Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 20 August, 2011 Share Posted 20 August, 2011 Could he be a possible? Only 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Thought the same watching the Dons highlights, would we prefer a more experienced striker though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 This is why if I were a lower league manager I'd injure my best player until September! Good starts to the season always take notice of the big clubs. Talksport today had the MK Dons manager on, he said that he knew of the scouts that were at the ground, and he wouldn't get in anyone's way of playing in a higher league. He sounded a bit like he was admitting defeat. Seeing Baldock's third goal on TFLS, it was something special. Great close control, but as I put on another thread, would Saints fans be happy with signing a lower league player? Peterborough had a bid accepted of £1.2 million in the summer - would be the budget option rather than Maynard/E-Blake/J Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Could he be a possible? Only 22. Thread title: Sam Baldock - HCDAJFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 This is why if I were a lower league manager I'd injure my best player until September! Good starts to the season always take notice of the big clubs. Talksport today had the MK Dons manager on, he said that he knew of the scouts that were at the ground, and he wouldn't get in anyone's way of playing in a higher league. He sounded a bit like he was admitting defeat. Seeing Baldock's third goal on TFLS, it was something special. Great close control, but as I put on another thread, would Saints fans be happy with signing a lower league player? Peterborough had a bid accepted of £1.2 million in the summer - would be the budget option rather than Maynard/E-Blake/J Rod. I would be more than happy.....one thing about our stint in league one has shown me is there are some good, young players in the lower leagues who are hungry and would really like to play for us rather that than a name whos more interested in the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 I would be more than happy.....one thing about our stint in league one has shown me is there are some good, young players in the lower leagues who are hungry and would really like to play for us rather that than a name whos more interested in the cash. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Peterborough pulled out and SB said he didn't want to go there Either suggests SB thought Ferguson was a kn*b (probably right!) or the they thought SB had a crap attitude Interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Whoever we bring in, striker and CB needs to be able to play in the prem. Can this guy? If not, I'd stay clear tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Whoever we bring in, striker and CB needs to be able to play in the prem. Can this guy? If not, I'd stay clear tbf Agreed i think now after this start we have had, we need to look at players who would be good enough to play in the prem with prem experience, i dont see this happening really until Jan transfer window now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Whoever we bring in, striker and CB needs to be able to play in the prem. Can this guy? If not, I'd stay clear tbf why...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 why...? Why do we need players capable of playing in the prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Why do we need players capable of playing in the prem? probably not at this moment, NPC will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 probably not at this moment, NPC will do Yeah maybe, but would it not make financial sense, in the long run, to buy prem quality players now instead of players capable of getting us there, and (possibly) not be good enough to compete and keep us there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Yeah maybe, but would it not make financial sense, in the long run, to buy prem quality players now instead of players capable of getting us there, and (possibly) not be good enough to compete and keep us there? financial sense would be to get to the prem....... I dont think harding could really cut it in the prem yet we just signed him up......why if it makes not financial sense..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Harding specifically I reckon was a clause in hid contract being exercised on promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Think we seem to be signing players who are good enough for the championship but young enough to improve and play in the prem, baldock would seem to be this sort of a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Craig Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Did he not score 2 hat-tricks last season? Possibly in successive games, if not 3 games. Aswell as the one yesterday of course. Got mentioned in conversation the other week amongst all the other rumours of JayRod and Maynard. Definitely has an eye for goal and a decent finisher in one on one situations. Could be an exciting signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 21 August, 2011 Share Posted 21 August, 2011 Think we seem to be signing players who are good enough for the championship but young enough to improve and play in the prem, baldock would seem to be this sort of a signing. Spot on, that is the only cost effective way open to us! Arsenal have been mainly signing young players with potential rather than big money established players and it has served them reasonably well! why not us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 financial sense would be to get to the prem....... I dont think harding could really cut it in the prem yet we just signed him up......why if it makes not financial sense..? In case we don't get promoted straight away - and so we can get a good fee for him if we do get promoted and he is no longer required. However, it could also be that Adkins reckons he could do a job in the Prem. Harding specifically I reckon was a clause in hid