree! Now I am calmer, I am glad we have our budgets etc and stick to what is good for club! If West Ham don't go up for instance, they will be totally screwed!