contract being exercised on promotion That was a one year extension earlier in the summer - the more recent contract extension was because we wanted to sign him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Baldock would be a quality signing. Young, pacy, scores all kinds of goals, and very cheap (compared to the others talked about anyway) If he's a decent bloke who'll fit in, then sign him up I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 A realistic target without the ridiculous price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Is he better than Barnard though......surely we need a proven scorer in CCC and beyond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Is he better than Barnard though......surely we need a proven scorer in CCC and beyond? This is the question we have to ask ourselves. I for one am not convinced that he is any better than Barnard - he has got youth on his side but so has Barny to a certain extent. If we are buying someone to replace Connolly/Barnard then they need to have proven pedigree but that will come at a cost. Better to spend more an improve the side than take the cheap option. I would rather Jay Rod or Maynard over Baldock if the deal was viable, even at much greater cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Is he better than Barnard though......surely we need a proven scorer in CCC and beyond? Question.... exactly how good is Barnard currently ??? He hasn't impressed me the last few times I've seen him He's gone off the boil since his brush with the law IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssaints Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 I would definitely want him. He is performing well in a league we where in last year and have found the first four games of the season to be at a similar level. I see no reason why not and it would keep DC and RL on their toes with Barny and Baldock ready to step in. I would much rather him than Maynard or Jay Rod if we have to pay more than £4.5 mil for either of them. He has a point to prove. So too does Ryan Lowe at Bury another one I would love to see in a Saints shirt. We have a great squad an experienced centre half such as Gorks and a young hungry striker and I would like to see us top half and being in the mix for the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 I'd only want Baldock if I was convinced he is better than Barnard. I really don't think he is and therefore would look elsewhere. Regardless of how good Barny is at the moment, the question is whether Baldock is better even when Barnard is on form. Of this I am not convinced and would therefore spend more on a proven player like Maynard (not at silly money 5-6 million plus, but perhaps at 4-4.5 it would be viable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 financial sense would be to get to the prem....... I dont think harding could really cut it in the prem yet we just signed him up......why if it makes not financial sense..? Agree with TDD here. Besides, getting NPC players to play league one is a bit different from getting prem players to play NPC. I mean look at Nolan and the obscene wages West Ham are paying him. Lets get the best players we can now for sensible prices. A good mix of potential and proven quality is what is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 His 3rd goal at the weekend was fantastic. (And his layoff to Chadwick was quality) - Unsure whether he's good enough, but he's got the attributes we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 financial sense would be to get to the prem....... I dont think harding could really cut it in the prem yet we just signed him up......why if it makes not financial sense..? Just because we sign them on extended contracts, does not necessarily mean we see them as prem players. If you notice we are pretty much signing up all our existing players who have bankable value. Lets say we do get to the Prem and at that point want to move Harding, Barnard etc. on. There will be plenty of buyers for 2 proven Champ, L1 performers and the price we can extract would be considerably more than letting them go on a free as they are out of contract or in the last year. Anyone else reckon I have cracked NC's masterplan as to why players who are unlikely to figure for us at a higher level are all getting contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Question.... exactly how good is Barnard currently ??? He hasn't impressed me the last few times I've seen him He's gone off the boil since his brush with the law IMHO At the moment I am better than Barnard as he is injured.....but Barnard has a good scoring record in League 1 and for us so see no reason why we should sign Baldock. Barnard is a proven perfect foil for Lambert is Baldock? Do we really need to gamble? Still think we should go for a striker with a proven track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 At the moment I am better than Barnard as he is injured.....but Barnard has a good scoring record in League 1 and for us so see no reason why we should sign Baldock. Barnard is a proven perfect foil for Lambert is Baldock? Do we really need to gamble? Still think we should go for a striker with a proven track record. Whats the obsession with track records...Rudi Skacel had a proven track record so did Andrei Kanchelskis and Mark Hughes .... hell the whole of the Leicester first 11 have track records...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Have we all given up on Barnard, he'll be back soon and will do a job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Have we all given up on Barnard, he'll be back soon and will do a job for us. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Adam Le Fondre has publicly stated he wants to play at a higher level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Whats the obsession with track records...Rudi Skacel had a proven track record so did Andrei Kanchelskis and Mark Hughes .... hell the whole of the Leicester first 11 have track records...... Where did Skacel have a proven record of scoring....oh yeah SPL. What have Leicester got to do with this...we are talking about one signing not 10. We have a squad of good players, the point I am trying to make is we dont need to gamble on an untried youngster in this division, we could do that with Doble. Kanchelskis and Hughes were both on their way down when we signed them...where have I suggested player like that? We should only sign someone better than we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Have we all given up on Barnard, he'll be back soon and will do a job for us. Nope I don't get the Barney won't be good enough stuff. He may not be but lets give him a chance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Adam Le Fondre has publicly stated he wants to play at a higher level Worth a gamble imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Where did Skacel have a proven record of scoring....oh yeah SPL. What have Leicester got to do with this...we are talking about one signing not 10. We have a squad of good players, the point I am trying to make is we dont need to gamble on an untried youngster in this division, we could do that with Doble. Kanchelskis and Hughes were both on their way down when we signed them...where have I suggested player like that? We should only sign someone better than we have now. My point is track records don't mean squat plenty of proven players have moved club and been poor. Suppossed poor players have left us and gone on to better things. Right now using the critera of proven championship/PL players only we wouldn't sign half our current team. Personally I'd rather see the club spend 500K on a promising youngster than 5.5 million on a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 August, 2011 Share Posted 22 August, 2011 Where did Skacel have a proven record of scoring....oh yeah SPL. What have Leicester got to do with this...we are talking about one signing not 10. We have a squad of good players, the point I am trying to make is we dont need to gamble on an untried youngster in this division, we could do that with Doble. Kanchelskis and Hughes were both on their way down when we signed them...where have I suggested player like that? We should only sign someone better than we have now. The thing with that statement, and basing on a supposed track record, is this; of all the players we are (supposedly) tracking, none of them have a track record better than players we have now. Out of Maynard, J-Rod, Sharp etc, in terms of track record and divisions played in, Connolly comes up much better. Barnard and Lambert have comparable scoring records, albeit they've rarely played higher than League 1. But you wouldn't hold that against Rickie right now, he's one of the first names on the team sheet, so by that logic you shouldn't hold it against a new signing. Yes, we should sign players better than those we currently have. Of course that's right. But knowing just who those players are, and how much we should/could pay for them is a lot more diificult. You could argue that Rodriguez is unproven, as he's still young and hasn't done it over a number of seasons. Yet he would cost more than £6M, and it would still be no guarantee of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Worth a gamble imo Report in The Sun today stated that Rotherham are holding out for £500k. If that's the asking price, I think most of the nPC and League One would be getting the cheque book out. Half a million isn't a lot of money if he proves to be arse in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 I thought he looked very light weight when he played at SMS last season and got subbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Some good points Kraken and Dodd but I think there are some good deals to be done. I wonder how much Reading would let Church go for? Madjewski is looking for a way out and a bid of say £3m for him may do the trick. Still am sure they have all this covered anyone but it makes a nice change to be on the positive side of it all for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 I thought he looked very light weight when he played at SMS last season and got subbed Scored a goal though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 I see the beeb are lnking him with a move to West ham apparently big Sam has been to watch him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Read on another site a rumour we have had £1.5m bid accepted for Baldock! Don't shoot me I'm just relaying what soemone else has typed - so no source, not ITK, but interesting when you consider everyone else we have gone after. £1.5m sounds high to me - but then again what do I know! Does he offer anything we don't already have - youth and enthusiasm is all I can think of. If he looks leight weight perhaps we could put him on the Adkins diet and beef him up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert7 Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Just set one up and scored one against Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Is this guy really good enough to be playing in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 August, 2011 Share Posted 23 August, 2011 Just set one up and scored one against Norwich. By all accounts he was very good against Norwich (even if it was a second 11 which included Surman and Hoolahan)tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 Is this guy really good enough to be playing in the championship. I think he is - Talented lad with pace and an eye for goal. If Fat Sam is giving him the once over I think that tells us all we need to know about his CCC ( and above) potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Share Posted 24 August, 2011 I think he is - Talented lad with pace and an eye for goal. If Fat Sam is giving him the once over I think that tells us all we need to know about his CCC ( and above) potential Would be a very good signing i think, plus he p1ssed off Fergie junior by rejecting Posh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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